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Please, please, please...read, think, then engage fingers.

COVID-19 wasn't a thing before 2019, but COVID certainly was as it is a generic portmanteau of Coronavirus and Disease dating back to the 30s.
Those people in the UK who replied to newspaper adverts in the 1950's, 60's & 70's to be infected with 'the common cold' on an
all expenses paid holiday ( in the interests of medical research ) helped towards our understanding of Human coronavirus's.

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Human coronavirus's, which are responsible for about 10% of common colds, were first isolated from volunteers at the unit in 1965.

UK's Common Cold Unit near Salisbury 1946 to 1989


Here's more on the Common Cold Units revelations of the first Coronavirus ( but not Covid I hasten to add ) from the
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Science museum - revealing the first Coronavirus
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Old 01.09.2020, 23:35
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Ahh right, so you are just making the "next to zero" assessment up then. What a surprise.
No, I am concluding from facts. The source I referred to (Michael Osterholm, CIDRAP) confirms what I said. You were probably too lazy to look into it. The question was about nonsensical mask requirements in a resto setting. You interfered by twisting my tongue. I call BS.
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Old 01.09.2020, 23:44
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Try again, after reading.
The cartoon clearly says COVID-19, which Olygirl referenced as COVID, a common Kurzname, when claiming it didn't exist before 2019, which is true. So, try again after reading and cut the pedantic snark.
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Old 02.09.2020, 00:01
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Come on, Hart Moss. You must have something better to do in your life than splitting hairs and relying on pedantry to justify your arguments. How about focusing your energy instead on getting fit, climbing mountains, learning German or taking courses to improve your job skills? If you prefer gaming, schieber.ch is a fantastic jass (Swiss cards) site where you can play with fellow Swiss from all over the world.
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COVID-19 wasn't a thing before 2019, but COVID certainly was as it is a generic portmanteau of Coronavirus and Disease dating back to the 30s.
Where did you read that? As far as I know, "COVID" (indeed a portmanteau) was coined by the WHO (the health people, not the band) just this year. Even the term "coronavirus" wasn't coined until 1968.

It is true that coronaviruses were first described in 1931. But the names are much younger, and COVID (with or without the year suffix) isn't even a toddler yet.
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Old 02.09.2020, 00:44
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COVID-19 wasn't a thing before 2019, but COVID certainly was as it is a generic portmanteau of Coronavirus and Disease dating back to the 30s.
Do you have any actual examples of the use of the word "COVID" before 2019?
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Re: Coronavirus

HartMoss is going to have to speak up to drown out all the crickets. The naming convention for coronavirus prior to 2019 was indeed a prefix-acronym of symptoms (MERS, SARS, etc) followed by CoV for acute symptoms, or for mild symptoms such as common cold, an H for human followed by CoV and a reference to other characteristics like genome, kingdom, etc.

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Do you have any actual examples of the use of the word "COVID" before 2019?
Before 2020, even. The disease (the current pandemic) and the current novel coronavirus weren't named until 11 February of this year—COVID-19 (the first use of the term "COVID", which was coined for this disease) and SARS-CoV-2, respectively.
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Come on, Hart Moss. You must have something better to do in your life than splitting hairs and relying on pedantry to justify your arguments. How about focusing your energy instead on getting fit, climbing mountains, learning German or taking courses to improve your job skills? If you prefer gaming, schieber.ch is a fantastic jass (Swiss cards) site where you can play with fellow Swiss from all over the world.
With the greatest respect, I think I’ll avoid taking advice on how to live my best life from someone who is posting on internet forums at 11pm.
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With the greatest respect, I think I’ll avoid taking advice on how to live my best life from someone who is posting on internet forums at 11pm.
You can always tell when someone are wrong and backed into a corner when they lash out with some petty and meaningless insult. Don't worry old chap, it happens to the best of us now and then... but some more than others.
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With the greatest respect, I think I’ll avoid taking advice on how to live my best life from someone who is posting on internet forums at 11pm.
It was 11.01 pm.
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You can always tell when someone are wrong and backed into a corner when they lash out with some petty and meaningless insult. Don't worry old chap, it happens to the best of us now and then... but some more than others.
Regarding the main point, there have been many coronavirus diseases (e.g. SARS), even in recent memory before 2019, so coronavirus disease, or covid, has indeed been a thing for a long time.
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Regarding the main point, there have been many coronavirus diseases (e.g. SARS), even in recent memory before 2019, so coronavirus disease, or covid, has indeed been a thing for a long time.

Seriously? Give it up, admit defeat, move on.
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Regarding the main point, there have been many coronavirus diseases (e.g. SARS), even in recent memory before 2019, so coronavirus disease, or covid, has indeed been a thing for a long time.
There have been other Coronavirus diseases, but they were not called COVID. This entire argument is an exercise in pedantism that could have been stopped quickly. However, instead of diffuse this little tiff you went full mental and started being somewhat inexplicably (even by my standards) obnoxious and insufferable to the point where it all escalated to this. Impressive work.
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There have been other Coronavirus diseases, but they were not called COVID. This entire argument is an exercise in pedantism that could have been stopped quickly. However, instead of diffuse this little tiff you went full mental and started being somewhat inexplicably (even by my standards) obnoxious and insufferable to the point where it all escalated to this. Impressive work.
You may have had a valid point if OG had written “The term COVID wasn’t a thing until 2019” (also wrong incidentally, as 22Y pointed out), but sadly she didn’t and that is why you are both incorrect. A point of pedantry? Maybe, but this forum needs a bit of accuracy, I’ve found.
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Old 02.09.2020, 10:05
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A point of pedantry? Maybe, but this forum needs a bit of accuracy, I’ve found.
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Old 02.09.2020, 10:10
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Regarding the main point, there have been many coronavirus diseases (e.g. SARS), even in recent memory before 2019, so coronavirus disease, or covid, has indeed been a thing for a long time.
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You may have had a valid point if OG had written “The term COVID wasn’t a thing until 2019” (also wrong incidentally, as 22Y pointed out), but sadly she didn’t and that is why you are both incorrect. A point of pedantry? Maybe, but this forum needs a bit of accuracy, I’ve found.
As you are requesting accuracy, firstly please note COVID is always written in capitals.
Secondly the name of the current pandemic virus is COVID-19 sometimes shortened to COVID. COVID (or covid as you write) is not a synonym for coronavirus disease and was never used before 2020 as you claim.

Incidentally COVID-19 disease was around in 2019, or even earlier according to some sources, so although the name was only coined in 2020 it is correct to use it to describe cases that occurred before 2020.
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Coronavirus claims another victim. RIP „Guest“...
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So... how are people deleting their accounts so easily? Is it a new setting in Vbulletin or are they just PM'ing Editor Bob?
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Old 02.09.2020, 10:55
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So... how are people deleting their accounts so easily? Is it a new setting in Vbulletin or are they just PM'ing Editor Bob?
You thinking of out? I think it's emailing a mod or Editor Bob.

I wonder if this will be a cycle of old members quitting, rejoining as a new name and quitting again after a few months.
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