Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Living in Switzerland > Daily life  
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #6261  
Old 04.04.2020, 18:05
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: CH
Posts: 10,971
Groaned at 2,032 Times in 1,120 Posts
Thanked 5,139 Times in 3,246 Posts
omtatsat omtatsat omtatsat omtatsat omtatsat
Re: Coronavirus

Quote:
View Post
sorry, I meant we keep away from others on the path.
btw, is there a rule then on minimal distance between groups? because you could have ten peopl;e all spaced up 2 meters, is it considered then a group of 10 or two gropups of 5? the whole thing is just weird...
The rule is if its a group of 5 then its 5 times 2 metre=10 metre from the other group. Quite simple
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank omtatsat for this useful post:
  #6262  
Old 04.04.2020, 18:13
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Zurich
Posts: 219
Groaned at 4 Times in 4 Posts
Thanked 181 Times in 94 Posts
jimk is considered knowledgeablejimk is considered knowledgeablejimk is considered knowledgeable
Re: Coronavirus

Quote:
View Post
The rule is if its a group of 5 then its 5 times 2 metre=10 metre from the other group. Quite simple
for real? can I have the source pls?

anyway, to me it would've made more sense to restrict non-family groups to 2 people and have a set minimum distance between groups.

the larger non-family groups I keep seeing are pretty much always youngsters, they seem to have zero regard for needing to keep away from each other.
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank jimk for this useful post:
  #6263  
Old 04.04.2020, 18:14
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: CH
Posts: 10,971
Groaned at 2,032 Times in 1,120 Posts
Thanked 5,139 Times in 3,246 Posts
omtatsat omtatsat omtatsat omtatsat omtatsat
Re: Coronavirus

Quote:
View Post
for real? can I have the source pls?

anyway, to me it would've made more sense to restrict non-family groups to 2 people and have a set minimum distance between groups

Ha.Ha. Fooled ja. But it sounds good
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank omtatsat for this useful post:
  #6264  
Old 04.04.2020, 18:56
Newbie
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Portugal
Posts: 8
Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
galineu has no particular reputation at present
Re: Coronavirus

Quote:
View Post
That's the bizarre thing about all these measures: in order to protect 1 or 2 percent of the world population, you might send 50% into poverty and make sure all other that need help don't need the support and care they need.
It's not 1 or 2%. If this thing got out of control, it would be 10-20%, just look at Spain, Italy, the UK and the Netherlands. That's what happens when hospitals are overwhelmed.
Reply With Quote
  #6265  
Old 04.04.2020, 19:06
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Coronavirus

Quote:
View Post
It's not 1 or 2%. If this thing got out of control, it would be 10-20%, just look at Spain, Italy, the UK and the Netherlands. That's what happens when hospitals are overwhelmed.
10% to 20% is absolutely unrealistic.

If you only look at the confirmed cases you look at a group with on average high medical demand leaving out the bigger group who had little to no symptoms.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank for this useful post:
  #6266  
Old 04.04.2020, 19:09
AbFab's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Zürich
Posts: 8,375
Groaned at 356 Times in 244 Posts
Thanked 12,356 Times in 4,226 Posts
AbFab has a reputation beyond reputeAbFab has a reputation beyond reputeAbFab has a reputation beyond reputeAbFab has a reputation beyond reputeAbFab has a reputation beyond reputeAbFab has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Coronavirus

Quote:
View Post
It's not 1 or 2%. If this thing got out of control, it would be 10-20%, just look at Spain, Italy, the UK and the Netherlands. That's what happens when hospitals are overwhelmed.
Hospitals overwhelmed aside, the death rate is coming out at somewhere between 2 and 0.66% over all. We probably won‘t know fully for another 12 months until we actually know who has the antibodies and so who survived it.

If it „got out of control“ it would be a mess in hospitals, but to state 10-20% is simply untrue and scaremongering. Enough people are scared as it is, with such silly statements.

The economic and psychological damage from Covid-19 is going to be much higher than those it kills...
Reply With Quote
The following 8 users would like to thank AbFab for this useful post:
  #6267  
Old 04.04.2020, 19:24
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: ZH
Posts: 8,080
Groaned at 96 Times in 77 Posts
Thanked 12,467 Times in 5,062 Posts
doropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Coronavirus

Quote:
View Post
That is actually something which really surprised me, how so many companies were/are operating at a pecuniary limit.
Yes, I know several small businesses which have to operate at that scary financial limit. They make it through, from one month to the next, but only just. In a good month, they manage to set something aside for a low month, but not much more than that.

The businesses I can think of are: kiosk owners, physiotherapists, sole-traders or small companies offering home nursing, painters, taxi drivers, kebab stands, cleaners, Brockenhäuser (second-hand shops).

