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Old 30.04.2020, 23:13
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Re: Coronavirus

During the 2008 crisis, it took 2 years to reach the unemployment peak of 15 million in the USA

In only 6 weeks unemployment doubled to 30 million compared to the peak in 2008
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Old 30.04.2020, 23:48
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In only 6 weeks unemployment doubled to 30 million compared to the peak in 2008
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During the 2008 crisis, it took 2 years to reach the unemployment peak of 15 million in the USA

In only 6 weeks unemployment doubled to 30 million compared to the peak in 2008
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Al this social distancing cant be psychologically good in the long term. One starts to regard the next person as somehow a threat ( enemy ). I really dont like it if I am walking on the footpath and an approaching person walks onto the road to keep as fas away from me possible. Fully neurotic!! And if he gets run down be a car - fully ironic!

And on the subject of masks "Eyes also say something, Japanese people can respond - and of course that's true. But a face doesn't just consist of eyes. Behind the mask you do not immediately recognize people who should be recognized immediately. At the cash register you feel like you are being addressed by a machine because you can not see any lip movements. The binding friendliness, which is part of the Japanese self-image, is filtered out of the situation. In the end, the mask is not just a mask, but a kind of barrier on which the sympathies bounce off."

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Old 01.05.2020, 12:23
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Al this social distancing cant be psychologically good in the long term. One starts to regard the next person as somehow a threat ( enemy ). I really dont like it if I am walking on the footpath and an approaching person walks onto the road to keep as fas away from me possible. Fully neurotic!!
Indeed, reminiscences of petty theft in my home country where by instinct you scan the people around all the time

The curious thing is that face masks trigger this reaction.
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Great video produced by the NHS and shown on Friday's UK Govt daily briefing illustrating the rate of
infection ( what they always refer to as the Rate or R ) in the UK briefings during the Coronavirus crisis.

This is the one of the most important indicators of how deep lockdown ( & Social distancing ) restrictions
will remain, be eased or reimposed in any country ( not just the UK ) as all countries that are affected by the
Covid-19 Pandemic, will be watching closely - The Rate of R meaning the rate of infection of the virus.

NHS Covid-19 video - The most Important tests, the rate of Infection
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Indeed, reminiscences of petty theft in my home country where by instinct you scan the people around all the time

The curious thing is that face masks trigger this reaction.
Yes. 50 years ago I dont think anybody anywhere wore face masks. It seems now to be ( as well ) an expression also of isolation and wanting to hide. And the Japanese were good at that. They closed their country off for many years.
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Old 01.05.2020, 13:24
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Re: Coronavirus

I have a question for the likes who may dabble in the medical profession. Now, the guy from BAG stated that kids under the age of 10 cannot be vectors of the disease because they lack the necessary receptors. Now, I'm confused, does cardboard have the required receptors? How is the virus supposed to exist on cardboard for up to 48h but somehow manages to slip away from kids under the age of 10?
This would also mean, that Covid19 is the only respiratory virus, where kids are not vectors.
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I have a question for the likes who may dabble in the medical profession. Now, the guy from BAG stated that kids under the age of 10 cannot be vectors of the disease because they lack the necessary receptors. Now, I'm confused, does cardboard have the required receptors? How is the virus supposed to exist on cardboard for up to 48h but somehow manages to slip away from kids under the age of 10?
This would also mean, that Covid19 is the only respiratory virus, where kids are not vectors.
Yes right. Which explains why smokers are at risk. Nicotine in the lungs is sticky and has ALOT of vectors for the Virus to " stick" to. I have dabbled alot in the Medical world

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I have a question for the likes who may dabble in the medical profession. Now, the guy from BAG stated that kids under the age of 10 cannot be vectors of the disease because they lack the necessary receptors. Now, I'm confused, does cardboard have the required receptors? How is the virus supposed to exist on cardboard for up to 48h but somehow manages to slip away from kids under the age of 10?
This would also mean, that Covid19 is the only respiratory virus, where kids are not vectors.
No medical expert here, but kids under the age of 10 presumably take showers or baths more frequently than 48 hours

Also, we have those cells that kill pathogens.
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Yes right. Which explains why smokers are at risk. Nicotine in the lungs is sticky and has ALOT of vectors for the Virus to " stick" to.
Well, not only that, smokers also suffer from decreased lung capacity along with their whole body being affected from the negative effects of smoking.

