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I don't think "passports for the immunized" will work either since there were people who got reinfected, shedding virus.
This is currently fake news as not enough is known at the moment.

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it’s likely the reports of patients who seemed to have recovered but then tested positive again were not examples of re-infection, but were cases where lingering infection was not detected by tests for a period of time.
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Old 06.04.2020, 11:33
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I think this was expected. It will go until we get targeted treatment and start vaccinating. Until then...testing and tracking. I don't think "passports for the immunized" will work either since there were people who got reinfected, shedding virus.
Imagine it will take 5 years until a vaccine is available. We would be living in a total different world by then.
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Old 06.04.2020, 11:38
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Imagine it will take 5 years until a vaccine is available. We would be living in a total different world by then.
Not sure what you're basing that figure on. A virus that's closed down the global economy will produce a vaccine PDQ in my view.
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Old 06.04.2020, 11:39
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This is currently fake news as not enough is known at the moment.
I can totaly see that, yeah.

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Imagine it will take 5 years until a vaccine is available. We would be living in a total different world by then.
Smaller, for sure. I don't imagine 5 years, but cca 18months. I think people are hopeful, they have to be.
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Old 06.04.2020, 11:57
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Only 6% of frontalieri here work in the healthcare sector.

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It's always going to stick in my craw that you were adamant that the border should be closed for weeks before it actually was. You were right.


A disturbing development last night. It appears that Covid-19 has jumped species again...

Tiger at New York's Bronx Zoo tests positive for coronavirus
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN21N0WV
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Old 06.04.2020, 12:00
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It's always going to stick in my craw that you were adamant that the border should be closed for weeks before it actually was. You were right.


A disturbing development last night. It appears that Covid-19 has jumped species again...

Tiger at New York's Bronx Zoo tests positive for coronavirus
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN21N0WV
If the advice is to keep at least 2m from any tiger you see, I'll follow that advice.

Didn't they show that domesticated cats could already get it?
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Old 06.04.2020, 12:02
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Imagine it will take 5 years until a vaccine is available. We would be living in a total different world by then.
5 years... where did you get that figure from? Apparently 18 months would be achievable if things go smoothly. https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ccine-be-ready.

EDIT - Misunderstood your post and see now that you were referring to a theoretical scenario.
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Old 06.04.2020, 12:04
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Yesterday we had the lowest number of cases since 18 March. We are being quite strict enough. It's working quite quickly. Two weeks and the numbers will be very low.
I'm not so sure. Traffic surveyors were outside our house twice last week for a number of hours at a time, and with over a dozen camera's on the pavement angled to catch the reg plates of passing vehicles.
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Old 06.04.2020, 12:06
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5 years... where did you get that figure from? Apparently 18 months would be achievable if things go smoothly. https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ccine-be-ready.
I think this was a hypothetical "imagine" scenario.
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I think this was a hypothetical "imagine" scenario.
Ahh I see, I thought he meant: "I imagine that it will take 5 years. Thanks.
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Old 06.04.2020, 12:11
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Birds and bees are going crazy outside..It is not fair, we have to be locked in.
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...Let's not forget that right before schools closed here there were petions of thousands of parents, teachers and medical professionals.
Yours truly himself wrote an email to his daughter's Kantonschule's Rektor 3 days before schools got closed, suggesting to let at least the older students study from home, instead of taking the train every day and congregating all in one building. He replied that it's not in his power. By then daughter developed cough and high fever, but of course testing was refused. We had to isolate her in her room for days which was pain in the butt, and we still don't know if she had corona or not.
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A disturbing development last night. It appears that Covid-19 has jumped species again...

Tiger at New York's Bronx Zoo tests positive for coronavirus
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN21N0WV
Not so weird tbh, one of the other earlier outbreaks of Sars or Mers infected over 40 tigers, and feline coronaviruses are pretty common in cats so this was sort of to be expected.
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Old 06.04.2020, 12:24
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A disturbing development last night. It appears that Covid-19 has jumped species again...
It's not necessarily something to worry about. The question is whether it can spread to domestic cats, whether it affects them badly, how infectious it is between cats, and whether humans can be infected from cats. It's very dependent on the specific biology of the animals (and humans).

During the swine-flu epidemic there were cases of dogs getting it. But it is rare. Something to be kept an eye on rather than worry about at this stage I feel.
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Old 06.04.2020, 12:24
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Only 6% of frontalieri here work in the healthcare sector.

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What's more relevant is what %age of the total # of healthcare workers in Ticino those 4000 correspond to. If the 4000 are 5% of total, one could argue temporarily shutting the border may have helped. If it's 20% or more - not so much.
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Old 06.04.2020, 12:27
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Not sure what you're basing that figure on. A virus that's closed down the global economy will produce a vaccine PDQ in my view.
Like HIV/AIDS you mean?
40 years since it was identified and still no vaccine.

South Korea is showing us the way, we just need to make sure data protection is taken care of. And that's fairly simple if done at the source.

Instead we think we should invent the wheel yet one more time.
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Old 06.04.2020, 12:28
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By then daughter developed cough and high fever, but of course testing was refused. We had to isolate her in her room for days which was pain in the butt, and we still don't know if she had corona or not.
Agreed. Since someone posed the question in this thread last week, I now know two people personally in the UK who've had symptoms of the virus and have had to self-isolate, including a family member. One was borderline being hospitalised after being in bed for 5 days. The other was in bed for several days whilst her partner cared for their 3 children. She says it's taken her 2 weeks to get back to feeling remotely normal again. She's a 3rd year student midwife and one of the thousands of medical students being fast tracked to frontline duties.
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Old 06.04.2020, 12:38
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Apparently getting cheap cigs is more important than your health. ....
That's not new. Germans were caught repetitively trying to get into Switzerland to get "cheap tobacco", Berset mentioned it in a very early press conference.

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If the advice is to keep at least 2m from any tiger you see, I'll follow that advice.

Didn't they show that domesticated cats could already get it?
Actually I'd be well impressed if I ever got as close as 2m to a tiger (apart from the zoo of course).
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Old 06.04.2020, 12:43
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A Belgian domestic cat apparently tested positive. 2 dogs in Asia, one died, if I remember well.
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Old 06.04.2020, 12:46
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Here's the Austrian path back to some level of normality. Expect Switzerland to be similar, perhaps with a delay to reflect the higher level of cases here

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The Austrian Chancellor, Sebastian Kurz, has said the country is planning to let smaller shops reopen next week, with the aim of reopening all shops and malls from 1 May.

From then onwards, hotels and restaurants will open step-by-step from mid-May at the earliest, but a decision on that will come in late April. No events will be held until at least late June.

Kurz told a news conference that since Austria had acted earlier than most countries, that gave it the ability to reopen shops sooner as well.

If all goes well, it will reopen non-essential shops of less than 400 square metres and DIY shops on April 14, followed by all shops and malls on May 1, he said.

Meanwhile general lockdown measures will be extended until the end of April, and schools will remain closed until at least mid-May.

Kurz also announced that from Monday, face masks will be compulsory on public transport.
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