They've told me, (in the past, not to do with Corona), how odd they find it that they are admired, or envied, and told that they must be running a veritable gold mine, while those looking on with envy don't seem to realise that some months these small businesses cope at all only because another family member is working somewhere else, earning a salary, and covering the business owner's living costs. It can be a very stressful way to have to live.
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank doropfiz for this useful post:
  #6268  
Old 04.04.2020, 19:27
Castro's Avatar
à la mod
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: ZG
Posts: 5,624
Groaned at 124 Times in 100 Posts
Thanked 16,907 Times in 5,372 Posts
Castro has a reputation beyond reputeCastro has a reputation beyond reputeCastro has a reputation beyond reputeCastro has a reputation beyond reputeCastro has a reputation beyond reputeCastro has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Coronavirus

Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank Castro for this useful post:
  #6269  
Old 04.04.2020, 19:36
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: CH
Posts: 10,849
Groaned at 346 Times in 282 Posts
Thanked 15,881 Times in 8,108 Posts
greenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Coronavirus

Quote:
View Post
Was impeccable, in your mind anyway, but then you ruined it by changing your post, then lying about it.
So, you're still a liar.
It wasn't.....and it's a habit.


Btw, did you follow your own advice and got some sunlight? Arguing with anon. on the internet is futile.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank greenmount for this useful post:
  #6270  
Old 04.04.2020, 19:46
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: CH
Posts: 10,849
Groaned at 346 Times in 282 Posts
Thanked 15,881 Times in 8,108 Posts
greenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond reputegreenmount has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Coronavirus

Quote:
10% to 20% is absolutely unrealistic.

If you only look at the confirmed cases you look at a group with on average high medical demand leaving out the bigger group who had little to no symptoms.
Maybe it's not 10-20% but not 1-2% only either...for the time being it's impossible to say anything with accuracy.

And it's a question of logic - the bigger the total number of patients, the bigger the number of those allegedly few percentages who need hospitalisation, which leaves the chronic and other acute diseases pretty much uncovered if overall corona cases continue to grow.

Anyway, I really like what president of Argentina said (approximately):

"An economy - you can recover that, a lost human life - no, you can't recover that."

Last edited by greenmount; 04.04.2020 at 19:57.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank greenmount for this useful post:
  #6271  
Old 04.04.2020, 19:52
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Coronavirus

Quote:
View Post
It's not 1 or 2%. If this thing got out of control, it would be 10-20%, just look at Spain, Italy, the UK and the Netherlands. That's what happens when hospitals are overwhelmed.
It only seems high in many countries because they don't test enough and therefore massively undercount their cases. Up to 2% looks reasonable, uncontrolled that could double because of the lack of ventilators.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank for this useful post:
  #6272  
Old 04.04.2020, 20:39
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: BaselStadt
Posts: 482
Groaned at 91 Times in 42 Posts
Thanked 974 Times in 393 Posts
CodPeace has a reputation beyond reputeCodPeace has a reputation beyond reputeCodPeace has a reputation beyond reputeCodPeace has a reputation beyond reputeCodPeace has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Coronavirus

Quote:
View Post
It wasn't.....and it's a habit.

Btw, did you follow your own advice and got some sunlight? Arguing with anon. on the internet is futile.
Thanks for the reminder. I bit good and proper.
Anyway, I did take the dog out in the throng of people in the woods.

It's generally busy on the first real warm weelend of spring, but today was ridiculous. Poor pooch was more on the lead than off.
Reply With Quote
  #6273  
Old 04.04.2020, 21:38
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Coronavirus

Quote:
View Post
Thanks for the reminder. I bit good and proper.
Anyway, I did take the dog out in the throng of people in the woods.

It's generally busy on the first real warm weelend of spring, but today was ridiculous. Poor pooch was more on the lead than off.
In these lockdown/quarantine times, I would never allow my dog off lead as if they happen to run to another dog or person, you risk coming into contact to retrieve them. Leave your dog on the lead/leash and then you can redirect your dog should others approach.

You should be in control in these times and not your dog

Just my thoughts!
Reply With Quote
The following 12 users would like to thank for this useful post:
  #6274  
Old 04.04.2020, 23:33
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: ZH
Posts: 8,080
Groaned at 96 Times in 77 Posts
Thanked 12,467 Times in 5,062 Posts
doropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond reputedoropfiz has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Coronavirus

Quote:
View Post
It seems crazy that over Easter thousands will flock to Tessin. Seems like an hypocricy to me. And then they bring more viruses back here!
And yet the Swiss Federal Council has repeatedly implored people not to go the the Tessin. Nor to any other holiday destination in Switzerland, not even to one's own holiday home.