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Also, we have those cells that kill pathogens.
I beg to differ, adults generally speaking, shower more frequently than children. Children also often lack the proper understanding of hygiene and tend to touch everything with their dirty little hands.
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I have a question for the likes who may dabble in the medical profession. Now, the guy from BAG stated that kids under the age of 10 cannot be vectors of the disease because they lack the necessary receptors. Now, I'm confused, does cardboard have the required receptors? How is the virus supposed to exist on cardboard for up to 48h but somehow manages to slip away from kids under the age of 10?
This would also mean, that Covid19 is the only respiratory virus, where kids are not vectors.

Did Mr. Koch say that they do not have necessary receptors or necessary methods of transmitting the virus?

There was a recent work from a german virologist, which shows that kids statistically carry similar viral load than adults.

https://twitter.com/c_drosten/status...55995671150597


It means that they do have the same amount of virus inside, but since the symptoms in kids are much less severe than adults, the coughing and sneezing are also much less often --> do not release the virus to the surrounding (credit to Jorido).
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Did Mr. Koch say that they do not have necessary receptors or necessary methods of transmitting the virus?

There was a recent work from a german virologist, which shows that kids statistically carry similar viral load than adults.

https://twitter.com/c_drosten/status...55995671150597


It means that they do have the same amount of virus inside, but since the symptoms in kids are much less severe than adults, the coughing and sneezing are also much less often --> do not release the virus to the surrounding (credit to Jorido).
Children are in the process of building up immunity. Adults have already done that. The problem is that the adult reaction to a new virus such as Covid is an overreaction and too much fluid is produced to bind the virus. The lungs fill with this fluid and the person " drowns ". With children there is no overreaction as they are learning to cope with a new virus and the reaction is nowhere so strong as an adult
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I beg to differ, adults generally speaking, shower more frequently than children. Children also often lack the proper understanding of hygiene and tend to touch everything with their dirty little hands.
Aha. I think it depends. Taking a bath, though, is a whole different story. Kids could live in a bath and never get out.

Btw, changing the Koch's heart on kids being vectors and kids all of a sudden not being the vectors....I think it may be motivated by the wish to control the spread but not stop it. To expose while we have the hospital beds and staff capacity, since it is assumed that the general public not in much risk has already been somewhat exposed and will not need the beds now. That is just my theory. That and the fact that the elderly have not seen their families if they have them for two months and it is probably really bad for their immunity and spirit.
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Did Mr. Koch say that they do not have necessary receptors or necessary methods of transmitting the virus?

There was a recent work from a german virologist, which shows that kids statistically carry similar viral load than adults.

https://twitter.com/c_drosten/status...55995671150597


It means that they do have the same amount of virus inside, but since the symptoms in kids are much less severe than adults, the coughing and sneezing are also much less often --> do not release the virus to the surrounding (credit to Jorido).
He stated something along those lines, that they don't have the necessary receptors to get infected by the virus. Which is illogical IMO.

https://www.20min.ch/story/sind-kind...n-736485627643
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I beg to differ, adults generally speaking, shower more frequently than children. Children also often lack the proper understanding of hygiene and tend to touch everything with their dirty little hands.
Depends on the kid. Mine will happily spend hours in the bath and enjoy a shower. My 6 year old is brilliant at washing her hands "because of the virus".
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Sweden. No lockdown. Fewer infected than CH but a few more deaths. And thats with NO lockdown! And Sweden has greater population than CH
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