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Was this from yesterdays April fools? Link starts asking for subscription so I couldn't find a date.

I'm just thinking something along the lines of "We have created a device which will allow the antivirals to be applied directly to the affected areas, they come in packs of 20 and are individually wrapped in a paper packaging. Place the orange coloured end of one dispensers in your lips. Light the white couloured end with an open flame whilst breathing in. Inhale the medication in to your lungs in puffs or drags. It's recommended against sharing individual dispensers, although we recommend sharing unused dispensers with your friends."
No, it is not a joke. It is being reported in all the UK papers.

" Lucky Strike and Benson & Hedges maker British American Tobacco (BAT) has become the latest firm to offer hope of a Covid-19 vaccine after revealing a breakthrough with its tobacco plant technology.

The UK-headquartered group said its US-based biotech business has been working on a potential vaccine for Covid-19, which it believes could offer up to three million doses a week from June.

BAT said the vaccine is now in pre-clinical testing and has the potential to offer a safer and faster way to develop vaccines than traditional methods.

It is being developed by its US firm Kentucky BioProcessing (KBP) using tobacco plant technology.

BAT said if successful and with the “right partners and support from government agencies”, it could manufacture between one million and three million doses a week, though it will need to get through rigorous testing before being approved for use in humans.

The group is currently in talks with the US Food and Drug Administration and the UK Department of Health and Social Care with hopes to partner with government agencies to bring the vaccine to clinical studies."

Dr David O’Reilly, director of scientific research at BAT, said: “Vaccine development is challenging and complex work, but we believe we have made a significant breakthrough with our tobacco plant technology platform and stand ready to work with governments and all stakeholders to help win the war against Covid-19.

“We fully align with the United Nations plea, for a whole-of-society approach to combat global problems.

The firm said KBP – bought by its US subsidiary Reynolds American Inc in 2014 – has been looking at alternative uses of tobacco plants for some time, including plant-based vaccines.

It was one of the few firms that helped develop an effective treatment for Ebola in 2014 and has recently been working with the US government on seasonal influenza vaccines.

It added that KBP would be developing the coronavirus vaccine on a not-for-profit basis.

Tobacco plant technology is thought to have advantages over traditional development methods as it can produce initial vaccines in the plants in just six weeks, instead of months.

It is also possibly safer because tobacco plants cannot host so-called pathogens that cause human disease.

And they have the potential to deliver an effective immune response in a single dose, according to BAT.

“We are committed to contributing to the global effort to halt the spread of Covid-19 using this technology,” added Dr O’Reilly.

Analysts at Jefferies said the announcement by BAT was “somewhat surprising”, but it highlights the scientific might of tobacco giants."

BAT is a huge blue chip company with enormous resources. It was very well run when I worked there and has very good research facilities, albeit not usually used in this way. There is an irony to it of course, but suggests some progress is being made.
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Old 02.04.2020, 11:42
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I can see the ad campaign.

Coronavirus -started by a bat, stopped by BAT.
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Old 02.04.2020, 11:43
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Always depends on how the data is presented, what is included, what isn't and how they got the numbers they do have. My wife was telling me that the in terms of testing alone, they are not universally testing symptomatic patients who fit the COVID profile and instead telling them to self quarantine - effectively to wait until they require acute care by returning to the hospital. The priority for testing is among healthcare workers and civil servants so even if the testing were indeed among the highest per capita, the positive case tally only gives a portion of the entire picture

At least in that regard, the case fatality rates from corona positive fails to take into account all of those who are potentially resolving on their own at home and never end up getting tested
This.

So, looks like faxing numbers is just a cosmetic thing to worry about.
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Switzerland has double the case fatality rate compared to Sweden.
No, the crude case fatality rate in Switzerland is 2.7%, Sweden is approaching 5%. But again looking at such rudimentary analysis of available data is not helpful at this point in time.
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Old 02.04.2020, 11:45
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Is this a serious or a rhetorical question?

Among the three countries, Sweden is the country with the lowest number of tests (per capita) and the highest case fatality rate.

I do hope that Sweden's approach will work out for them - or that they will change their strategy as soon as they realize that it won't work, but just looking at crude numbers doesn't really help at this point in time.
Looks like they have already changed their strategy;
Everyone in Sweden is urged to stay at home if they are at all sick (even a mild cough or sore throat), practice social distancing, avoid non-essential travel within the country, work from home if possible, and avoid non-essential visits to elderly people or hospitals.

Restaurants, bars, cafés and nightclubs have been told to offer seated table service only; public events of over 50 people have been banned; and there is a nationwide ban on visits to elderly care homes.

Almedalen, Sweden's annual political festival, has been cancelled.

Sweden has outlined a series of binding recommendations for organisations and individuals to help protect vulnerable groups from the coronavirus. The guidelines are not optional, in the sense that Sweden's law on the prevention of the spread of infectious diseases obligates the public to help halt the spread of infection.

