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Or brush your teeth
Less than half of the worlds population brush their teeth, it's a first world trend. Then if you live on less than $1 a day you have other things to worry about.
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this is the most important point coming out of the FT article.

Just like crossing the road is dangerous, so is breathing and being around other people. It demands some common sense from people with symptoms to avoid infecting others and from those others to manage risks too, often with masks.

If you're like me, I've been avoiding touching things like lift buttons, door handles, escalator and stair banisters. Heck, I even have waited in the WC of a bar or restaurant for the next person to come in so that I don't have to touch the door (where paper towels are not available)

The hardest thing is to try to guide a helpless teenager who touches everything and constantly has his hands on or near his face......
Honestly, not really. Takes a high exposure, canton with higher numbers and a bit of time for adjustment and young people are fast and on board with the risk assessment. Suprisingly, since the other risks often don't really hit home for a while. But here youngins play by the rules and have a lot of empathy for those in risk. Takes a lot of self-effacement, prioritizing others. Proud of them, coz life doesn't wait and they are not built for tolerating anxiety for long.

Not easy to have long days and actively learn with half of face covered and feel the lack of fresh air on one's face, etc. Hands take also quite long to adjust to not touch, but then there are rituals to help, constant desks/pc cleaning, etc. Makes people more aware. Cleaning troops walking around wiping hand rails, light buttons, door handles..it is pedagogical, aside of necessary.
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The hardest thing is to try to guide a helpless teenager who touches everything and constantly has his hands on or near his face......
I thought for a moment you meant toddler....even preschoolers can be (to a certain degree) trained.
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Honestly, not really. Takes a high exposure, canton with higher numbers and a bit of time for adjustment and young people are fast and on board with the risk assessment. Suprisingly, since the other risks often don't really hit home for a while. But here youngins play by the rules and have a lot of empathy for those in risk. Takes a lot of self-effacement, prioritizing others. Proud of them, coz life doesn't wait and they are not built for tolerating anxiety for long.

Not easy to have long days and actively learn with half of face covered and feel the lack of fresh air on one's face, etc. Hands take also quite long to adjust to not touch, but then there are rituals to help, constant desks/pc cleaning, etc. Makes people more aware. Cleaning troops walking around wiping hand rails, light buttons, door handles..it is pedagogical, aside of necessary.
for the teenager in question, it's a pre-COVID habit, especially biting his nails. He's actually super with the mask and better at washing his hands (but still needs pushing to put his phone down, not get a drink, etc before washing his hands).

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for the teenager in question, it's a pre-COVID habit, especially biting his nails. He's actually super with the mask and better at washing his hands (but still needs pushing to put his phone down, not get a drink, etc before washing his hands).

How about nail varnish, black, dark blue or dark green is en vogue for boys. It will remind him. Or the ID tag around the wrist saying my hands are beautiful, no biting. The cell needs a sticker with a proper lab germs analysis. Ewww. The germiest of all germs. More than public toilet seats.

But if you want a good habit, attach it to a reward or a trigger, create a sequence (coming home, leaving home, opening a school bag, taking shoes off/on, etc). Aldi sells a giant box of gummy candy (5fr). I know coz it sits in my pantry. Since yesterday.
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How about nail varnish, black, dark blue or dark green is en vogue for boys. It will remibd him. Or the ID tag around the wrist saying my hands are beautiful, no biting. The cell needs a sticker with a proper lab germs analysis. Ewww. The germiest of all germs. More than public toilet seats.
tried it all. He does not care. He refuses to stop. It's a years-old problem that we can manage in the house but of course he comes home from school with nails chewed down and skin missing around them.

But thankfully, he takes COVID seriously and now washes his hands properly (his claims that 8 seconds are 20 is a joke though).
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tried it all. He does not care. He refuses to stop. It's a years-old problem that we can manage in the house but of course he comes home from school with nails chewed down and skin missing around them.

