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Old 19.03.2020, 23:56
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Yes. Thank you. The point is, it is "lots", though we don't and can't know how big "lots" is, and we don't know how long the "lots" is going to last.

On a scientific level, of course there's a lot to be researched. But on a practical, everyday level, your post, Edwin, and yours here, MusicChick,

taken with Bowlie's, are three of the best I've read for days:


In other words, just do it.
  • Stay at home as much as you can.
  • If you're ill, don't go out at all, unless to a doctor who has confirmed by phone that you may.
  • If you do go out:
    • Try to cut down on the volume of items you carry with you, to minimise contact surfaces.
    • Go alone, or with someone with whom you live anway.
    • Keep 2m distance from everyone.
    • If you end up nearer and cannot move away, if possible turn your face away from the other people near you.
    • Wash your hands when you cross the threshold.
    • Leave shoes, jacket and bag near the door.
    • Sneeze and cough into the crook of your elbow.
    • Clean your phone.
    • Find something that makes you smile, because that's good for your immune system.

As far as the children go, they, too, should be kept safe (and keep others safe) in the same ways. That's all. It just is as it is.

I have difficulty understanding the rationale of people who try to push against, and who even blatantly contravene, the limits of the restrictions. Given that anyone can be infected without yet knowing it, it just isn't fair to go about risking infecting other people.
This is a great post, with good advice.

While I understand the need of this thread to let off opinions and steam, no-one is able to take any useful information from this thread anymore, and so have become bored and stopped reading it (except for this post).

Would like to cross-reference another thread, which is not here for general chit-chat, ideas, opinions etc., but hope that it will be kept purely for English advice in a country where the only on-going information is available in either German, French or Italian.

May I suggest that the following link is kept purely informational, concerning life in Switzerland during an unprecedented Global crisis, and limited only to actual life-saving information (about 3‘500 deaths in our Italian neighbours counted until today). Please take this seriously folks:

https://www.englishforum.ch/daily-li...elpline-5.html
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Old 20.03.2020, 00:04
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Yeah, it's not paranoia. I'm not just not use to feeling like this (so worried)... and of course, this situation in general (but who is?).
I had a panic attack earlier today while reading the news. I have to force myself to stay away from the news and updates for a while, sometimes. I feel like my nervous system is being overloaded.
You are so entitled to feel this way... I was telling somebody about the crazy civic training we did since the age of 6 and not understanding much, marching in gas masks twice a year, covered with gloves and raincoats, but in fact we did look like half of the people on TV today. Reading crazy concentration camps books as obligatory literature, there is a bit of a resistance to cray scenario. Except it is real, somebody forwarded me the Bill Gates prediction video on virus pandemics he did in 2015, it is nuts people knew. South Korea is doing so well because they were prepared, I think. One positive thing is, this is preparing us. We cannot possibly have the same situation of shortages and lack of synchronisation and being lost with hitech ways to manage this next time over.


We figured at home that when scary things get too much, we call home or people in our network, connect. School and studies, writing take one's mind off stuff, cooking. Or we put Sheldon on or You Have Been Framed. After laughing for a while it is better. Also, these attacks happen because we worry about our children, partners and parents and everyone, I think it is not because we would be mentally frail, it is because we are so invested and concerned. It goes away when you just see it as a big love and care for others.
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The daily numbers are in, we're at 3888 cases and 33 dead. Looks like BAG/OFSP are really having trouble coping with compiling the numbers but being up 800 cases in a day is nothing to sneeze at. We'll be in Italy territory by the end of next week if this continues. Tessin is predicted to be out of beds by early next week.
Perhaps we have no more such thing as the daily numbers. Switzerland has been updated at least 3 times today on worldometer.

Current standing for today is:

+ 1107 cases making a total of 4222 of which 43 deaths (10 today) and 15 reported as recovered.
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Old 20.03.2020, 00:46
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Some virus schadenfreude to keep us all amused

A neighbour of mine drove down to Spain in mid-January for a month's holiday; now he is stuck in a tiny holiday apartment with wife and dog for the foreseeable future, every time he tries to go outside police cars drive by and shout at them through loudspeakers.
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Strange coincidence; have not heard from my neighbour since he left and then he phoned this evening.

He seems to be doing OK, living on home cooked spaghetti and sitting on the balcony all day drinking beer and smoking cheap Spanish cigars.
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Yeah, it's not paranoia. I'm not just not use to feeling like this (so worried)... and of course, this situation in general (but who is?).
I had a panic attack earlier today while reading the news. I have to force myself to stay away from the news and updates for a while, sometimes. I feel like my nervous system is being overloaded.
You have to make your own rules according to how you feel about situations. If you don't want other people's kids in your house, make a point of it and stick to it. Explain it to your kid as well. If you don't want other people's kids coming over full stop then pull that through too. There is no "wrong" or "too much" about it. There are the general rules by the government and there are your personal rules. As you are not a canton, you are allowed to make your own rules, by law.

As to you panic attacks which of course are a personal thing. Try to calm them which ever way you usually do that. Do remember that panic is not a productive reaction. Which leads me back to the rules - if you make rules for yourself and your family, they may well keep you calmer.
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This is the Third World War with an enemy that does not take sides!
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Old 20.03.2020, 08:55
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Damn .. After wondering what we'd do with the kids for school work, the teachers have now sent work for each day along with loads of suggestions, activities, tasks etc .. daily contact etc etc .. Great.

