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Old 24.04.2020, 21:36
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Apparently my home county has decided to open everything on Monday, despite the state will having a statewide "safer at home" thing going on. Restaurants, hair dressers, you name it. There are supposedly strict rules on hygiene and limits on how many people per the size of the space.

Nevermind that yesterday the county reported its highest number of new cases since this all started.
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Old 24.04.2020, 21:47
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Apparently my home county has decided to open everything on Monday, despite the state will having a statewide "safer at home" thing going on. Restaurants, hair dressers, you name it. There are supposedly strict rules on hygiene and limits on how many people per the size of the space.

Nevermind that yesterday the county reported its highest number of new cases since this all started.
America's removing the lockdown?
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America's removing the lockdown?
No ...This is done on the state level with governors giving the directive. I assume 3 Wishes is from Georgia perhaps? Not sure . That said, it depends on the state whether the lockdown is altered/changed.
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Old 24.04.2020, 21:54
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No ...This is done on the state level with governors giving the directive. I assume 3 Wishes is from Georgia perhaps? Not sure . That said, it depends on the state whether the lockdown is altered/changed.
It sounds like the mayor has more power than the governor.
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Old 24.04.2020, 21:56
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No ...This is done on the state level with governors giving the directive. I assume 3 Wishes is from Georgia perhaps? Not sure . That said, it depends on the state whether the lockdown is altered/changed.
Been there multiple times but not from there. What terrifisch says is right, governors are giving directives, and if local officials disagree, they're apparently going their own way because they know the state can't exactly send troops to enforce it. Well, there's your control group I guess.
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Re: Coronavirus

Well, every indicator (new cases, deaths) has a certain lag with respect to the actual transmission situation, so maybe it is not super absolutely dumb. Just a bit of a gamble.
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Old 24.04.2020, 22:16
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The lockdown has lost its importance to our youth. And I don't blame them. It's time to loosen the lockdown and completely scrap it in June.
Not just to youth. It was all fine for the first 2-3 weeks, around week 4 people started to get mildly annoyed and as of week 5 or 6, people started to lose it, to varying degrees. This is hardly a surprise and was bound to happen and in a democracy, it's simply impossible to sustain this. So you have a choice - become reasonable and find measured, balanced approaches where people still stick to some mild, but limited restrictions. Or wait until they're so pissed off they throw it all into the wind. The former seems like the better pick.

People here are neatly keeping their distance still. It doesn't really need more than that at this point.
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Old 24.04.2020, 22:45
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Still not replaced that logic circuit?
You need to call these scientists to tell them to replace their logic circuits

Italy's coronavirus epidemic began in January, study shows

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKCN2262B1

I'm sure these scientists do it on purpose to bother some EFers here
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Old 24.04.2020, 22:49
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Context seems to be that the Coronavirus task force has been looking into ways to kill the virus, reduce transmission, etc. Sunlight, UV, and disinfectants have shown to be effective.

Trump, in his wisdom, seems to have decided that these can therefore be touted as potential cures for the virus - as treatments to be used directly on/in the human body. And of course, he's not a doctor, he's just a guy with a good 'you-know-what', so he doesn't directly say that these are known cures, just that his team has agreed to 'check on it'.

As if they'll open up Encyclopedia Brittanica to double check if shoving a high power flashlight up the ass will kill the virus or not.

What exactly should the MSM be ashamed of and why?
Where exactly did he suggest or recommend to inject disinfectants, as the BBC claims?

He's clearly speculating, hypothesising, and starts with "Suppose we hit the body with [light, UV, etc]..." and so on, using "suppose" multiple times.
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Unfortunately, Trump himself spouts obvious malice nearly every time he opens his mouth to refuse to take any responsibility. He can't claim to be a victim while at the same time being an attacker himself.
The problem with that kind of logic is that MSM lose any and every kind of higher ground they may have had once they do the same (repeatedly). And perhaps more importantly they lose the credibility they may have had. Heck, they even confirm Trump's "fake media".

The result is an even faster loss of subscribers. The MSM are digging their own graves by enticing ever more people to move on to other news sources.
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I know he's using "suppose " etc but the very fact he's saying it out in public instead of in a behind-the-scenes meeting with experts is the problem. The fact remains he speculated/enquired/ mused/ whatever out loud and in front of the world, essentially and that puts the notion out in the world. The speculation was the dangerous thing. He should know better.


