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Re: Coronavirus

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Scientists in China have found that flushing the toilet with the lid up creates a cloud of spray that can be breathed in and may spread infection, such as coronavirus.

Droplets can travel up to 3ft (91cm) from ground level, according to the computer model used by the scientists from Yangzhou University.

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Old 17.06.2020, 09:57
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Fake news mate. You do have a problem with facts.
Is that what you say to everything when you can't accept the truth?

It's 80% in Switzerland and the UK.

https://www.ch.ch/en/short-time-work/

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Breaking news!!


Scientists in China have found that flushing the toilet with the lid up creates a cloud of spray that can be breathed in and may spread infection, such as coronavirus.

Droplets can travel up to 3ft (91cm) from ground level, according to the computer model used by the scientists from Yangzhou University.

Oh shit!
Now which scientist is going to come up with the solution of simply shutting the lid when flushing?! Has the Coronavirus had an effect on people's common sense too?!
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Old 17.06.2020, 10:26
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Has the Coronavirus had an effect on people's common sense too?!
Mainly on common sense actually! As if this thread is not a proof that seemingly intelligent human beings reaching absurd conclusions simply due to the avalanche of media hype and inability to work with numbers? Speaks volumes about the need to limit voting rights and move away from the one person one vote
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Old 17.06.2020, 11:26
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Re: Coronavirus

Awesome news!!! Trump has announced his prediction that the same brilliant group of minds that came up with the AIDS vaccine will also produce a "vaccine, therapeutic and cure" for COVID-19 by the end of the year.

I hope the US can make this new vaccine as widely available as the AIDS vaccine.

(In the same speech, which featured a lot of slurred words, Trump also referred to "hundreds of governors" in the United 50 States of America.)

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Old 17.06.2020, 11:29
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Awesome news!!!
And yet, this is indeed the perceived reality in fly-over country, aka Trump states. His reality bending ability is funny on the forums, but actually pretty damn scary
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Old 17.06.2020, 11:35
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And yet, this is indeed the perceived reality in fly-over country, aka Trump states. His reality bending ability is funny on the forums, but actually pretty damn scary

Calling it a vaccine is indeed a bit misleading. What Trump meant was that you can protect yourself from Covid-19 the same way like you protect yourself from AIDS: you need to wear a balloon in public.
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Old 17.06.2020, 11:44
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Now which scientist is going to come up with the solution of simply shutting the lid when flushing?! Has the Coronavirus had an effect on people's common sense too?!
Well, you never know, some people might think that their poop doesn't smell.
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Old 17.06.2020, 11:49
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My verdict after seeing years of his posts is that fatmanfilms opinion can almost invariably be discounted on anything except practical topics about making money or doing DIY etc. Otherwise, in other topics he seemingly has negligible levels of human compassion, empathy or ethics and little desire to engage intellectually.
It's great that a few people can make objective decisions based on the information, rather than let emotions get in the way.

On the subject of investing how is your portfolio doing?
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Old 17.06.2020, 12:13
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Same goes for lifting it too early. There are very few new cases in the UK now other than in care homes and hospitals. The argument for continuing the lockdown is flimsy at best. If there is no spike following the last two weekends of protests then I think we can finally put the lockdown argument to bed.
I think you should notice that most people here do care about Switzerland first. I think the Swiss government has done a very good job so far, it's not even an opinion it's simply measurable. We'll see how things will go from now on after so many travelling restrictions are lifted but I'm sure they'll react and take the best decisions even earlier if need be.

Reality is most countries can't afford a second round of lockdown or emergency state etc. So I understand their prudence.
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Old 17.06.2020, 12:32
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I think you should notice that most people here do care about Switzerland first.
Indeed, I already have Facebook and twitter to worry about problems at home

Back to CH, the last forecast for economic conditions induced by the virus around the world was published yesterday https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/swiss-e...-1975/45830944

Unemployment may rise to 3.8% later this year, up from 2.3% average from 2019. The working population in CH is around 5.1 million (2018), therefore an increase in unemployment of 1.5% means 76,500 jobs lost before the end of the year, 70K troubled households

However, two caveats: (i) this is a forecast for the 2nd half of 2020 and later, the outcome can be better or worse, and (ii) the forecast relies on the assumption of no second wave of covid19 infections.

