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What, the UK? "Lockdown to flatten the curve", then "Lockdown to protect the NHS" now "Lockdown until we have track and trace". "We follow the science!" they claimed and then just made up the rules as they went along!

People turning out like cultists every Thursday evening to clap the appalling NHS. Doctors and Nurses dancing in empty hospitals having discharged elderly patients to care homes where the virus has run riot. Cancer operations cancelled, the Nightingale hospitals stood empty. What a disaster from start to finish, and what an embarrassment
The actual UK pet, not the Daily Wail online extra outrage version.

The appalling NHS? Empty hospitals? Good grief you're either a frothbrained fool or bored to tears and stirring. I don't know why you're "mad", you know nothing of any real true value about the current UK situation.

Try the highest death rate in Europe, a government being controlled by an unelected puppet master and our youngest school-aged children being used as second wave guinea pigs.

But sure, keep regurgitating those clickbait headlines. You must be a second-rate journalist's idea of a wet dream.
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Old 25.05.2020, 16:17
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The conclusion reached by the ETH team who did the study was "The “lockdown light” decreed by the Swiss Federal Council has led to each person infected with Sars-CoV-2 going on to infect only one person on average instead of two or three prior to the lockdown.

Looking at the graphs will not change the ETH conclusion that it was the lockdown that was successful and reduced the infection rate.
Your opposite claim has no credibility.
"Lockdown LIGHT" the clue is in the name

I already covered this, but will post again for your benefit. The study shows that making people stay at home had minimal effect.

https://www.aargauerzeitung.ch/schwe...eben-137881160
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Old 25.05.2020, 16:18
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"Lockdown LIGHT" the clue is in the name

I already covered this, but will post again for your benefit. The study shows that making people stay at home had minimal effect.

https://www.aargauerzeitung.ch/schwe...eben-137881160
You need to stop. You have zero credibility about any of this. Seriously. None.
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Old 25.05.2020, 16:21
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I think you've bought into all those media headlines yourself! The guinea pigs are already there all across Europe as the youngest children have already headed back to school. My youngest fits this category and started back two weeks ago! There is minimal risk to young children, we know this but the hopeless media and politicians in the UK have resulted in people hiding behind their sofas afraid to send their children to school!

I hope you'll be out clapping on Thursday night, I'll be down at the pub!
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Old 25.05.2020, 16:22
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No, but the science does

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No, but the scientists do
You're just white noise. Bzzzzz...
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I think you've bought into all those media headlines yourself! The guinea pigs are already there all across Europe as the youngest children have already headed back to school. My youngest fits this category and started back two weeks ago! There is minimal risk to young children, we know this but the hopeless media and politicians in the UK have resulted in people hiding behind their sofas afraid to send their children to school!

I hope you'll be out clapping on Thursday night, I'll be down at the pub!
It's the risk to staff that's the issue but I suspect you've filed that as "other people's problem".

Again, the UK has the highest death rate in Europe.
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Old 25.05.2020, 16:35
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Why do you think that is? Largely because the infallible NHS was regarded as being more important than actual people. The government chose to protect the NHS rather than lives.
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Old 25.05.2020, 16:38
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...I hope you'll be out clapping on Thursday night, I'll be down at the pub!
Psst. The clapping isn't applauding how the government has handled the situation. It's to say thanks to the NHS workers who continue to give their all, day in and day out, with or without (often without) the necessary protective equipment.

You can go out and clap for the workers while still being appalled at how the government handled it all.
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Old 25.05.2020, 16:42
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"Lockdown LIGHT" the clue is in the name

I already covered this, but will post again for your benefit. The study shows that making people stay at home had minimal effect.

https://www.aargauerzeitung.ch/schwe...eben-137881160
The ETH conclusion was the lockdown was the game-changer, you have completely misunderstood or misrepresented the ETH study.
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Why do you think that is? Largely because the infallible NHS was regarded as being more important than actual people. The government chose to protect the NHS rather than lives.
Nope. Nope. And nope. Try again.

The government is all about protecting the money. The people don't matter.

But you know nothing about the UK. Stop pretending you do.
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Old 25.05.2020, 17:02
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"Lockdown LIGHT" the clue is in the name

I already covered this, but will post again for your benefit. The study shows that making people stay at home had minimal effect.

https://www.aargauerzeitung.ch/schwe...eben-137881160
Your basic problem is you do not understand what the graphs are showing us, an actual quote from the actual ETH study.
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The reproduction number was significantly higher than 1 until 13 March, which means that the number of infections increased exponentially in that phase.
With the intensified mitigation measures this number decreased further and finally stabilised at a value below 1, indicating a decline of the epidemic.
Or to put it more simple for you, the social distancing measures reduced the reproduction number but the additional measures were needed to reduce the reproduction number to a value below 1.
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Old 25.05.2020, 18:00
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Your basic problem is you do not understand what the graphs are showing us, an actual quote from the actual ETH study.


Or to put it more simple for you, the social distancing measures reduced the reproduction number but the additional measures were needed to reduce the reproduction number to a value below 1.
Oh dear, you can lead a horse to water and all that! Unfortunately I see you're defending this with the same level of zeal that you do the EU, or that you attack President Trump.

Here's another study for you to ignore:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...versioned=true

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Findings: Based on our model, we compare the effectiveness of NPIs up to now, i.e., in the early stages of the outbreak... School closures (8 %; 95% CrI 0-23 %) and lockdowns (5 %; 95% CrI 0-14 %) appear to be the least effective among the NPIs considered in this analysis.
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Old 25.05.2020, 18:09
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Psst. The clapping isn't applauding how the government has handled the situation. It's to say thanks to the NHS workers who continue to give their all, day in and day out, with or without (often without) the necessary protective equipment.

You can go out and clap for the workers while still being appalled at how the government handled it all.
Yup, clapping every Thursday evening at 8pm on the dot. Shaming of those that don't. Such peculiar behaviour, thanking care workers is one thing, a weekly ritual is just weird. Clapping doctors and nurses to dance around making TikTok videos in empty hospitals, clapping a failing dinosaur that hasn't procured enough PPE for its employees is insane!
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It would have been much more reasonable for people/media to use the word 'concerned' rather than pushing the word 'scared' all the time.
Cancer deaths will rocket next year as a result of all the fear mongering.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/im...yYa?li=BBnb7Kz


Blame Russia?
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It would have been much more reasonable for people/media to use the word 'concerned' rather than pushing the word 'scared' all the time.
Cancer deaths will rocket next year as a result of all the fear mongering.
One of your equal minded partners on this site tried its best to push the word panic tho...
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Coronavirus is largely a nosocomial disease where the vast majority deaths came from people infected in hospitals and care homes.
In reality people were told to stay home and not show up at a hospital unless, basically, told to do so by a doc.

The stupidity of this claim, coupled with your recurring lies, makes any kind of reasonable dialogue impossible.

I'm out.
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Old 25.05.2020, 21:09
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In reality people were told to stay home and not show up at a hospital unless, basically, told to do so by a doc.

The stupidity of this claim, coupled with your recurring lies, makes any kind of reasonable dialogue impossible.

I'm out.
You know there’s going to be inquiries soon? I’d put my house on them concluding that the majority of infections that resulted in deaths came from hospitals and care homes. You might want to retract your “stupidity” claim or you may (will) end Up with egg on your face!
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You know there’s going to be inquiries soon? I’d put my house on them concluding that the majority of infections that resulted in deaths came from hospitals and care homes. You might want to retract your “stupidity” claim or you may (will) end Up with egg on your face!
Good, What kind of house and where? And who will get it?
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