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Old 29.02.2020, 22:00
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We can only hope. I’m watching The Road, Book of Eli and Mad Max movies to prepare. I think by next week, the cannibalism will start. Should we start a thread to share recipes?
No, because that's Tom's domain. (sorry Tom, couldn't resist!!)

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Assuming person is not significantly underweight and does not have any food at home, find overstocking quite...well, interesting.
With the extra weight could first survive at least 4 weeks without any food just to get to the summer shape and after that there should be enough random food like rice, pasta, lentils and oil for at least 2 weeks, dying for starvation would come maybe 8-12 weeks after that.
Gin would run out in roughly 3-4 weeks (assuming would get smashed every night) on which after would need to stick to wine (maybe 1 week worth of stock if consuming moderate 2 bottles per day)

Think there is a change I did catch this f##### today as was in the train filled with openly and constantly coughing m##### f####### but as the mortality rate below age 45 seems to be relatively low so far, will not organize funeral just yet.
You might wind up a tad vitamin deficient but otherwise as long as you're healthy you can probably last quite a while with what's in your fridge, freezer, and pantry.

Has anyone stocked up on medications? I seem to recall the pharmacy won't give anyone more than 30 days of meds unless it's a script that's good for 3 months or more...
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Old 29.02.2020, 22:14
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No, because that's Tom's domain. (sorry Tom, couldn't resist!!)
You'll all have to keep a tight grip on your pussies if Tom gets his recipe book out.
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Has anyone stocked up on medications? I seem to recall the pharmacy won't give anyone more than 30 days of meds unless it's a script that's good for 3 months or more...
We've got a mini pharmacy going in in the bathroom. 'She who must be obeyed' in Athens gave us a monster bottle of 'special' Greek cough medicine last summer, and my best mate brought me a load of stuff over in December including several boxes of ibuprofen, paracetamol, Strepsils and antihistamines.
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Perhaps these countries cannot afford the testing kits. I know Iran has struggled to source them because of Mr. Trumps sanctions. Although Medical equipment isn’t covered by the sanctions, that doesn’t mean that companies are prepared to trade with Iran. Particularly when they have little hard currency.
Trump has actually lifted some sanctions and is allowing Switzerland to be a conduit for Iran to acquire needed medicine and food, this happened yesterday. Iran should hopefully be able to source all it needs to fight the epidemic now, or at least as well as most countries.

Meanwhile France has banned all gatherings of over 5000 people in confined spaces, and the Paris Semi-Marathon is cancelled. They've also banned all public gatherings in 6 towns with clusters of infection, five in the Oise department and one in Haute-Savoie, which borders with Switzerland. They're discouraging people going out in these places but you're still allowed to go out for food and go shopping. Expect this kind of measure to spread, as similar ones have in Italy.
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Old 29.02.2020, 22:25
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Here you go. https://youtu.be/3vw0hIs2LEg
This video compares the effectiveness of sneezing into one's hand, into one's elbow (method demonstrated) and into a handkerchief.
Yak.
So jackets go into the daily wash with the underwear now.

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Say what?
You have to ask? When this Corona-thing is over, we shall pave all roads, sidewalks, parking lots (you will have to do it with your own drive-way) new, we wash the lawns (each grass will be disinfected by hand), so will the flowers be (bee friendly stuff must be used), the houses will be washed down and the window cleaners will do 24h shifts. And remember to do the roofs first or you'll have to start all over again. TIS.
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Old 29.02.2020, 22:30
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Has anyone stocked up on medications? I seem to recall the pharmacy won't give anyone more than 30 days of meds unless it's a script that's good for 3 months or more...
Our scripts are always good for 6 months at least. We‘ve started getting our meds from our GP though and generally, we get 100 or 90 days refilled at a time. I was in the US in October and bought back first aid stuff and the all important Gaviscon - I got ibuprofen/acetaminophen last year.


But it‘s an interesting question - are prescription meds made in China? My Gaviscon is made in France. I throw out the inserts from my meds....will have to see if I have any unopened boxes.
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But it‘s an interesting question - are prescription meds made in China? My Gaviscon is made in France. I throw out the inserts from my meds....will have to see if I have any unopened boxes.
A lot of the materials we use to make medications in Europe come from China.
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Old 29.02.2020, 22:33
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There's gaps on the shelves, but we're a long way from shelves being totally empty. We didn't go shopping today and now I'm kicking myself because I fancy a slice of cake I've also read some of the US survivalist on social media. They appear to believe the everyone is Switzerland is armed to the teeth (hence the obsession) and we'll all start shooting each other for food.




i'll get my coat now...
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I haven't been following this thread so apologies the following links have already been posted earlier on. I've already posted this on the Basler Fasnacht thread (about the Fasnacht's having been cancelled because of Corona).