But thankfully, he takes COVID seriously and now washes his hands properly (his claims that 8 seconds are 20 is a joke though).
Hmmmm. Takes 7sec to form one's 1st impression (as per Forbes yesterday, if I remember well). His chewed on fingers will be those 7sec. Ask him if he wants to impress with his amazing personality instead...but I can imagine you've done that. The desinf gel and constant washing contribute to painful cuticles, though. It's hard to get rid off a tick while it is being caused for prevention Sometimes ignoring ocd behavior puts it out of attention and it leaves, but sometimes replacing it with something else less risky works too. Give him a new thing to focus on while he destresses, rings to roll around fingers, bracelets (I had a nursing necklace with weird things attached which worked insanely well), human brains are fun and funny. Guitar picking and piano makes usually people aware of the state of their fingers . Where is my manicure kit..

Photos of germs on hands might help visualized...but tbh, I am a germ freak and now after months of CV threat existence, I feel that my attention slips. Craving the old normal, I think
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How is it an insult?

I would consider it a compliment!

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My son came home yesterday from Kanti with his only homework assignment (today is a class trip so no Algebra) being to prepare a plan for Fernunterricht, including workspace preparation, Teams login, camera test, and mental prep for an 8 hour day on camera.

This is now, September 2020. Several of his older schoolmates are already in quarantine with an undisclosed number of positives. Another lockdown is not out of the question.

I'm not trying to be alarmist, but this isn't over yet, especially when we still see such strong mask resistance (he also got an email from a student at a different Luzern Kanti trying to organize a walkout in protest of the mask mandate).
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How is it an insult?

I would consider it a compliment!

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Noted. I'll try to let everyone know that you don't want to be pushed out of the way of the bus.
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Very good article in the FT about how Switzerland is handling the pandemic now. Good to see Switzerland is more of the opinion of the likes of V__ and myself and not the scaredy cat expats who post on this forum!!

https://www.ft.com/content/42a1a52b-...t=intlhomepage

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In more Swiss terms: Critics warn of complacency but cantons believe everyone must learn to live with the virus.

The FT article is a summary of what has happened since last March. Stop everything out of caution (March), observe how cases and death rise and fall (April), gradual return to economic activity (May-June), bad things don't materialize (July-Aug), keep testing and tracing (at least for several months) and take decisions according to it.

Even in hindsight the only government failure I see is that international travel was not banned or monitored even when were already in soft lockdown...too damned late. Beyond that, maybe 1 or 2 weeks less of lockdown?.

I think the largest failure was on things that take long to prepare for. Like the scarcity of masks because no one manufactures them here anymore. Of course, after the lockdown there was the effort to make them locally, but maybe a national security strategy should consider the capacity to manufacture masks instead of making Migros store coffee for a war.
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tried it all. He does not care. He refuses to stop. It's a years-old problem that we can manage in the house but of course he comes home from school with nails chewed down and skin missing around them...
I don't want to stray too far off-topic - but does he perhaps have some stress/anxiety issues? Nail-biting is not all that uncommon in kids, but ending up with missing skin and perhaps even bleeding from it is (to me) a sign of something deeper than a simple bad habit.

Being a teenager is anxiety-inducing as it is. Being a teenager in this Covid-19 world must be a doozy.
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In more Swiss terms: Critics warn of complacency but cantons believe everyone must learn to live with the virus.

The FT article is a summary of what has happened since last March. Stop everything out of caution (March), observe how cases and death rise and fall (April), gradual return to economic activity (May-June), bad things don't materialize (July-Aug), keep testing and tracing (at least for several months) and take decisions according to it.

Even in hindsight the only government failure I see is that international travel was not banned or monitored even when were already in soft lockdown...too damned late. Beyond that, maybe 1 or 2 weeks less of lockdown?.

