The UK daily new cases trend is rising, so not as rosy as you claim.

Reports along those lines abound around here as well.

And while I'm at it ....
Yet another blatant lie.

With 25.1k deaths, 2017/18 was the deadliest flu season in Germany of the last 30 years. According to the RKI the number of flu deaths can be as low as a few hundred.

gaburko, what TC posts isn't an opinion, it's a stream of lies.

It is simply beyond comprehension why TC's permanent stream of disinformation and lies hasn't been stopped ages ago.

I don't think the last part is a fair representation. The majority seems to be in this group, but I guess it's clear that zero deaths is neither an option for now nor a possibility without a vaccine. And whether we get one is yet to be seen, let alone when, and even more so what that may mean in terms of what's feasable.

It's impossible to have a fair discussion without an agreed upon factual basis. A continuous stream of lies and selective picking of data points will never do.

Vaud is anticipating a probable surge in cases according to Emergency staff - last few days have experienced increase in COVID profile patients & reinstatement of previous internal protocols for protection

Or so you say. But if you don't really believe in what you write here, what's the point?

Relax.

I suspect this user always writes what he believes until proven wrong, then he was just playing Devil's Advocate.

Is it not embarrassing for you when you post links to articles that don't back up what you're saying?

From page 48 of the paper (Chapter 5.3, Table 3), Excess deaths in Germany due to flu by year:

2008-2009 - 18,800
2012-2013 - 20,700
2014-2015 - 21,300
2016-2017 - 22,900
2017-2018 - 25,100

Admittedly my wording was incorrect, average number of deaths is not per year, rather during a bad flu season. Nevertheless, the point I was making DOESN'T CHANGE, it's absurd now that Mrs Merkel said that [sic] "Coronavirus is the greatest threat facing Germany since World War 2", when regularly there are many more flu deaths than the circa 9000 Coronavirus deaths to date.

See, I'm able to admit when I make an error, you (and a few others on here) should try it sometime or do I need to put your name together with baboon and marton who are seemingly desperate for a second wave of coronavirus to emerge just so they can be proven right?

https://edoc.rki.de/bitstream/handle...=1&isAllowed=y

The facts that each camp picks are selected by the subjective perception of the magnitude of the problem and hence, they merely re-enforce already embedded perceptions. For every Italy, there's a Switzerland so it's simply a matter of picking the one example that supports ones views Just like your behavior: you groan whenever you disagree, without trying to understand others views

A very strong case has been made in the Guardian against the lockdown. Differs from my view slightly, but correct nonetheless, it takes the line that even if the lockdown is an effective tool, it's not worth the cost.

https://www.theguardian.com/business...n-are-too-high

He sounds like Donald Trump, but with decent financial sense and DIY skills.

As self-appointed editor I'll put the comment above as "A very strong case has been made in the Guardian against the lockdown in the UK". Once you pin the opinion piece to an specific geographical and political entity, it's reasonable even if I don't agree.

Passengers arriving by plane from Sweden to CH subject to temperature checks since yesterday https://www.thelocal.ch/20200615/swi...rs-from-sweden

If temperature checks make sense, would it be optimal to do them before boarding the plane? What is precisely achieved if someone is detected after traveling 2 hours along the other passengers?

What is achieved is in case of infection there's a track and trace so people could be isolated.

In this case, all the other people on the plane would have to be isolated. And it doesn't take rocket science to track and trace the carrier of the disease and all the people s/he came into contact with in the last two hours when they've just stepped off a flight from Stockholm.

As Axa pointed out, surely it would be far more practical to detect the infection before the carrier steps on board and potentially infects others on the aeroplane.

The lockdown is going to get blamed for an awful lot of things in order to distract from the disastrous policies that have been pursued over recent years; financial deregulation, Austerity, Brexit to name but a few.
"Not worth the cost": speak for yourself, I doubt the "silent majority" is with you.

Surely it's much better to not have COVID at all and surely it's much better for all of us to be millionaires. But given the fact that we don't live in a perfect world, and Switzerland can't impose rules on other countries and airport authorities, this is the best they can do. Again, not bad, Swiss authorities responses so far are proving to be spot on despite the hysterical screaming by some here

I know a temperature check before boarding is not politically feasible because it would make the policies applied in Sweden look very bad. If temperature is checked before boarding, Swedish citizens would immediately ask why to local authorities. Much easier to blame it on the quirkiness of the destination country.

Since CH cannot control what happens in Sweden, all left to do is to check temperatures at arrival. My only point is that medical concerns are secondary to political concerns. Maybe Tony Cliffton is right, those politicians in Sweden cannot admit a mistake

As far as I know, there is no barrier whatsoever to temperature checks being taken in the country of embarkation. Border guards from Australia check the passports of passengers embarking for Sydney in Singapore; why not have somebody -- a Swiss government employee, an airline representative, an airport employee -- check temperatures in Stockholm?

On a second thought, high body temperature is a poor proxy of covid19. Denying boarding to someone for high body temp probably conflicts with some freedom protection law. Maybe, the temp check at arrival is all that can be done under the current legal framework.

PS. such a low bar for hysterical screaming, WE'RE NOT EVEN WRITING IN LARGE CAPS AROUND HERE