For anyone who wants statistics, such as they can be gathered and reported:
http://who.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsd...1c248d52ab9c61

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Here, one can arrange the data in several sequences, one of which is by country.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

And here's the Federal Swiss government's official info
https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/en/home...novel-cov.html
Thanks for these links doropfiz; just wanted to point out the most relevant and up to date site is the second link referenced:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

This site has much more current statistical info than other sites I have seen
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Old 29.02.2020, 23:17
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Is Switzerland doing any proactive testing or are they waiting for people to self report with symptoms?
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Is Switzerland doing any proactive testing or are they waiting for people to self report with symptoms?
The latter. The UK has begun mass surveillance through random testing but few others have followed so far. This will likely change in the coming weeks, like much else in daily life.
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Old 29.02.2020, 23:46
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The latter. The UK has begun mass surveillance through random testing but few others have followed so far. This will likely change in the coming weeks, like much else in daily life.
That's not at all reassuring considering those being tested have probably been walking around shedding virus for a week+. To be frank I would have expected a far more proactive approach from the country that insists on nuclear bunkers and iodine pills.
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That's not at all reassuring considering those being tested have probably been walking around shedding virus for a week+. To be frank I would have expected a far more proactive approach from the country that insists on nuclear bunkers and iodine pills.
Did you get yourself tested yet?
That would be proactive. General mo in this country is not waiting until one is told.
You are basically complaining not to be told. Peculiar. Indeed.
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Did you get yourself tested yet?
That would be proactive. General mo in this country is not waiting until one is told.
You are basically complaining not to be told. Peculiar. Indeed.
May I remind you this country allowed flights to China no matter what? They should have at the very minimum tested people at the airports coming in from countries that had an outbreak. They did neither this nor tested the frontaliers. This appears to be in light of what happened in the past week to have been dereliction to their duty to protect.
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May I remind you this country allowed flights to China no matter what? They should have at the very minimum tested people at the airports coming in from countries that had an outbreak. They did neither this nor tested the frontaliers. This appears to be in light of what happened in the past week to have been dereliction to their duty to protect.
Since there is no rapid test and tests can give false negatives, and people don't have to show up as positives during the first days this effectively would mean to lock up everybody for a minimum of several days, now surely you do not want to lock them up in the same room so how do you propose we would have "stored" all those people?

PS: We're not talking about just a few hundred people..
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May I remind you this country allowed flights to China no matter what? They should have at the very minimum tested people at the airports coming in from countries that had an outbreak. They did neither this nor tested the frontaliers. This appears to be in light of what happened in the past week to have been dereliction to their duty to protect.
It does not matter what you do. The virus goes around the world. There are no borders for a virus. Live with it!
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Did you get yourself tested yet?
That would be proactive. General mo in this country is not waiting until one is told.
You are basically complaining not to be told. Peculiar. Indeed.
As an ongoing development, I'd need to test daily if that were my approach. Italy has been testing everyone in the general vicinity of a positive which is why their numbers are so high, and south Korea notifies citizens by text message of the past movements of the person so you are aware you are at risk and can behave accordingly. Not testing doesn't make the sick go away. It just means you aren't going to find out about it in the early stages and sick people are going to be traveling around as normal during the incubation period all while spreading virus. It's not that we have any less Coronavirus than Italy, we are just using an approach where it'll take far longer to find out about it.
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Old 01.03.2020, 08:05
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Did you get yourself tested yet?
That would be proactive. General mo in this country is not waiting until one is told.
You are basically complaining not to be told. Peculiar. Indeed.
That's not what she meant at all.

Is this like your "The Swiss don't do panic buying and hoarding" post?

Shall I post some photos of empty shelves in Migros and Coop?

Half your posts seem to be in the vein of criticising other countries and then stating "We don't do that like that in Switzerland" (when you obviously do).


Why do you insist on trying to speak on behalf of the Swiss people?
Frankly, the Swiss people I know would find your posts embarrassing.
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Old 01.03.2020, 08:12
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That's not what she meant at all.

Is this like your "The Swiss don't do panic buying and hoarding" post?

Shall I post some photos of empty shelves in Migros and Coop?

Half your posts seem to be in the vein of criticising other countries and then stating "We don't do that like that in Switzerland" (when you obviously do).


Why do you insist on trying to speak on behalf of the Swiss people?
Frankly, the Swiss people I know would find your posts embarrassing.
I think you missed the humor. It is ok, the situation isn't funny.
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Old 01.03.2020, 08:19
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Did you get yourself tested yet?
That would be proactive. General mo in this country is not waiting until one is told.
You are basically complaining not to be told. Peculiar. Indeed.
I do not find it very funny, either.

So far, the suggested practice is to contact a physician, for example and discuss/request testing based on your circumstances. Marching into an office “proactively” when you might be infected is foolhardy.

And people are just like everyone else regarding health....sometimes a little passive. The big advantage here is access.

I think the question is more whether or not there are random checks, which help in finding less serious but still contagious cases.
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