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What is ED, please, in this context?
Emergency Department


also ER (Emergency Room) and/ A&E (Accident and Emergency?)
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Old 21.03.2020, 20:40
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Unfortunately, you're a month late, see post #557
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Right! I just came back from 6 week stay in Cuba, No hype there . They have anti virus syrup called RUM
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Old 21.03.2020, 20:48
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Right! They have anti virus syrup called RUM
Well, if that works, Im good. Got a bottle from a friend so can try that now
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Old 21.03.2020, 20:53
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Re: Coronavirus

Just found this update:

Stay at home!
Stay at home now.
Do not leave your home anymore.
You should only leave your home:

If you need to buy food.
If you need to go to the doctor.
If you need to go to the chemist.
If you need to help someone.
If you cannot work from home
and have to go to work.
Top of page
Never more than 5 people!
A new ban:
Never be with more than 5 people.
This applies in public places.
For example:

In a square
On paths
In a park
All people must keep their distance from other people.
More than 2 metres is best.
This also applies if there are only 2 people.

Everyone must follow this rule.
Otherwise you have to pay a fine.
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Old 21.03.2020, 20:56
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Re: Coronavirus

Thought that was communicated yesterday already?
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Old 21.03.2020, 21:03
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Re: Coronavirus

A couple of distillers here, who are also qualified 'droguistes' are making and selling hand sanitizer and selling at reasonable prices.
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Old 21.03.2020, 21:38
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Flights will be stopped for one of two reasons.

1. One or two of the governments tell the airlines to.

This is unlikely, because the restrictions already in place are sufficient.

2. Demand falls off meaning the airlines lose money on every rotation.

This much more likely, but difficult to estimate when. You will first see further reductions in frequency and smaller airports in the UK will be affected first.

If you need to get there, I advise you do so as soon as possible.

Swiss are only serving LHR from Monday night (23rd). No more City, no more Manchester. See notice below.



Current status is they will keep that open until 19th April. But as mentioned by Bowlie, that is subject to change because: reasons. You need to check their site each day for updates. https://www.swiss.com/ch/en/various/breaking-news



I normally commute here each week, but am preparing to go back this coming Thursday. Luckily, I can mostly work from anywhere, so my employer allows me to stay home in UK until this subsides.



SWISS to reduce flight operations to a minimum from 23 March

In view of the numerous new travel restrictions both in Europe and farther afield, and of economic considerations, SWISS is compelled to limit its flight operations to a minimum from early next week. From Monday, 23 March to Sunday, 19 April, the only long-haul destination served by SWISS will be Newark (EWR) and, from Zurich, the eight following European cities: London (LHR), Amsterdam, Berlin, Hamburg, Brussels, Dublin, Lisbon and Stockholm. For the time being, flights from Geneva to London (LHR), Athens, Lisbon and Porto will continue. Provisionally, there will be no further long-haul services from Geneva.



Stay safe, everyone.


Regards




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Old 21.03.2020, 21:50
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Re: Coronavirus

The only long haul destination Swiss has ever served out of Geneva was JFK airport in New York. The so-called UN express.

Not a surprise that they have abandoned the suisse romande, yet again.
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Re: How is Switzerland doing - Covid-19

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One of the regular members here who lives in Ticino would have liked to see the border with Italy closed a hell of a lot sooner, and I'm inclined to agree with him. Switzerland waited until all the neighbouring countries closed there borders with Switzerland before closing theirs, which is a little peculiar to me.
Agreed. I mentioned earlier in this thread that I was in Malaysia and Singapore at the end of January and they took it far more seriously over there and I was shocked that until last week at least, that there are no checks at the Zurich airport especially early February when there were still 2 flights a day arriving from China. Clearly even when Switzerland had less than 100 cases, the per capita number was already one of the highest in the world and they still did nothing.

One thing to learn from Malaysia - seems that they thought everything was under control for a while and they took their eye off the ball, and now they are in big trouble too. So this won't be over so soon.
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Old 21.03.2020, 22:14
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Re: Coronavirus

Having lived in Singapore for 10 plus years, I can tell you Malaysia is no Singapore. In fact, the lawlessness that runs amok in that country is astounding!

Most Singaporeans would find your comparison offensive and they are correct given my experience.

Singapore has taken very strict measures to contain this virus and frankly, one cannot believe whatever Malaysia publishes. Have you read or looked into the 1MBD scandal? Malaysia is not to be trusted regarding their reporting given their governance or lack thereof. What a shame for the people living there in my view...
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Re: Coronavirus

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Just found this update:

Stay at home!
Stay at home now.
Do not leave your home anymore.
You should only leave your home:

If you need to buy food.
If you need to go to the doctor.
If you need to go to the chemist.
If you need to help someone.
If you cannot work from home
and have to go to work.
Top of page
Never more than 5 people!
A new ban:
Never be with more than 5 people.
This applies in public places.
For example:

In a square
On paths
In a park
All people must keep their distance from other people.
More than 2 metres is best.
This also applies if there are only 2 people.

