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Friday meets Corona: the Japanese robot fans





It's like one of those 80s games from Konami is mixed with the Clone Wars. The visiting team must be utterly demoralized when seeing such fans.
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Old 10.07.2020, 09:55
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Interesting reading for any lockdown fans. Severity of lockdown has led to no correlation with number of excess deaths in Europe,

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2...ths-recession/
and here is a proper scientific peer-reviewed study showing lockdown saved many lives.
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Old 10.07.2020, 09:57
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Honestly? I haven't seen TC get into any slagging matches and name calling.
That's the remit of the woke brigade on here.

Pot calling the kettle BAME.
Honestly? I think this is the prerogative of the anti-"woke brigade here" brigade. I don't know who are you nominating here and just to be clear, don't want to know.

I, for one, am not calling anyone anything unless "favours" must be returned. There's a limit to tolerance...
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Honestly? I think this is the prerogative of the anti-"woke brigade here". I don't know who are you nominating here and just to be clear, don't want to know.

I, for one, am not calling anyone anything unless favours must be returned.
Honestly? It looked to me like you are trying to 'cancel' TC, as one of the last dissenters, and claim the thread as victory for the alt-left.
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Honestly? It looked to me like you are trying to 'cancel' TC, as one of the last dissenters, and claim the thread as victory for the alt-left.
It looks to me there's a campaign against posters who are aware of the necessity of the lockdown measures in regards with covid-19 pandemic and keeping most of the rules even after the lockdown measures were lifted.


If you call these people "alt-left" just so you intimidate and claim victory for, I suppose, the alt-right, knock yourself out.
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Old 10.07.2020, 10:10
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Honestly? It looked to me like you are trying to 'cancel' TC, as one of the last dissenters, and claim the thread as victory for the alt-left.
A victory for facts over perceptions; but not really a victory for anyone with so many decent people dying or severely disabled.
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So if you're pro-lockdown you are alt-left? To me the lockdown discussion in Switzerland is not really left or right orientated.

I'm pro lockdown, hate the alt-left and am beyond any doubt right-winged myself.

What now?
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Old 10.07.2020, 10:31
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I'm pro lockdown, hate the alt-left and am beyond any doubt right-winged myself.

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Don't worry, it's just a random insult thrown at people who have different views on a variety of subjects, but especially on this one (lockdown and the way this pandemic was handled). Coming from CodePeace and the likes doesn't really tell anything about you or whoever might be on their "list"...

As said on a different thread - many/some of us were accused of being both"alt-left" and "alt-right", sometimes even on the same thread or subject......Nothing new here.

It's the fact that people have an opinion or a reaction to some nonsense that drives them nuts.
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Old 10.07.2020, 14:31
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How?
They have the choice between two great-grandfathers - oh and maybe a tv-reality show star.
Who ever they chose, the two parties will spend 95% of it's time/effort on bashing each other, leaves little time to correct above mentioned problems.

Even if they get the perfect president candidate out of the blue - and actually vote them in - the entire system seems in need of reinvention.
Well...if you want to think a bit morbidly, just look instead a the veep candidates and ignore the presidential ones since it's entirely possible that whoever becomes the next president, his veep will take over. This election more so than any in recent memory, the phrase "a heartbeat from the presidency" is relevant.

On the Republican side, Pence is only 61.

Biden's top choices (according to the media, anyway) are:
Kamala Harris, 55
Tammy Duckworth, 52
Keisha Lance-Bottoms, 50
Michelle Lujan Grisham, 60
Val Demings, 63
Michelle Obama, 56 (she's said she's not interested but hey ho)

Stacey Abrams is only 46, so imo she's not experienced enough for Biden to choose her.

IMO Elizabeth Warren is clearly out, as she's 71. Biden could throw her a Cabinet position instead.

And Kanye is not a legit candidate with any sort of chance. He's a media distraction.

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And Kanye is not a legit candidate with any sort of chance. He's a media distraction.

People said the same about Trump
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Old 10.07.2020, 14:54
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Re: Coronavirus

Yesterday, the US Johns Hopkins reported 63,247 new confirmed cases and 990 deaths.

A new daily record of new cases, Texas and Florida with the most.
Sadly over the last three days, US deaths have varied between 820 and 1,195 so the days of few/declining US deaths seem to be over.
With the current US death rate of over 4% of reported cases, these new cases could result in daily deaths of over 2,000.

People making the ultimate sacrifice for Trump's reelection quest; based on the too early cessation of lockdown pushed by Trump to improve the economy and hence his chances of reelection.
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True, but there's a distinct difference. Trump registered with the Federal Elections Commission and got his name on the ballot in all 50 states as per the rules.

As I mentioned up-thread, Kanye doesn't have a chance to be a legit 3rd party, independent, or write-in candidate simply because deadlines have passed and are rapidly passing.