The coronavirus crisis will last for months, not weeks, Prime Minister Stefan Löfven told Swedish TV.

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Switzerland has double the case fatality rate compared to Sweden.

Switzerland is in lock down for 3 weeks, Sweden isn't
But isn't it also the case that the virus hit Switzerland (from Italy to TI, but also from elsewhere because ZH and GE are much bigger international travel hubs than Sweden) a lot earlier than it has hit Sweden?
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I did hear that they changed some of their rules, wasn't sure to what extent. Thanks for sharing. I guess compared to most of Europe those rules are still not as tight, in particular with respect to open cafes/restaurants (and shops?). Again, I hope it works out for them - but just looking at relatively "low" confirmed cases at the moment, isn't proof for the strategy to work but most likely related to other factors.
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Old 02.04.2020, 11:51
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But isn't it also the case that the virus hit Switzerland (from Italy to TI, but also from elsewhere because ZH and GE are much bigger international travel hubs than Sweden) a lot earlier than it has hit Sweden?
Indeed. Sweden cases started to increase ~1 month later than Italy. Spring is arriving to Russia too https://www.ft.com/coronavirus-latest



I work for a Swedish company. I'm sure I'll get later an email about the situation over there.
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Old 02.04.2020, 12:12
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That's interesting. Thanks.
But also Corona is only about 4 months in yet.

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omatstat shared a good insight yesterday, reading and sharing stats gives solace to some of us.

I wouldn't go so hard on people expressing contrarian views, even if they're not exactly well informed. Some people need to deny everything in order to keep living a normal life, otherwise their anxiety explodes. In some way, the deniers are the most fragile because they can't look at a problem without panicking. Their safety relies on minimizing problems.

The key to this riddle is acknowledging deniers are scared too and minimizing any problem is their way to deal with them. Just, don't let yourself be affected by the way others deal with their own fears.

V__: statistics is not the way to approach terrorism. They're OK for quality control in manufacturing, research experiments and pricing insurance, but not the most useful tool to deal with people's worries. Empathy works better. As long as V__ is not taking decisions that impact the community, everything's fine.
People trying to keep things in perspective are not deniers. Although of course for the others it seems soothing to call them that.

I wouldn't dare to judge V__, I don't know the bloke. I react to posts and some of his are reasonable.

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Switzerland has double the case fatality rate compared to Sweden.

Switzerland is in lock down for 3 weeks, Sweden isn't
Sweden has a population of 10,12 million on ‎447.435 km², while Switzerland has 8.57 people on 41’285 km². And I heard keeping the 2m distance is the magic thing.
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Old 02.04.2020, 12:15
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You are pointing to a bigger problem that is independent of any virus: the dangerous merger of news with advertising. Independent journalism is an endangered species these days. Yes we should fight for freedom of speech and declaration of interests and we should discourage news coverage by ad brokers.
How about political interests that are behind broadcasting funded by taxes?

Why be so selective, news are funded, period. It is not independent, period.

Btw, FB and Twitter are not banning people for noble reasons, they are business like any others. To not think FB and Twitter and ad brokers at the same time, is naieve.

Hospitals elsewhere may be ok, GE is on fire already. Had a phonecall few mins ago with a buddy who's sis (nurse) in HUG said the worst is far from now, it will peak in May she said, but it is already difficult. May feels really far but if we did well and followed the measures past 3 wks, we will imho see the results end of April/May, imho.

CZ have managed to buckle up...knocked down the RO to a fraction now. But. One infected nursing home staff...and everything goes back to square one. I feel that people will start feeling like Don Quijotes soon. We do not have the discipline or forward thinking that South Korea and other Asian places, trained by SARS1, have. We have optimism but how much that helps in this...making society operational again through economy preserving steps while acquiring the same disciplined approach as in Asia might be the only way to get out of this. Which is easy to type, hard to imagine.
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Switzerland has double the case fatality rate compared to Sweden.

Switzerland is in lock down for 3 weeks, Sweden isn't
1. Sweden is behind us time-wise
2. Currently infections are growing exponentially in Sweden, and much slower (linearly) in CH
3. Comparing death rates is meaningless at the moment, as they are unknown really, plus there is time shift. Would need to wait until the dust settles...
4. Last, but not least: there has been much fewer deaths in the neighboring countries Norway and Finland (though again, too early to tally up).
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Old 02.04.2020, 12:39
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@ V__

Thank you for posting the chart of COVID-19 versus other pandemics.

Very frightening to see how high COVID-19 is on the chart after only three months.

Very sporting of you to share this chart when it contradicts your usual line that COVID-19 is nothing to worry about.

