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Old 27.03.2020, 11:38
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You would probably get all those things cheaper online.
For sure .. but a coffee machine needs to be same day

Digitec has slowed down to maybe 5 days delivery now, they cancelled my order for paper saying no delivery date available.

Plus I actually feel for my post lady, she's delivering more than a busy Christmas period now
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Old 27.03.2020, 11:41
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Sociologists must be having a field day, my guess is its to do with differing attitudes to the rules.
Totally. Though I fear the diversity departments will not permit studies that link disease spread to cultural habits.

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You think? Delivery time end of july?

Eta - John was faster.
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Old 27.03.2020, 11:54
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....At least we won't drown in shit
Some days on EF, I'm not so sure
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Old 27.03.2020, 12:13
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According to this gentleman, this is actually the case within Switzerland!

https://twitter.com/TrevorSutcliffe/...98835036979200
Contagions started 1 or 2 weeks before in TI compared to the rest of Switzerland. Since the virus does not kill people overnight, there's a delay between contagion, detection and death. Since the event has not ended, too soon to tell this is the equilibrium.

Also, at the time the problem started in TI, tests were even scarcer than today. Less tests implies only the most sick or dead were tested yielding higher mortality.

But, this is just for entertainment purposes, no investment advice, do your own research, bla, bla, bla...



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Seems strange to me, according to Wikipedia, that from one Italian returning back home from China all of Italy and neighboring countries got infected in a matter of weeks. Could it not be that the virus was lingering around months before hand in a dormant state?
I doubt it was from one Italian - a better clue of how the virus spread so quickly ( and why Europe has become
so badly affected ) is to simply look at a map of the world of airline passenger transport route clusters where it will
come as no surprise that western european countries remain the hub in the wheel of passenger airline
traffic coming in from all 5 continents of the world.
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Old 27.03.2020, 12:39
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This past week we have been able to sell many used items simply because people do not want to or cannot wait for delivery, and items can be picked up outside our house keeping out of close contact.

We are happy to post items because we don't need to go to the post office - we have pick up in our village.

Stores, like Landi, which are open for customers to buy food and pet food, but cannot sell all items in the store, allow you to order on line and pick up at the store.
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Old 27.03.2020, 13:20
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Boris Johnson tests positive for COVID-19

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He looks knackered.. I wish him a speedy recovery.
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Old 27.03.2020, 13:23
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Totally. Though I fear the diversity departments will not permit studies that link disease spread to cultural habits.
What is a diversity department? At any rate, I cannot imagine this would not be studied. It‘s a really interesting and important question.
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He looks knackered.. I wish him a speedy recovery.
hmmmmmmmm do you actually believe this- seems like a great excuse to me. ?!?! Two minutes 11 of continuous speaking, 'projecting' for the camera and not a sign or respiratory discomfort or coughing. I call BS.
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Old 27.03.2020, 13:32
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This man truly is inconsistent. Shouldn't he meet and greet now and get it over with?


Police on bike just past here. Haven't seen any in 12 years in our street.
Maybe he got lost as there's no-one on the road to ask directions.
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Old 27.03.2020, 13:41
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hmmmmmmmm do you actually believe this- seems like a great excuse to me. ?!?! Two minutes 11 of continuous speaking, 'projecting' for the camera and not a sign or respiratory discomfort or coughing. I call BS.
That's leadership:
Meet Prince Charles intentionally.
Get the virus.
Lie in bed in your suit and tie for a couple of days.
Show that it's a silly flu.
Get it over with.

(and work on a plan B that you can communicate from intensive care)
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Old 27.03.2020, 13:49
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Re: Coronavirus

Where were any of Boris Johnson's symptoms.
I think he's trying to pull a fast one on the British people.
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Old 27.03.2020, 13:50
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Herd immunity going great over there?
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Old 27.03.2020, 13:53
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Re: Coronavirus

As of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious diseases (HCID) in the UK.

The 4 nations public health HCID group made an interim recommendation in January 2020 to classify COVID-19 as an HCID. This was based on consideration of the UK HCID criteria about the virus and the disease with information available during the early stages of the outbreak. Now that more is known about COVID-19, the public health bodies in the UK have reviewed the most up to date information about COVID-19 against the UK HCID criteria. They have determined that several features have now changed; in particular, more information is available about mortality rates (low overall), and there is now greater clinical awareness and a specific and sensitive laboratory test, the availability of which continues to increase.

The Advisory Committee on Dangerous Pathogens (ACDP) is also of the opinion that COVID-19 should no longer be classified as an HCID.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-con...us-of-covid-19
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Old 27.03.2020, 14:01
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As of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious diseases (HCID) in the UK.

The 4 nations public health HCID group made an interim recommendation in January 2020 to classify COVID-19 as an HCID. This was based on consideration of the UK HCID criteria about the virus and the disease with information available during the early stages of the outbreak. Now that more is known about COVID-19, the public health bodies in the UK have reviewed the most up to date information about COVID-19 against the UK HCID criteria. They have determined that several features have now changed; in particular, more information is available about mortality rates (low overall), and there is now greater clinical awareness and a specific and sensitive laboratory test, the availability of which continues to increase.

The Advisory Committee on Dangerous Pathogens (ACDP) is also of the opinion that COVID-19 should no longer be classified as an HCID.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-con...us-of-covid-19
Problem solved! Everyone take a flight to the UK. The virus is no longer a high consequence infectious disease over there, grass is literally greener!
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Our Nespresso machine broke on Tuesday.. I went to my local COOP and that area was all taped off..

The guy nearby stocking the shelves agreed that it was a necessity so I should go ahead and help myself behind the taped off area.. Same for printer paper and a stapler.

I think these are guidelines .. not to be abused, common sense..
That's what I like about Switzerland - the authorities usually will consider your individual circumstances.
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Old 27.03.2020, 14:06
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As of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious diseases (HCID) in the UK.

The 4 nations public health HCID group made an interim recommendation in January 2020 to classify COVID-19 as an HCID. This was based on consideration of the UK HCID criteria about the virus and the disease with information available during the early stages of the outbreak. Now that more is known about COVID-19, the public health bodies in the UK have reviewed the most up to date information about COVID-19 against the UK HCID criteria. They have determined that several features have now changed; in particular, more information is available about mortality rates (low overall), and there is now greater clinical awareness and a specific and sensitive laboratory test, the availability of which continues to increase.

The Advisory Committee on Dangerous Pathogens (ACDP) is also of the opinion that COVID-19 should no longer be classified as an HCID.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-con...us-of-covid-19
No surprise there. Look at that list: Ebola, H5N1, the plague ... all things with mortality rates > 40 % or so.
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No surprise there. Look at that list: Ebola, H5N1, the plague ... all things with mortality rates > 40 % or so.
Lassa-virus is also on the list and has about 1%
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Old 27.03.2020, 14:16
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Re: Coronavirus

The first german patient fully recovered and says Corona symptoms and recovery were "Not as bad as the flu"

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Against the background that the federal government is now expecting a corona epidemic, the former patient warns of panic and advises calmness: "It is of course a new virus, but it is not as bad as the flu."
https://www.br.de/nachrichten/bayern...rlebte,Rrm4Ul8
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Old 27.03.2020, 14:20
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It also kills 15 to 20 % of people hospitalized with it and up to 50% during epidemics, so there's that too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lassa_fever#Prognosis

But anyway, that has nothing to do with the discussion here.
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