If I'm not mistaken the Canton of Tessin itself has also asked people please to stay away.

You're probably right, Omtatsat, that some people will try it, anyway, though one does wonder what part of Just Stay At Home they don't understand.
Reply With Quote
  #6275  
Old 05.04.2020, 07:44
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: CH
Posts: 10,971
Groaned at 2,032 Times in 1,120 Posts
Thanked 5,139 Times in 3,246 Posts
omtatsat omtatsat omtatsat omtatsat omtatsat
Re: Coronavirus

They burn heretics don't they?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7EoaQKk58o
Reply With Quote
  #6276  
Old 05.04.2020, 09:23
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: CH
Posts: 10,971
Groaned at 2,032 Times in 1,120 Posts
Thanked 5,139 Times in 3,246 Posts
omtatsat omtatsat omtatsat omtatsat omtatsat
Re: Coronavirus

And kiddies. Behave yourself in this nice weather. Big Daddy said if you don't he will lock you up in your room the whole Easter long!
Reply With Quote
  #6277  
Old 05.04.2020, 09:37
robBob's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Zurich
Posts: 2,948
Groaned at 62 Times in 48 Posts
Thanked 2,845 Times in 1,512 Posts
robBob has a reputation beyond reputerobBob has a reputation beyond reputerobBob has a reputation beyond reputerobBob has a reputation beyond reputerobBob has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Coronavirus

Quote:
View Post

You're probably right, Omtatsat, that some people will try it, anyway, though one does wonder what part of Just Stay At Home they don't understand.
Home is where one lays his hat.
https://youtu.be/nXiQtD5gcHU
Reply With Quote
  #6278  
Old 05.04.2020, 09:44
AbFab's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Zürich
Posts: 8,375
Groaned at 356 Times in 244 Posts
Thanked 12,356 Times in 4,226 Posts
AbFab has a reputation beyond reputeAbFab has a reputation beyond reputeAbFab has a reputation beyond reputeAbFab has a reputation beyond reputeAbFab has a reputation beyond reputeAbFab has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Coronavirus

Due to the Federal Government‘s preparations for a Covid-19 onslaught, it ordered all non-urgent hospital treatment to be delayed.

The result? „ Many hospitals and clinics in Switzerland are currently half empty.“ and putting medical staff on short time working! „The beds are empty, some of the employees are at home.“

Source:

https://www.medinside.ch/de/post/wei...gen-kurzarbeit
Reply With Quote
The following 7 users would like to thank AbFab for this useful post:
  #6279  
Old 05.04.2020, 09:56
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: CH
Posts: 10,971
Groaned at 2,032 Times in 1,120 Posts
Thanked 5,139 Times in 3,246 Posts
omtatsat omtatsat omtatsat omtatsat omtatsat
Re: Coronavirus

Quote:
View Post
Due to the Federal Government‘s preparations for a Covid-19 onslaught, it ordered all non-urgent hospital treatment to be delayed.

The result? „ Many hospitals and clinics in Switzerland are currently half empty.“ and putting medical staff on short time working! „The beds are empty, some of the employees are at home.“

Source:

https://www.medinside.ch/de/post/wei...gen-kurzarbeit
Yes and the doctors have no work because they perform so many unnecessary operations just to fill their own pockets and push up the crazy costs of health insurance
Reply With Quote
  #6280  
Old 05.04.2020, 10:20
Belgianmum's Avatar
Roastbeef & Yorkshire mod
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Neuchâtel
Posts: 13,147
Groaned at 236 Times in 198 Posts
Thanked 21,895 Times in 8,950 Posts
Belgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Coronavirus

Quote:
View Post
Due to the Federal Government‘s preparations for a Covid-19 onslaught, it ordered all non-urgent hospital treatment to be delayed.

The result? „ Many hospitals and clinics in Switzerland are currently half empty.“ and putting medical staff on short time working! „The beds are empty, some of the employees are at home.“

Source:

https://www.medinside.ch/de/post/wei...gen-kurzarbeit
Yep, a friend who is a surgeon at Schultess clinic says they are spending most if their time playing cards at the moment but are on standby to accept Covid patients if necessary.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
cold, corona, coronavirus, covid, covid-19, flu, health, medical, virus




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 9 (0 members and 9 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Coronavirus Jokes makeabigwish Daily life 258 19.10.2021 05:45
Coronavirus closed janvier Forum support 18 01.11.2020 13:12
Paid holidays and coronavirus Curtiss Employment 2 20.04.2020 09:22
Coronavirus scammers are out there - be warned Medea Fleecestealer Daily life 9 18.04.2020 18:53
Leaving Switzerland for UK during coronavirus barkingtreewolf Leaving Switzerland 19 11.04.2020 11:45


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 22:51.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0