Please do also post updated charts.
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I did hear that they changed some of their rules, wasn't sure to what extent. Thanks for sharing. I guess compared to most of Europe those rules are still not as tight, in particular with respect to open cafes/restaurants (and shops?). Again, I hope it works out for them - but just looking at relatively "low" confirmed cases at the moment, isn't proof for the strategy to work but most likely related to other factors.
The other countries also started quite low; for example, Germany only closed restaurants a couple of weeks ago.

Sweden is behind us time-wise so expect the restrictions to tighten; people also forget Sweden's law on the prevention of the spread of infectious diseases obligates the public to help halt the spread of infection.
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Peter Piot is a Belgian epidemiologist who worked in Africa during first Ebola epidemics in '76 and then later on and in other hot spots points and was asking the question "Are we ready for the next pandemic" a few years ago.This conference was in 2018.. Watch this video if you're interested, it is depressing to see the lack of measures and public health policies our govs work on, it was well known by scientists that we will be confronted with a pandemic sooner or later, as they knew very well about coronaviruses etc yet we did nothing. People who run our countries are not in charge with our well being....they have other.... interests.

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The mods haven't really helped here as they deleted posts where I proved that V_ was falsifying data in his posts (OK, they were photos and not data as such, but still).

The mods are not deleting his posts where he is making biased and distorted claims - may be because they don't understand that he is doing that.
The only deletions I'm aware of were indeed to remove some trolling fake claims, and the replies to them that quoted them, so I guess it's one of those you're referring to. [Edit, yes, it was when he'd posted some clearly fake photos claiming to be Sweden now, and you pointed out that the trees couldn't be in leaf. I couldn't leave your refutation without also leaving the claim it was refuting].

It's difficult to act as arbiters of truth, and in general it's not our job to do so. It's up to individual members, not the mods, to try to ensure balance in what's posted, by continuing to point out incorrect or false claims.

It's annoying, I know, but there's no rule about posting only verified "facts", so unless it's clear that someone's just trolling by repeating the same garbage, there's not a lot we can do.
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Why Covid-19 deaths are a substantial over-estimate

Many UK health spokespersons have been careful to repeatedly say that the numbers quoted in the UK indicate death with the virus, not death due to the virus – this matters. When giving evidence in parliament a few days ago, Prof. Neil Ferguson of Imperial College London said that he now expects fewer than 20,000 Covid-19 deaths in the UK but, importantly, two-thirds of these people would have died anyway. In other words, he suggests that the crude figure for ‘Covid deaths’ is three times higher than the number who have actually been killed by Covid-19. (Even the two-thirds figure is an estimate – it would not surprise me if the real proportion is higher.)

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...vid-19-deaths-
Dumb arguments. Everyone would eventually die "anyway".

A healthy 80-year old person might have more of her life ahead of him/her than an obese 50-year old chainsmoker.

Both will die "eventually".

Even if you survive Corona, good chance you'll have permanent damage to your lungs done. About 1 in 4 patients need medical care, about 1 in 10 patients need intense medical care.

No medical system in the world is ready for that.

Switzerland, with 8 millions, would have to hospital 1 million people if "only" 50% of the population would catch Corona, which would absolutely be the case (if not more..) without counter measurements. About half of those might have permanent lung damage afterwards.

And we're not yet talking about those 400k of them needing intense medical care (ie, ventilators..)

Even if we just assume a quarter of those numbers, 100k - it's showing this is completely impossible.

Go figure..
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...it was well known by the scientists that we will be confronted with a pandemic as they know very well about coronaviruses etc yet we did nothing.
We did something, we didn't eat pangolins. It hasn't gotten us to a better place than China, though..

I think it is difficult to blame governments, their preventative measures would have been hard to understand by public, this is where South Korea had an advantage. People knew what is going on and why.

IT and ESP, imho, have difficult situations now, NYC too, because people did not realize that gov suggestions and warnings are to be taken dead seriously, literally. China faked at the beginning but then asked nobody for understanding and proceeded. I guess it all depends on how seriously will the public take gov rules, not on rules themselves. All the governments are saying the same stuff, plus ou moins.
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Faking a footage is not bad journalism, is creating mass hysteria. It fuels people like most EFers that today they seem to be allergic to facts, they only want to hear end of the world stories.

How many news stories were fabricated or at best hyped up in this madness?
Using false footage to illustrate a story should not happen but it does not automatically invalidate the story (edit) unless the footage itself is the story.

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Faking a footage is not bad journalism, is creating mass hysteria. It fuels people like most EFers that today they seem to be allergic to facts, they only want to hear end of the world stories.

How many news stories were fabricated or at best hyped up in this madness?
Well there's been a few that you've hyped up on here, like the fake photos of Sweden you posted. If you think people shouldn't repost fake stories then perhaps you should start with yourself?
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Using false footage to illustrate a story should not happen but it does not automatically invalidate the story (edit) unless the footage itself is the story.
But it does weaken the credibility of the person who does it. Or in some case, obliterate what little was left.
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