I think the largest failure was on things that take long to prepare for. Like the scarcity of masks because no one manufactures them here anymore. Of course, after the lockdown there was the effort to make them locally, but maybe a national security strategy should consider the capacity to manufacture masks instead of making Migros store coffee for a war.
That's a fair assessment I think. I think the Swiss have handled the admirable so far, even the lockdown was very relaxed. I'm also glad that other than in a few cantons, they haven't gone the whole nine yards and insisted on masks to be worn everywhere like in other countries.
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I don't want to stray too far off-topic - but does he perhaps have some stress/anxiety issues? Nail-biting is not all that uncommon in kids, but ending up with missing skin and perhaps even bleeding from it is (to me) a sign of something deeper than a simple bad habit.

Being a teenager is anxiety-inducing as it is. Being a teenager in this Covid-19 world must be a doozy.
I agree, we tried everything with our son to stop the nail biting issues but it was only when the GP referred him to a psychologist that the problem was finally solved.
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Interesting article in 20min with some lessons learned and hindsight about the lockdown (in German): https://www.20min.ch/story/gesundhei...n-101403914040
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Thank you professor. Some on EF still want to keep digging
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My knee hurts, really bad. Could you please sacrifice the lives of an immeasurable number of people so I can get my operation sooner? No? How about just one person's life then? Yes, one person should do it. That's an acceptable number for my knee.

That's what people sound like in the Tony Clifton world.

If on the other hand you could save the life of one person by postponing your knee operation for six months, would you do it?
I think if you sampled a random group of people anywhere, you'd find a lot more know of someone (or several friends) who suffered greatly (or took their own lives/relapsed) due to covid anxiety/lockdowns than covid itself or long-term effects of having had covid. Didn't someone even say something like that in this thread?
People have had their surgeries postponed and died, too.


So diabetic/overweight people who caught Covid-19 died? Others have long-term effects of the disease? Was it the diabetes or the virus? The virus probably accelerated their decline. What about people who are not diabetic or even pre-diabetic? Depressed/immuno-compromised? Should we all live in fear because a lot of people are unhealthy/overweight?

People need to take their health into their own hands. I wish you doomers good luck depending on others in life to protect you from... well, anything. Because that's what masks do. You're angry at others for being skeptical over a rule that is meant to protect YOU. It's all about you. As is apparent in your virtue-signalling/insulting.
If you're really so scared to catch this thing and don't trust in your ability to recover, don't leave your house.

This is all so in line with what I know of Swiss mentality: sheltered, privileged people who get carried away into anxiety very easily and don't recognize that for a lot of people, lockdown equals: domestic violence, child abuse, suicidal ideation, unemployment etc...
Just because you don't see it or haven't gone through it doesn't mean it's not there.
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That's a fair assessment I think. I think the Swiss have handled the admirable so far..
I totally agree. Hard to be in crisis and preserve the feeling of regular life. It's not just gov that outperform even their worst critics but also general public did really well - I think that after the innitial shock we adjusted really fast. We just gotta stick to it.
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That's a fair assessment I think. I think the Swiss have handled the admirable so far, even the lockdown was very relaxed. I'm also glad that other than in a few cantons, they haven't gone the whole nine yards and insisted on masks to be worn everywhere like in other countries.
I guess what we got was the result of opposing points of view. Some pulled to the side of strict lockdown, some pulled to the side of do nothing because whatever you do doesn't help or more harm than good. The agreement contained both extremes....so the valuable thing is the local political environment where you can take into account a variety of opinions for a consensus instead of just obliterating other points of view.

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I guess what we got was the result of opposing points of view. Some pulled to the side of strict lockdown, some pulled to the side of do nothing because whatever you do doesn't help or more harm than good. The agreement contained both extremes....so the valuable thing is the local political environment where you can take into account a variety of opinions for a consensus instead of just obliterating other points of view.

Just curiosity, are 3 kisses back to say hello to the West of Bienne?
I would say I fall somewhere in the middle.
I think the lockdown, such as it was here, was the logical thing to do based on the info available at the time. Now that we know a bit more about the virus and its effects I don’t think a lockdown is on the cards again and in my opinion I think the Swiss are doing a pretty good job in handling the whole thing.

Not around here they’re not, thank goodness. The disappearance of the three kisses thing is probably the only good thing to come out of the whole coronavirus situation.
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