You're all arguing that he did/didn't actually suggest folk injected themselves with disinfectant .... but that is irrelevant. He floated the idea. Sadly many many people may take him seriously, or take his musings as an appropriate course of action. That is issue. And I'm surprised at the folk on this thread who can't seem to see that or indeed make that distinction.
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Old 24.04.2020, 23:26
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Been there multiple times but not from there. What terrifisch says is right, governors are giving directives, and if local officials disagree, they're apparently going their own way because they know the state can't exactly send troops to enforce it. Well, there's your control group I guess.
Oops 3Wishes I meant to type South Carolina rather than Georgia. I guess this lockdown is wreaking havoc on my mental acuity/memory.
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Old 24.04.2020, 23:27
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Apparently my home county has decided to open everything on Monday, despite the state will having a statewide "safer at home" thing going on. Restaurants, hair dressers, you name it. There are supposedly strict rules on hygiene and limits on how many people per the size of the space.

Nevermind that yesterday the county reported its highest number of new cases since this all started.
I guess we may be from the same state If you're from the county I think you're from, indeed, rather stupid as the county despite low pop. density is I believe the 3rd highest in the state in terms of cases and deaths.

Personally think the governor's roll out plan is good, as well as the ability of counties to decided for themselves. E.g. metro area is NOT ending the stay at home order due to higher number of cases.

Of course this is assuming we're talking about the same place Does your county start with a W and end with a D?
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I think the fact that he didn't suggest or advise people to actually inject disinfectant is the distinction.
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Old 24.04.2020, 23:49
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I think the fact that he didn't suggest or advise people to actually inject disinfectant is the distinction.
I suppose we are used to world leaders who weigh their words and their impacts very carefully instead of shooting from the hip on world television.
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Old 24.04.2020, 23:51
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I think the fact that he didn't suggest or advise people to actually inject disinfectant is the distinction.
“And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute — one minute — and is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning?” he asked. “Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it would be interesting to check that.”

He IS suggesting that disinfectant works in that he provides a statement what disinfectant does to the lungs.
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I suppose we are used to world leaders who weigh their words and their impacts very carefully...
Maybe we haven't noticed who's been winning in the meantime though: freaks and flukes, gutsy kings of nonstandard. It serves us right.
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Old 25.04.2020, 00:26
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Maybe we haven't noticed who's been winning in the meantime though: freaks and flukes, gutsy kings of nonstandard. It serves us right.
Approaching 200,000 deaths worldwide and you post about winning!
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As of now, there have been 41 deaths and 38 recoveries out of 1,354 confirmed cases. (25.1.2020)
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Update 2 months later, (25.3.2020):

21,174 deaths and 113,808 recoveries out of 467,520 confirmed cases.
Update 1 month later (25.4.2020):

196,735 deaths and 779,774 recoveries out of 2,820,949 confirmed cases.
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I know he's using "suppose " etc but the very fact he's saying it out in public instead of in a behind-the-scenes meeting with experts is the problem. The fact remains he speculated/enquired/ mused/ whatever out loud and in front of the world, essentially and that puts the notion out in the world. The speculation was the dangerous thing. He should know better.

You're all arguing that he did/didn't actually suggest folk injected themselves with disinfectant .... but that is irrelevant. He floated the idea. Sadly many many people may take him seriously, or take his musings as an appropriate course of action. That is issue. And I'm surprised at the folk on this thread who can't seem to see that or indeed make that distinction.
You're wrong. The issue isn't that he floated it, as you call it, that's just your red herring. The real issue is the BBC's blatant lie.

Without that lie his musings wouldn't have made headlines elsewhere and the whole nonsense probably would have gone forgotten in no time, like the stupid stuff everybody else says at times.

To claim that his words are justification for the BBC's lie is bizarre. Very bizarre indeed. Next thing you're going to say is that BBC's his lap dog.

Many on here lament the mindset displayed by Republicans and especially Trumpists, namely that they'll eat any shit he feeds them. In many cases they have a strong point. However, trying to justify the BBC's lie shows exactly the same mindset - the target justifies the means, and anything and everything will do as long as Trump is the target.

There is simply no justification for the BBC's blatant lie. None.
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