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Old 20.03.2020, 16:29
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My French is non-existent... help please?
Still no complete lockdown like France..

If you go out, keep 2m distance.. No gathering over 5 people..

100chf fine to break the rules
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Old 20.03.2020, 16:30
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Has he got a bit of food stuck in his mouth ?
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Old 20.03.2020, 16:31
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Meanwhile idiot students in the US prefer to enjoy themselves on the beach rather than be sensible.

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us...te-coronavirus
yup. Only in America...


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/...205701825.html


Germany: Will authorities crack down on 'corona parties'?

...The scene was calmer than earlier this week, when a spell of unseasonably warm weather drew thousands of people to the park to cycle, play football or drink with friends - including large groups of dozens of teenagers free from shuttered schools, in what politicians and local media have branded "corona parties".
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Old 20.03.2020, 16:33
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Has he got a bit of food stuck in his mouth ?
nope, saliva....it is irritating like hell when you try to lipread!
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Old 20.03.2020, 16:42
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100chf fine to break the rules

That needs to be CHF1,000 to wake people up a bit.
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Old 20.03.2020, 16:51
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Do you have the feeling that Mother Nature as sent us all to our rooms to think about what we've done.
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Old 20.03.2020, 16:52
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That needs to be CHF1,000 to wake people up a bit.
Don't worry, once we reach 2'000 infections per day, they will implemented the lockdown like most other sensible countries.
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Old 20.03.2020, 16:53
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Do you have the feeling that Mother Nature as sent us all to our rooms to think about what we've done.

Actually rather feels like being sent to your room for something you didnīt do....


Adhering to this for days now, only popping out for some quick shopping and avoiding all further contact.
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Old 20.03.2020, 17:00
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Actually rather feels like being sent to your room for something you didnīt do....


Adhering to this for days now, only popping out for some quick shopping and avoiding all further contact.
I've been stuck inside for 3 weeks, we went for a little walk this morning at 7, nobody else around.
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Actually rather feels like being sent to your room for something you didnīt do....


Adhering to this for days now, only popping out for some quick shopping and avoiding all further contact.
It is in times like these that I am glad to have hermitic () tendencies!
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Old 20.03.2020, 17:16
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"The Swiss are escaping general lockdown. However, the Federal Council decided on Friday to tighten the measures: gatherings of more than five people are prohibited. These groups are liable to a fine. 32 billion more will be made available for the economy.

The ban applies to public spaces, i.e. public squares, promenades and parks. The social distance of at least two metres must be respected for groups of less than five people. The police can amend offenders.

The Federal Council urges the population to stay at home, especially vulnerable people. Only outings to go to work, do shopping, go to the doctor or help someone are allowed.

Workers better protected

The construction and industrial sectors are obliged to comply with the recommendations on hygiene and social remoteness. Employers must limit the number of people on construction sites. Companies that cannot implement the hygiene rules will have to close down.

Non-emergency operations are also prohibited in hospitals. Postal services will be allowed to deliver food and daily consumer goods ordered online seven days a week.

The purpose of these measures is to prevent hospitals from becoming overloaded with seriously ill patients. The Federal Council wants to avoid a more drastic step.

Civil defence

In addition, a civil defence contingent will be made available to the cantons to assist them in their fight against the coronavirus. In particular, they will be able to assist in setting up and running hospital reception facilities or public emergency numbers, as well as in caring for the elderly by distributing meals or providing transport.

The service is limited to the end of June 2020. The cantons remain responsible for deciding on concrete mandates, for calling in persons under operational obligation and for the execution of interventions.

The Confederation will compensate the cantons with a lump sum of CHF 27.50 per day of service. The total cost of the operation should therefore not exceed CHF 23.4 million."

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Don't worry, once we reach 2'000 infections per day, they will implemented the lockdown like most other sensible countries.
Now that Germany did the lockdown, Switzerland will follow. -Italy seems not to be a valid case of study-.

'Recommendations', 'Flexibility', '100CHF fine', 'Kantonal measures'... what a joke. 'To wait and see if society follows'

Why couldn't they considered implementing testing for everyone (not just the severe cases that appear and progress exponentially, as reported since months in China or Italy 2 weeks ago). Contain and isolate those individuals with the infection town by town, quartier by quartier... To test will help identify those asymptomatic persons that come to clean the boiler or work for Spitex... I hope this thing can be put into control for enough time to see vaccines coming up... BUT this case in Italy quoted earlier on this thread should be taken and weighted in when the society can get back and see how 'slow' or manipulative were the people in charge of handling this situation.

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...researchers at the University of Padua and the Red Cross, tested all residents of Vō, a town of 3,000 inhabitants near Venice – including those who did not have symptoms. This allowed us to quarantine people before they showed signs of infection and stop the further spread of coronavirus. In this way, we eradicated coronavirus in under 14 days.
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Old 20.03.2020, 17:31
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Why couldn't they considered implementing testing for everyone (not just the severe cases that appear and progress exponentially, as reported since months in China or Italy 2 weeks ago). Contain and isolate those individuals with the infection town by town, quartier by quartier... To test will help identify those asymptomatic persons that come to clean the boiler or work for Spitex...

Being healthy now does not mean you still will be healthy (free of the virus) the next day? So testing everyone would have to be done on a very regular basis.
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Being healthy now does not mean you still will be healthy (free of the virus) the next day? So testing everyone would have to be done on a very regular basis.
Of course, haven't you seen how they manage in China.. everywhere at almost every time there's a temperature control... there are thermal cameras and oxygen meters and thermometers. Are you in Switzerland?
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Why couldn't they considered implementing testing for everyone
Because we lack the manpower and test-kits to do so.

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Old 20.03.2020, 17:39
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Of course, haven't you seen how they manage in China.. everywhere at almost every time there's a temperature control... there are thermal cameras and oxygen meters and thermometers. Are you in Switzerland?

Temperature does not mean much. A lot of people have almost no symptoms and still can spread the virus. That is what I meant
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Old 20.03.2020, 17:42
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Temperature does not mean much. A lot of people have almost no symptoms and still can spread the virus. That is what I meant
When a low-cost, reliable and readily-available antibody test is available, the population can be tested and those who have had the virus in a mild, or asymptomatic manner, can get back to work or help in some other way.
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When a low-cost, reliable and readily-available antibody test is available, the population can be tested and those who have had the virus in a mild, or asymptomatic manner, can get back to work or help in some other way.

Sincerely hope that is available soon!
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Again. Oxygen meter, thermometer and thermal camera at the entrance to schools, universities, working place... In China if you want to eat at a restaurant they check your temperature and you show your mobile to trace the location where you are. This done by the cashier what manpower are you asking for? Switzerland the society of the überwacht has the complete will for such task (hence manpower) for at least keeping people with first symptoms at bay. That's testing.
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Because we lack the manpower and test-kits to do so.

That should be a good enough answer.
Well to be honest, manpower isn't much of an issue, as I've seen meter mollies cruising the streets of ZH. Plus we've all read about the incident, where a nurse left a note on her car, that she couldn't find parking and she still got ticketed. Those public servants, could easily be redistributed with a thermometer, etc.
In my understanding, it is momentarily not possible to obtain more test-kits, as the pharma industry is located in Timbuktu and the fine leaders of Switzerland did not manage to establish a successful relationship with the tribal heads of the Roche and Novartis tribe.
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