Everyone must follow this rule.
Otherwise you have to pay a fine.
So this means I can no longer go our for a walk or cycle alone to get some fresh air and exercise? Are you sure? Same rules in all cantons now?
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Old 21.03.2020, 22:33
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What is ED, please, in this context?
E.D. is emergency department

Two of the alarming cases I mentioned were initially seen without symptoms (or comorbidities) but screened because they were in proximity to someone positive and degenerated savagely, in a way that seems to have rattled staff even if they were ultimately transferred to CHUV

One detail was particularly disturbing but I won't comment on it until more info is obtained to clarify & contextualize. Best advice remains to self quarantine & avoid as much external contact as possible
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Old 21.03.2020, 22:33
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So this means I can no longer go our for a walk or cycle alone to get some fresh air and exercise? Are you sure? Same rules in all cantons now?
You still can. Just not in groups of more than 5, and keep the distance!
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You still can. Just not in groups of more than 5, and keep the distance!
But can we? I am really not clear on this. I read we must only go out if absolutely necessary. That means

- if you have to purchase groceries
- if you have to go to the doctors or the chemist
- if you have to help someone
- if you are unable to work from home and you have to go to work

I would love to go out for a walk but interpret the latest dictat as meaning that I really shouldn't although it doesn't state that I mustn't.

Am I missing something?
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Old 21.03.2020, 22:47
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Sometimes, distance is not even the problem for some families. A friend is a frontalier nurse here in Switzerland, and her husband is a house husband, and looks after the kids with his parents- he has severe health problems that put him at risk. She is therefore now staying on Swiss side in digs for the duration, whilst her husband looks after the kids on his own, as grandparents also at risk. No idea how long that will be for. Tough for some.

So if we have to be more careful and make some minor sacrifices- then so be it. If you can go for a walk well away from public spaces, and where you can keep away from everyone- then surely that is fine.
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You still can. Just not in groups of more than 5, and keep the distance!
Thanks, also just found the useful link on #4497 from this morning - hard to keep up with the volume of posts
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Old 21.03.2020, 22:57
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Singapore has taken very strict measures to contain this virus and frankly, one cannot believe whatever Malaysia publishes. Have you read or looked into the 1MBD scandal?
Oh no, don't tell me that those internet movie database ratings were skewed by Malaysia? I've relied on that website for years to choose movies to help me cope with my dyslexia.
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Old 21.03.2020, 23:00
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Sometimes, distance is not even the problem for some families. A friend is a frontalier nurse here in Switzerland, and her husband is a house husband, and looks after the kids with his parents- he has severe health problems that put him at risk. She is therefore now staying on Swiss side in digs for the duration, whilst her husband looks after the kids on his own, as grandparents also at risk. No idea how long that will be for. Tough for some.

So if we have to be more careful and make some minor sacrifices- then so be it. If you can go for a walk well away from public spaces, and where you can keep away from everyone- then surely that is fine.
I think keeping a distance is the caveat here. When I walk my dog, if I see someone approaching I cross over to other side of the road. I do this repeatedly during walks with my dog. I try to avoid everyone if possible and I walk in the forest now and avoid the city/town. But even in the forest, I will move away as far as possible for others passing. I am an optimist by nature but even I am worried by the current situation. We all need to discipline ourselves (tough for me by the way as I am very active by nature) and do as much as we can to contain things.

That said, I may lose my mind come April 19th
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Old 21.03.2020, 23:05
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Re: Coronavirus

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Sometimes, distance is not even the problem for some families. A friend is a frontalier nurse here in Switzerland, and her husband is a house husband, and looks after the kids with his parents- he has severe health problems that put him at risk. She is therefore now staying on Swiss side in digs for the duration, whilst her husband looks after the kids on his own, as grandparents also at risk. No idea how long that will be for. Tough for some.

So if we have to be more careful and make some minor sacrifices- then so be it. If you can go for a walk well away from public spaces, and where you can keep away from everyone- then surely that is fine.
A lot of frontline doctors n nurses in hk now also staying in hotels to avoid putting their family at risk, some of them havn't seen their kids for months now. They also can't promise when they can come home. We have to do our best to make it worth it.
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Re: Coronavirus

Here's the official version as linked by NotAllThere:
https://www.englishforum.ch/3161366-post4497.html

Here's Catherinesarah's very visually legible list:
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Just found this update:

Stay at home!
Stay at home now.
Do not leave your home anymore.
You should only leave your home:

If you need to buy food.
If you need to go to the doctor.
If you need to go to the chemist.
If you need to help someone.
If you cannot work from home
and have to go to work.

Top of page
Never more than 5 people!

A new ban:
Never be with more than 5 people.
This applies in public places.

For example:
In a square
On paths
In a park
All people must keep their distance from other people.
More than 2 metres is best.
This also applies if there are only 2 people.

Everyone must follow this rule.
Otherwise you have to pay a fine.
Theoslimm asks if going for a walk or a cycle is still permitted.
Roegner thinks it is allowed, as long as no more than 5 people, each 2m apart, meet up.
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But can we? I am really not clear on this. I read we must only go out if absolutely necessary. That means

- if you have to purchase groceries
- if you have to go to the doctors or the chemist
- if you have to help someone
- if you are unable to work from home and you have to go to work

I would love to go out for a walk but interpret the latest dictat as meaning that I really shouldn't although it doesn't state that I mustn't.

Am I missing something?
I also understood it as that: no walks, no cycling, no private visits to friends' homes to socialise. Just Stay At Home. Exceptions only those specified on the list.

I'd be interested to know if anyone has a source specifying the exact rule, for those who want/need one. For myself, it's common sense, common respect because potentially preventative to others and to self, to Just Stay At Home. Just Stay At Home. Just Stay At Home.

However, I can see that while a human adult and teenager can be called upon to have that discipline, this much be much more difficult to implement for smaller children and for dogs.
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