Trying to keep somewhat on-topic: Why do folks suppose it is that Switzerland has opened up so much and yet our cases are not going nuts like in the USA? Are people more responsible? Are we not testing enough? Numbers are going up a little but not on the same scale.
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Old 10.07.2020, 15:04
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Trying to keep somewhat on-topic: Why do folks suppose it is that Switzerland has opened up so much and yet our cases are not going nuts like in the USA? Are people more responsible? Are we not testing enough? Numbers are going up a little but not on the same scale.

No idea but then most people I know avoid crowds, do not go to clubs, try to avoid public transport etc etc. In principle same behaviour as during the lockdown.
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Old 10.07.2020, 15:13
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True, but there's a distinct difference. Trump registered with the Federal Elections Commission and got his name on the ballot in all 50 states as per the rules.

As I mentioned up-thread, Kanye doesn't have a chance to be a legit 3rd party, independent, or write-in candidate simply because deadlines have passed and are rapidly passing.

Trying to keep somewhat on-topic: Why do folks suppose it is that Switzerland has opened up so much and yet our cases are not going nuts like in the USA? Are people more responsible? Are we not testing enough? Numbers are going up a little but not on the same scale.
Well, firstly a number of States ignored the White House advice and opened up too soon while existing cases were too high.
Secondly, my perception is that many more US people are actively against masks and social distancing plus the rural areas believed it was a "city thing"

This is my opinion so no sources.
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Old 10.07.2020, 15:21
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Well...if you want to think a bit morbidly, just look instead a the veep candidates and ignore the presidential ones since it's entirely possible that whoever becomes the next president, his veep will take over. This election more so than any in recent memory, the phrase "a heartbeat from the presidency" is relevant more than ever.....
Ah! There is a new perspective to have a closer look from then.

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Of course I wouldn't know either but I guess it's because people realize life has to go back to normal but can't go all the way back there yet. So we do what we gotta do (and are happy we can) while keeping the precautions we learnt about during the past months. Common sense lets people decide which things are worth the risk and which aren't. To me that would be discos, open air festivals, movies, "Hundsverlochete" (funfairs), trams ..... very easy for me, as I generally hate being in crowds.
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I asked myself the same. It is not due to less testing activity. BAG now also publishes the daily number of PCR tests, and it is around 10000 every day. I think in March/April it was not more on average. So positiviy rate is around 1% now.

Miami yesterday reported positivity rate of 33.5% ...
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Trying to keep somewhat on-topic: Why do folks suppose it is that Switzerland has opened up so much and yet our cases are not going nuts like in the USA? Are people more responsible? Are we not testing enough? Numbers are going up a little but not on the same scale.
Based on the rolling 7-days total, daily new test-positives in the US have gone up by 125% since the numbers started to rise again 3 weeks ago, vs +240% in CH. Of course the absolute number of new positives is much lower around here, but that's thanks to the long lockdown and may be subject to change anytime: CH's reproduction rate is ~1.4 (according to Tagesanzeiger) vs ~1.2 in the US (my guess based on worldometers data for the 50 states).

That said, the US are testing far less than they should as roughly 10% of the tests are positive according to Vox. Switzerland's test-positive rate was 10-15% during the peak from mid-March thru mid-April, it's ~1% currently.

So, depending on how you look at it, you could just as well say that the numbers around here are going much more nuts.
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Based on the rolling 7-days total, daily new test-positives in the US have gone up by 125% since the numbers started to rise again 3 weeks ago, vs +240% in CH. Of course the absolute number of new positives is much lower around here, but that's thanks to the long lockdown and may be subject to change anytime: CH's reproduction rate is ~1.4 (according to Tagesanzeiger) vs ~1.2 in the US (my guess based on worldometers data for the 50 states).

That said, the US are testing far less than they should as roughly 10% of the tests are positive according to Vox. Switzerland's test-positive rate was 10-15% during the peak from mid-March thru mid-April, it's ~1% currently.

So, depending on how you look at it, you could just as well say that the numbers around here are going much more nuts.
Well. I still rather be in nutty Switzerland than in Houston, Miami, Phoenix right now.
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Well. I still rather be in nutty Switzerland than in Houston, Miami, Phoenix right now.
That's an unfair comparison
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No idea but then most people I know avoid crowds, do not go to clubs, try to avoid public transport etc etc. In principle same behaviour as during the lockdown.
Yes. And the moment people don't see the point in respecting these rules anymore we too will have the same problems some countries seem to be confronted with as we speak. It's when people don't wear masks and don't distance from each other anymore as a result of constant, relentless misinformation campaigns. Some mass manipulation techniques seem right from the Sputnik's and KGB's tool cabinet.
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