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Re: Coronavirus

Doctor shows how wearing a mask does not affect oxygen levels

You don't see doctors and dentists collapsing from lack of oxygen, do you?
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Old 07.07.2020, 11:47
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Re: Coronavirus

An article in 20 Minutes suggesting that companies are threatening employees with dismissal if they attend Nightclubs. Furthermore if an individual contracts the virus whilst attending a Club or through irresponsible action, then said individual will not be protected against dismissal under employment law.

https://www.20min.ch/story/viele-gae...n-584969732937
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Old 07.07.2020, 12:27
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So now people will start getting respiratory infections. By wearing masks one breaths back in a part of what one breathed out-CO2. Can't be good in the long term
Sounds better to me than using COVID-19-damaged lungs operating at 40% capacity to attempt to extract enough oxygen from the air to survive.

But you go right ahead and ignore medical advice. It's your right. I'm glad I'm not one of your patients, though.
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Old 07.07.2020, 12:37
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Doctor shows how wearing a mask does not affect oxygen levels

You don't see doctors and dentists collapsing from lack of oxygen, do you?
Labourers working hard on building sites with cutting, sanding or grinding tools seem to manage too.
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An article in 20 Minutes suggesting that companies are threatening employees with dismissal if they attend Nightclubs. Furthermore if an individual contracts the virus whilst attending a Club or through irresponsible action, then said individual will not be protected against dismissal under employment law.

https://www.20min.ch/story/viele-gae...n-584969732937
Can only find this logical after what happened with the clubs over the last days, imagine having a company and somebody goes to a club and works for some days and than develops the symptoms and tests positive, if you're in bad luck you can close your entire company for one or two weeks.
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Old 07.07.2020, 13:57
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Re: Coronavirus

Sounds all a bit theoretical. Who would tell an employer that you needed to quarantine because you have been hanging out at a "balkan club"? And then, as long as nightclubs are open legally because apparently their "Schutzkonzept" works, difficult to see how one use this as an argument to fire someone. Then again, you can be fired anyhow for anything (and then it is just a question whether this was "ungerechtfertigt" in which case you can some salary still, but your job will still be gone).
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Old 07.07.2020, 18:51
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Re: Coronavirus

Couldn't happen to a nicer person.

"Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro Tests Positive For Coronavirus"

Source: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jair-...b6e97b56890c81
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Couldn't happen to a nicer person.

"Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro Tests Positive For Coronavirus"

Source: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jair-...b6e97b56890c81
He doesn't need to worry. After all, it's just a simple flu.
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Old 07.07.2020, 21:30
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He doesn't need to worry. After all, it's just a simple flu.
If he gets through it easily within 8 days, he will take that as proof, could make things a lot worse for people in Brazil. So not sure what to wish him.
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Old 07.07.2020, 22:02
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If he gets through it easily within 8 days, he will take that as proof, could make things a lot worse for people in Brazil. So not sure what to wish him.
He is 65 years old so not starting from a good position plus karma.

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Another Trump impersonator falls by the wayside.

Meanwhile, forty-three Florida hospital intensive care units (ICUs) across 21 counties have reached capacity as coronavirus cases in the Sunshine State surge, according to new data from the Agency for Health Administration.

I am sure they have a plan B.
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Old 08.07.2020, 09:03
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Re: Coronavirus

The lockdown could result in an additional 35,000 deaths in the UK from cancer alone. More evidence of the unbelievable amount of damage that the lockdown caused!

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53300784
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Another way of looking at the growth of COVID-19 cases, copyright NYTimes, see graph.
US government failing badly in its duty to protect US citizens.

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It isn't the US government failing, it's the stupidity of your average US citizen. They are arguing with the government about wearing masks even, let alone shutting down shops and services. It Darwin @ macro scale. Asian communities have been raised from birth to work with each other, US kids are taught to be free thinkers.

Free thinking in covid-19 apocalypse doesn't work; around 10% of the US population will be die or be seriously affected by this unless a vaccine comes to the rescue, is that going to happen? I don't know...

China whom America and Europe has pumped billions into their economy over the past twenty years will be the new super power in the next 5 years at this rate, the US will like the UK only less cause their talk talk but don't walk the walk. Then we'll all have to adjust to the new new, where you cannot voice an opinion like this without worrying being about the secret police arrested and thrown into jail for subversion.

Or will they, will the US wake up to the stupid behaviour of their mega corporations and cut the money river off to to China. Does China have enough money to be become self sustaining without the US. Trump although an idiot in many ways has seen the light and is pushing to try to reduce the losses.

We all need to work together, but Europe and the US needs to understand that THAT isn't China's plan. They have the copied the US template and sharpened it in the process. They are VERY good businessmen. They'll work together until it no longer suites them doing so, then they'll cut us free and walk all over us.

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The lockdown could result in an additional 35,000 deaths in the UK from cancer alone. More evidence of the unbelievable amount of damage that the lockdown caused!

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53300784
But if there hadn't been a lock-down, and the NHS had been overloaded with COVID-19 cases, there would have been much less capacity in the NHS to diagnose and treat patients with cancer and that figure of 35, 000 could possibly have been much higher.
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Old 08.07.2020, 09:41
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The lockdown could result in an additional 35,000 deaths in the UK from cancer alone. More evidence of the unbelievable amount of damage that the lockdown caused!

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53300784
1. 'Could' being the operative word.
2. GP's were available throughout. Fear of covid was the factor.
3. My best mate's dad in the UK has been having his fortnightly chemo throughout lockdown. He's shielded because he's been having chemo for 4yrs and needs it for the rest of his life which could be 10+yrs, but that hasn't prevented his chemo.
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But if there hadn't been a lock-down, and the NHS had been overloaded with COVID-19 cases, there would have been much less capacity in the NHS to diagnose and treat patients with cancer and that figure of 35, 000 could possibly have been much higher.
There’s a lot of “ifs” at the moment. The indications are at the moment that more deaths were caused by “protecting the NHS”, otherwise why would the UK have the highest number of deaths in Europe?

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1. 'Could' being the operative word.
2. GP's were available throughout. Fear of covid was the factor.
3. My best mate's dad in the UK has been having his fortnightly chemo throughout lockdown. He's shielded because he's been having chemo for 4yrs and needs it for the rest of his life which could be 10+yrs, but that hasn't prevented his chemo.
Agree on the fear part. Media hype and the government messaging has meant that people, especially the vulnerable, were scared to seek help when they needed it. Such a frenzy has been whipped up in the UK that even now people are scared to return to work or send their kids back to school (but going to the pub and beach is safe )
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The indications are at the moment that more deaths were caused by “protecting the NHS”, otherwise why would the UK have the highest number of deaths in Europe?
Can you link us to those indications?
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Many were discharged from hospitals into care homes without coronavirus tests. This was done to make space for an influx of patients that never materialised. At the same time patients with the virus were sent to care homes where it was spread to those most at risk. There’s enough evidence to see that this happened, the only open question is how many unnecessary deaths and infections this disastrous strategy caused.

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Old 08.07.2020, 12:15
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1. 'Could' being the operative word.
2. GP's were available throughout. Fear of covid was the factor.
3. My best mate's dad in the UK has been having his fortnightly chemo throughout lockdown. He's shielded because he's been having chemo for 4yrs and needs it for the rest of his life which could be 10+yrs, but that hasn't prevented his chemo.
I thought people could only have a certain amount of chemo, twice a month for possibly 14 years, are you sure?
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