The virus is a global problem that reduces demand. If Switzerland have decided unilaterally to keep everything open, I think nothing would have been achieved beyond doubling or tripling the body count. After our largest trade partners slowed down, there's little left to do. It's going to be a wild ride. Keep the boring job while it lasts and save cash for bad days.
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Old 17.06.2020, 12:40
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Indeed, I already have Facebook and twitter to worry about problems at home
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I have removed them from my list of social media "guilty pleasures" almost completely, enough is enough.

I sometimes watch tv debates but I look very carefully who are those who were invited. Tv and newspapers are still do-able if you're very selective. (and I mean in general)
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A mathematical reason why antibody tests give really uncertain information:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...56bed-45049313
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Old 18.06.2020, 13:34
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Re: Coronavirus

The plot below is from corona-data.ch By the end of April the guy behind the site made the uncertainty of the recent data, and today that I looked there's even a moving average (7 days?).



Since the last week of may there have 10-20 new cases per day. The plot at this time is interesting because international flights resumed 3 days ago. If there's no new case growth on 2 weeks (June 30), it may be the time to celebrate.
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Old 18.06.2020, 15:53
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Is that what you say to everything when you can't accept the truth?

It's 80% in Switzerland and the UK.

https://www.ch.ch/en/short-time-work/

https://www.theguardian.com/money/20...ther-countries

Now which scientist is going to come up with the solution of simply shutting the lid when flushing?! Has the Coronavirus had an effect on people's common sense too?!
A simpler solution might be to always visit the toilet alone? Not wishing to disturb anyones social life.
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Old 18.06.2020, 15:59
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...Now which scientist is going to come up with the solution of simply shutting the lid when flushing?! Has the Coronavirus had an effect on people's common sense too?!
Except in many public places such as restaurants, stores, and airports there are no lids to close. Heck, some don't even have seats!

Actually that's worked to my advantage numerous times over the years when traveling. Too many squeamish Western ladies that would not go near the squat toilets so I was able to bypass the queue. I guess none of those ladies had ever been camping.
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Old 18.06.2020, 16:02
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The plot below is from corona-data.ch By the end of April the guy behind the site made the uncertainty of the recent data, and today that I looked there's even a moving average (7 days?).



Since the last week of may there have 10-20 new cases per day. The plot at this time is interesting because international flights resumed 3 days ago. If there's no new case growth on 2 weeks (June 30), it may be the time to celebrate.
Thanks for this graph, wasn't there someone here claiming the increase in new cases had faded to almost nothing when the Swiss lockdown was announced 13/16 March?
Or maybe your graph is wrong
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Old 18.06.2020, 16:19
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In Germany’s western state of North Rhein Westphalia, around 7,000 people have been placed in quarantine and schools and kindergartens have been closes after an outbreak of coronavirus.

The spread is believed to have come from Tönnies, a meat processing plant in Rheda-Wiedenbrück, where there have been 657 confirmed cases of the virus.
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Old 18.06.2020, 16:38
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Thanks for this graph, wasn't there someone here claiming the increase in new cases had faded to almost nothing when the Swiss lockdown was announced 13/16 March?
Or maybe your graph is wrong

Around March 16 or 17th when the soft lockdown was implemented things looked awful. New cases kept growing alarmingly fast during that week (march 16-22), and stabilized during the next week (march 23-29). A real drop in new cases was observable only until the end of the first week of April but still high. Only until the 2nd week of April the things started to look under control. So, the scariest part was from March 16 to April 16.
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Except in many public places such as restaurants, stores, and airports there are no lids to close. Heck, some don't even have seats!

Actually that's worked to my advantage numerous times over the years when traveling. Too many squeamish Western ladies that would not go near the squat toilets so I was able to bypass the queue. I guess none of those ladies had ever been camping.
The simple solution to that is to say that restaurants and stores and airports can't open unless they fit toilet lids. It's worked with 2m spaced tables and perspex screening, no reason it shouldn't work for toilet lids.
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Only 6% of train commuters wear the optional mask yet no second wave in Switzerland?
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