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Suppose you meant Dom Perignon?

I drank only once in my life and I think it's highly overrated.

But of course, not spending my days drinking might make me the ignorant one....
I doubt you drank the 1982....
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Old 15.04.2020, 12:55
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All time favourite is 1982 Dom Perigean, served Verve Clicquot yellow at our wedding.
So you're a Champagne Charlie?
Forgive me for not posting the 'Urban Dictionary' definition of that as it uses language that I refuse to use personally.
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Old 15.04.2020, 12:56
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I try to imagine and the only example I have is Sweden.

Not only nothing disastrous happened in Sweden, but they have had less infections/deaths compared to 12 other countries that did a lock down.

Switzerland is still at 900 corona deaths compared to 1500 deaths from a flu year.
Wait a min....

Switzerland population = 8.57 million, covid19 death = 900 up today, deaths per million ~ 105 death per million

Sweden population = 10.23 million, covid19 deaths up today = 1033, deaths per million ~ 101 death per million

Today the death rate is practically the same in SE and CH. I remember one of the press conferences of the CH Bundesrat. Mme. Sommaruga said something like we know what to do and we can afford it. Emphasis on afford.

I bet a couple beers in a bar (when they reopen) the death rate per million will be correlated to the strength of public finances. Sweden already looks like the poor brother of Norway....yes those oil savings can pay for the lockdown. If the trend continues, death per million will rise in SE and it will be really hard to argue the Swiss lockdown was misguided. If you don't use the money to protect the population, what better thing money can buy? Also, as champagne socialist, where's the economical hardship?
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I doubt you drank the 1982....
Maybe it wasn't the right one. But I guess it goes deeper than that. Trust me, you wouldn't have wanted to waste it on peasants like me.
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It is proof that the impact of the virus isn't bad as expected, the modeling used by the government meant that they expected far more ICU beds which is why they scaled up with the Nightingale Hospitals (an incredible achievement btw). What has happened is in fact that the beds haven't been required.

This matters because the purpose of the lock down (in the UK at least) was to "protect the NHS". So far this has worked and the NHS hasn't been overwhelmed. If the healthcare system is coping, then it opens up the rational to ending the lockdown.
The healthcare system is coping because of the lockdown.
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Suppose you meant Dom Perignon?

I drank only once in my life and I think it's highly overrated.

But of course, not spending my days drinking might make me the ignorant one....
I have tried "cheap good" and champagne and "expensive good" champagne and it is my genuine belief that it is also a load of absolute pretentious BS, same as with many delicacies such as caviar. Caviar used to be an appetizer on the level of peanuts, free in ye olden bars and often fed to dogs, and then one day someone, probably from Russia, decided it would be a delicacy fit for a king.

Many such luxuries are man-made cultural nonsense designed to make people feel better about themselves and gauge their worth, and very often no reflection of actual taste and/or refinement.
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Old 15.04.2020, 13:06
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Maybe it wasn't the right one. But I guess it goes deeper than that. Trust me, you wouldn't have wanted to waste it on peasants like me.
I only bought it as I believed it was mis-priced in a London club. They opened a bottle of 1983 without showing me the label, it was very forgettable. They did then find a bottle of 1982 that was totally different & left both bottles on the table
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I have tried "cheap good" and champagne and "expensive good" champagne and it is my genuine belief that it is also a load of absolute pretentious BS, same as with many delicacies such as caviar. Caviar used to be an appetizer on the level of peanuts, free in ye olden bars and often fed to dogs, and then one day someone, probably from Russia, decided it would be a delicacy fit for a king.

Many such luxuries are man-made cultural nonsense designed to make people feel better about themselves and gauge their worth, and very often no reflection of actual taste and/or refinement.
Morrisons sell a very nice one for £15 & Carrefour have a good one for €12. I hate Moet at 3 times the price. All very different & vintage is hugely important with 'good' Champagne. Do bear in mind that bottles are often corked & should be returned for a refund if they are.

I seem to remember you are a proud owner of a mass produced Swiss watch
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What is your predction? They said on the local news last night that the officials are happy with how disciplined people were. I can already hear the traffic really picking up, compared to 2 wks ago.
I'd say it's likely that the numbers over the next couple of days will be considerably higher, following the usual weekly testing pattern (and exacerbated by Easter). But I hope to be wrong. In any case, if we smoothen the peaks and valleys it does look like the peak has passed.
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Old 15.04.2020, 13:09
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I have tried "cheap good" and champagne and "expensive good" champagne and it is my genuine belief that it is also a load of absolute pretentious BS, same as with many delicacies such as caviar. Caviar used to be an appetizer on the level of peanuts, free in ye olden bars and often fed to dogs, and then one day someone, probably from Russia, decided it would be a delicacy fit for a king.

Many such luxuries are man-made cultural nonsense designed to make people feel better about themselves and gauge their worth, and very often no reflection of actual taste and/or refinement.
I doubt it was his worth he was flaunting, but rather a loving gesture for his lady. Or vice versa?

Who cares?

Fmf - I've never heard of anyone returning a corked bottle, except from those you drink at a place you buy, resto/bar. Do people really do that?
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Old 15.04.2020, 13:13
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I'd say it's likely that the numbers over the next couple of days will be considerably higher, following the usual weekly testing pattern (and exacerbated by Easter). But I hope to be wrong. In any case, if we smoothen the peaks and valleys it does look like the peak has passed.
I would say so.
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I only bought it as I believed it was mis-priced in a London club. They opened a bottle of 1983 without showing me the label, it was very forgettable. They did then find a bottle of 1982 that was totally different & left both bottles on the table
I think it was very generous of you to serve it on your wedding. I have simple tastes (well...it depends) but I appreciate when people make an effort, sometimes a bit misguided/too much/not really necessary imho but still an effort.
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Old 15.04.2020, 13:20
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You have an incredible amount of insight for someone who only joined this forum in December 2019
Yes, funny that.

Now on a completely unrelated subject, remind me, when did Loz hit the self-destruct button?
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... served Verve Clicquot yellow at our wedding.
You served what?

Were they cheap Chinese knock-offs? Like this?

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I doubt it was his worth he was flaunting, but rather a loving gesture for his lady. Or vice versa?

Who cares?

Fmf - I've never heard of anyone returning a corked bottle, except from those you drink at a place you buy, resto/bar. Do people really do that?
I was not talking about FMF, I was just musing in general in response to Greenmounts post as it made me think about the topic.
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CNN article here about antibody tests, summarise the current situation quite well.

Basically wait and see.
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Looks to me like everyone who posts carries the same weight, forum legend or not.
Not really. Not because of their forum ranking but because of what they post.

Case in point:
Replying to ICU occupancy with what he did is simply nonsensical.
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Old 15.04.2020, 13:45
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Why can't one have a different opinion than everybody else?
Of course that depends who you are... . ...but seriously folks, take it easy as I see some members suffering a bit from the situation and expressing that on here, generally EF has been wonderful and informative during this time. Even I'm not being the usual asshole on here (to some anyway).
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Do keep on living, folks

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Huh?

...You served what?
The '82 isn't the most expensive Dom Perignon https://www.wine-searcher.com/find/d...ne+france/1982

I suspect FMF means the Verve Clique Yellow Label or Yellowboam?
https://www.wine-searcher.com/find/v...que+yellowboam
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I hate Moet at 3 times the price.
Do you know which winery makes Dom Pérignon?


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I think it was very generous of you to serve it on your wedding.
He didn't. He says he served something called "Verve Clicquot".
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