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Old 29.03.2020, 19:49
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How can some coutries impose fines for people not wearing a proper face mask for being outside
to getting or doing their necessaries, eg food, prescription, walking the dog, etc where the same
countries ( and no doubt many others ) are suffering a nationwide shortage of proper face masks ?

I've heard from many friends and relations in Spain - they cannot get proper face masks, anywhere for love or money after the lockdown !!
It is just a cunning way to keep people indoors when masks are not available; very simple for the police to check if they are wearing masks.
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Old 29.03.2020, 19:50
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After Germany, France has lifted restrictions on the delivery of hygienic face masks to Switzerland. Some two million masks are needed each day, according to the Federal Office for Public Health.
The French embassy to Switzerland made the announcementexternal link on Saturday, paving the way for two shipments of FFP2 hygienic masks to go ahead from France to Switzerland.
French authorities had initially taken precautionary measures to avoid speculation concerning sensitive products, the embassy wrote in a statement.
However, the measures were not meant to block the export of such equipment to neighbouring countries also fighting the virus. “Solidarity is a permanent combat,” it said, adding that France and Switzerland are cooperating on various fronts to mitigate the effects of Covid-19.
From Swissinfo.
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Old 29.03.2020, 19:51
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Maybe stop asking for bleedin' obvious answers if you don't like them.
Saw not one single question in CodPeace's post no. 5619.

Sometimes less is more.
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Old 29.03.2020, 20:08
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Do you know anybody who has or had Corona virus ( including yourself ) ?
None.

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Is anyone else starting to get a bit paranoid with the whole thing such as example:

Hearing some neighbor sneezing on hallway and then forgetting it and taking trash out myself 10min after that - possible corona infection

Picking up some parcels from the post and checking the confirmation from phone and then forgetting to disinfect the phone after coming home and using it while eating a sandwich - possible corona infection

Buying chewing-gum from kiosk while not wearing a mask and suddenly noticing how can smell the sales person perfume even thou there is 2m distance - possible corona infection

For f sake starting to get tired of this
No.
My neighbours might though, I cough and - mainly - sneeze for months now, suffering from hey-fever.

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I wonder if that was in exchange of Switzerland taking in French patients?
If so I'm not impressed. Well, actually, I'm not impressed at all.

According to the German news on tv about two days ago, Mrs. Von der Leyen said 'some countries only thought of themselves but now EU is back'. HA! By the time I heard that on the news, I only knew about Germany holding back our goods. "Some countries", my ass.
And it was not goods bought there, it was only supposed to pass through. It.was.not.their's.and.never.was.
That the French did it too I only learnt today. Kind of wish I hadn't. It's the only thing that actually made me angry in months.
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Old 29.03.2020, 20:11
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According to the German news on tv about two days ago, Mrs. Von der Leyen said 'some countries only thought of themselves but now EU is back'. HA! By the time I heard that on the news, I only knew about Germany holding back our goods. "Some countries", my ass.
And it was not goods bought there, it was only supposed to pass through. It.was.not.their's.and.never.was.
That the French did it too I only learnt today. Kind of wish I hadn't. It's the only thing that actually made me angry in months.
That. Made me very angry
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That. Made me very angry
Yes.

But to be fair, government contacted them, we explained that the goods would fall in good hands and they cleared them again. Prefer such above letting that stuff fall into the black market.
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Old 29.03.2020, 21:07
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But to be fair, government contacted them, we explained that the goods would fall in good hands and they cleared them again. Prefer such above letting that stuff fall into the black market.
Actually it is none of their B business, goods were in transit and they took their jolly time to do that. You do not call in the ambassador just because a container is stuck at customs for one day.
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Old 29.03.2020, 21:21
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Do you know anybody who has or had Corona virus ( including yourself ) ?
Yes. Three people. As it looks now, one of those may die from it.
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Old 29.03.2020, 21:29
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Yes. Three people. As it looks now, one of those may die from it.
My sister-in-law's mum had a co-worker in the same open plan office die of it last week. That was in Seattle.
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Re: Coronavirus

CH failed miserably!