Now I'm running out of printer paper.. First world problems.

But I'm so glad I bought the Epsom big tank printer, loads of ink left.
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Old 20.03.2020, 09:31
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fm swissinfo :

On Friday, March 20 at 12:30 people in Switzerland are showing their support for medical staff and healthcare workers by giving them a 60-second round of applause, from their balconies or gardens. If you take part, please send us a photo. email :english@swissinfo.ch


i'm not there so c'mon guys! it's free to do!






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Old 20.03.2020, 09:45
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Can’t the docs be printed to pdf and forwarded electronically?

Our printer doesn’t get much work these days.

If you have Mac you can easily sign pdfs using the free app ‘Preview’. Dead easy - just google/DDG it.

I’m sure you can do it with non-macs as well.
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Old 20.03.2020, 09:50
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Re: Coronavirus

My son who is doing his military service will be sent home on Sunday. He has been posted to a hospital in Uznach. He will come home from the barracks he is stationed to in Moudon to Zurich on public transport (fair enough).

His posting is half an hour's drive from our home and one hour and 10 minute journey by public transport, even assuming all connections are working. He has requested special permission to drive. It is a rule in the Army that men must use public transport when in uniform and he will be attending the hospital in uniform. He pointed out that it would be much safer to use his own car. The Army is considering the request ... ??

He has, however, been told he must NOT use public transport when he is not in uniform due to the increased risk of infection Those uniforms must be made of strong stuff! How totally ridiculous.
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I went to the shop (Lidl) last night, about 7ish, to get enough beer to last the weekend, and so I don't have to forage tomorrow.

Very few people, tons of stock, no toilet paper.
Because of last weekends panic buying, they were actually now over stocked in many items.



They also have started a big 'DeLuxe' promotion, similar to Christmas, so they have vintage cheddar and stilton.
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Old 20.03.2020, 10:02
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It is a rule in the Army that men must use public transport when in uniform and he will be attending the hospital in uniform. He pointed out that it would be much safer to use his own car. The Army is considering the request ... ??

He has, however, been told he must NOT use public transport when he is not in uniform due to the increased risk of infection Those uniforms must be made of strong stuff! How totally ridiculous.
Army intelligence. A contradiction in terms! Thanks for the laugh.
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My son who is doing his military service will be sent home on Sunday. He has been posted to a hospital in Uznach. He will come home from the barracks he is stationed to in Moudon to Zurich on public transport (fair enough).

His posting is half an hour's drive from our home and one hour and 10 minute journey by public transport, even assuming all connections are working. He has requested special permission to drive. It is a rule in the Army that men must use public transport when in uniform and he will be attending the hospital in uniform. He pointed out that it would be much safer to use his own car. The Army is considering the request ... ??

He has, however, been told he must NOT use public transport when he is not in uniform due to the increased risk of infection Those uniforms must be made of strong stuff! How totally ridiculous.
The fact that your son has had to put in a request to use a car may in this case also (in addition to the general rule pro public transport) have to do with the question of parking. Perhaps he could find a way to contribute to a solution (investiage the parking-lot, see if there are others in the area, where he could park and walk the last bit, etc., see if he could get a permit to park on the streets, etc.). I hope this works out for him!
https://www.englishforum.ch/3160166-post4039.html
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Old 20.03.2020, 10:30
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Just had a phone call from the Commune Administrator, who happens to be my next door neighbour. They have been instructed to phone every resident over 65 with a list of services, including collecting bin bags to take to Molok container, delivering shopping to the door from local shops, reminding us pharmacies will deliver and to give us a new emergency number reserved for over 65 in case symptoms develop.
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Old 20.03.2020, 10:41
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Re: Coronavirus

France have just tightened rules on exercise. No more cycling and jogging limited to a 2km radius from the house. They better start with such daft rules here!

https://www.thelocal.fr/20200319/fra...virus-lockdown
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Old 20.03.2020, 10:47
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For those who speak French, here are our bravest partisans

https://m.24heures.ch/articles/19263775
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Old 20.03.2020, 10:49
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Meanwhile idiot students in the US prefer to enjoy themselves on the beach rather than be sensible.

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us...te-coronavirus
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Re: Coronavirus

Went shopping on my bike at my local Coop near Hirzenbach this morning. Vegetable section looked good, but meat, fish, flour, pasta sections were empty, also the happy chicken eggs. Cheese was emptying out.



I just needed to do a normal shop... Ended up going to the freezer section for some fish, which was still stocked.



Hard not to feel nervous seeing the state of the shop, especially since we might need some flour soon.



On the plus side, there was hand disinfectant at the entrance, and the cashier was taking no prisoners - barking at people to disinfect, stand in line properly, take a number, etc. Really pleased with that, as the PA system announcements were barely audible. People attempting to maintain distance, was happy to see that.


Thanks to you all for the support and updates.
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Old 20.03.2020, 10:55
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Meanwhile idiot students in the US prefer to enjoy themselves on the beach rather than be sensible.

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us...te-coronavirus
I would love to see them quarantined (in prison cells) for two weeks on their return since they don't seem to give a fig about infecting their families.
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