A study by the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine estimates the number of cases discovered. South Korea has found an estimated 59 to 100%, Switzerland only 27 to 52%

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Less testing? Mostly younger people in the denser city areas vs. other countries where it's more mixed through? A mix of both? If you don't feel sick, you simply don't get tested.. and for most young people, the virus doesn't really show that strongly..
Yes, it's well known that the Swedish socialist government very early on decided to limit testing. High numbers of Corona infected people during their Herd immunity strategy will not look good on paper....

To answer your question to why Swedes are still out in the street. Well the government and the so called Swedish experts (a guy in the ranks of Iraq's "Bagdad-bob") have encouraged people to go out and enjoy the sun. The Swedish people are in general very lazy and do not search for information themselves, but they generally swallow anything the government and media say.
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Old 29.03.2020, 21:53
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Re: Coronavirus

In the peak of Corona virus in China, COV-19 was 49th cause of death.

Car crashes killed many, many more

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Old 29.03.2020, 22:10
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I just read about the Hong Kong flu pandemic in 1968-1969. Never heard about it before but seems very familiar to the corona virus.
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In the peak of Corona virus in China, COV-19 was 49th cause of death.

Car crashes killed many, many more


how about to compare the hospitalization & death rates?
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Old 29.03.2020, 22:20
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But to be fair, government contacted them, we explained that the goods would fall in good hands and they cleared them again. Prefer such above letting that stuff fall into the black market.

WTF!
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Old 29.03.2020, 22:27
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WTF!
We as in Switzerland. I'm missing the joke or WTF part in such, care to explain?

PS: The post is actually exactly how it happened. And Germans declared they wanted to be certain the goods would not fall in the wrong hands.

Dunno what is so funny about that, might be a cultural thingy..
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Old 29.03.2020, 23:21
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We as in Switzerland. I'm missing the joke or WTF part in such, care to explain?

PS: The post is actually exactly how it happened. And Germans declared they wanted to be certain the goods would not fall in the wrong hands.

Dunno what is so funny about that, might be a cultural thingy..
That's actually not how it happened. I posted on this particular incident earlier. What had happened was that Germany implemented a law which allowed the government to seize goods for domestic use, in order to ensure adequate stock of aforementioned goods. In the particular incident we're talking about 1 container of masks which at the time was located in a bonded warehouse in Hamburg. The other containers were located on trucks which were prevented from leaving Germany. The Swiss person in charge called his German counterpart and they had a chat, which subsequently didn't lead to fruition.
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Old 29.03.2020, 23:36
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We can still live in hope it's mild or even symptomless.
Indeed. But I read somewhere that mild or no symptoms might mean that the patient develops no immunity and can get reinfected and shed the virus again.

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I wonder if it's destiny is to be another childhood infection, like chickenpox.
Childhood infections are still a serious pain in the proverbial for grown ups, like chickenpox or mono.
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Old 29.03.2020, 23:37
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Indeed. But I read somewhere that mild or no symotoms might mean that the patient develops no immunity and can get reinfected and shed the virus again.
Do you have a reference? I thought that the jury was still out on immunity and possible reinfection.
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That's actually not how it happened. I posted on this particular incident earlier. What had happened was that Germany implemented a law which allowed the government to seize goods for domestic use, in order to ensure adequate stock of aforementioned goods. In the particular incident we're talking about 1 container of masks which at the time was located in a bonded warehouse in Hamburg. The other containers were located on trucks which were prevented from leaving Germany. The Swiss person in charge called his German counterpart and they had a chat, which subsequently didn't lead to fruition.
The containers were not stopped due to Germany taking a law to seize goods, but they were stopped by border patrol due to a new ruling that prevented export of medical supply's. After some days of talking the goods were cleared and no matter what the reason behind the curtain was did Germany declare that they wanted to be certain goods would not fall in wrong hands like the black market.

Ps, as for you posting about this earlier, so did I what would that change?
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