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Old 14.09.2020, 19:39
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Source is worldometers. The same photo was showing for Sweden and Spain, now it is fixed.
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Old 14.09.2020, 22:17
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Re: Coronavirus

Looking at those graphs, does anyone know why Spain's #'s have been decreasing so much? I guess I haven't noticed much of anything about the situation in Spain mentioned in the news in a while, to know what could be the reason, so I'm curious if anything in particular may have been causing the numbers to fall so much in Spain while ours (and France's) continue to rise (?).
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Old 14.09.2020, 22:24
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Old 14.09.2020, 22:27
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Re: Coronavirus

According to https://english.elpais.com/society/2...-24-hours.html
Spain recorded more than 12000 cases in 24h.
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Old 14.09.2020, 22:28
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I wonder why V's graph shows the #'s in Spain declining so drastically since around August 29th.
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Looking at those graphs, does anyone know why Spain's #'s have been decreasing so much? I guess I haven't noticed much of anything about the situation in Spain mentioned in the news in a while, to know what could be the reason, so I'm curious if anything in particular may have been causing the numbers to fall so much in Spain while ours (and France's) continue to rise (?).
From Sept. 7 onward, figures for daily new cases only include cases already validated by the Ministry of Health in the daily PDF report. Since the validation process takes time to complete, additional cases are expected to be added retroactively once the weekly historical dataset revision is released by the Ministry of Health on Friday, Sept. 18. Data up to Sept. 6 reflects the latest release of the official "Historical Series of Cases by Autonomous Community" dataset released by the Ministry of Health.

Ie treat trends up to and including Sep 6 seperately from sep 7 and onwards.

When you've done that there is no clear decrease (yet), especially as cases have increased substantially from Sep 7. I'd be skeptical about the apparent decline in the first week of September so far - it could well have been affected by this change in recordal method.
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Old 14.09.2020, 23:03
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From Sept. 7 onward, figures for daily new cases only include cases already validated by the Ministry of Health in the daily PDF report. Since the validation process takes time to complete, additional cases are expected to be added retroactively once the weekly historical dataset revision is released by the Ministry of Health on Friday, Sept. 18. Data up to Sept. 6 reflects the latest release of the official "Historical Series of Cases by Autonomous Community" dataset released by the Ministry of Health.

Ie treat trends up to and including Sep 6 seperately from sep 7 and onwards.

When you've done that there is no clear decrease (yet), especially as cases have increased substantially from Sep 7. I'd be skeptical about the apparent decline in the first week of September so far - it could well have been affected by this change in recordal method.
Thanks for that. Yeah, I hadn't heard or seen anything about the #'s declining in Spain, so that's why I was surprised by the graph that V had posted.

Whenever I see those graphs, I find myself wondering how many people actually did contract the virus each day but never became tested and hence, never became a part of (or represented in) the statistics. I suspect that the majority of people who get the virus never get tested.
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Thanks for that. Yeah, I hadn't heard or seen anything about the #'s declining in Spain, so that's why I was surprised by the graph that V had posted.

Whenever I see those graphs, I find myself wondering how many people actually did contract the virus each day but never became tested and hence, never became a part of (or represented in) the statistics. I suspect that the majority of people who get the virus never get tested.
I guess it also depends how easy it is to obtain a test. Here it is easy, so no excuses. But looking at some other developed countries ex England where people have to stand in line for hours & hours for a walk in or beeing sent several miles across the country for a testing center. Or Sweden where you can recieve a test kit at home, no way of knowing if it was done correctly....
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Or Sweden where you can recieve a test kit at home, no way of knowing if it was done correctly....
in Sweden you can do both ways: via home test kit or go to nearest health center
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Old 15.09.2020, 09:29
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An opinion piece which uses some very flaky reasoning (no mention of the spanish flu outbreak of 1918)
And it is not relevant.
The lockdowns happened.
What is important is what happens from now on.
Are articles like these going to help compliance with social distancing measures and the wearing of masks?
I suggest not. In that case, the article is a danger to public health
"A danger to public health" Jeremy Clarkson made the very valid argument that it's dangerous to "follow the science" when the science isn't even agreed upon! We've already seen this with the U-turn performed by the WHO on mask recommendation.

On the subject of masks, the law of unintended consequences has struck again.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-54057799
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Old 15.09.2020, 09:50
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"A danger to public health" Jeremy Clarkson made the very valid argument that it's dangerous to "follow the science" when the science isn't even agreed upon! ]
"The science" has already agreed that social distancing and masks help to contain the virus.

And you bring up a showman to make a point here? Seriously?
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Old 15.09.2020, 09:59
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"The science" has already agreed that social distancing and masks help to contain the virus.

And you bring up a showman to make a point here? Seriously?
You don't appear to understand how science works. You should read Jeremy Clarkson's commentary piece, he explains it layman's terms.
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You don't appear to understand how science works. You should read Jeremy Clarkson's commentary piece, he explains it layman's terms.



Dude, stop it. Whatever you do here, just stop it.

You should read more. Period. Do expand your horizon beyond Jeremy Clarkson.
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Old 15.09.2020, 11:06
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You don't appear to understand how science works. You should read Jeremy Clarkson's commentary piece, he explains it layman's terms.
The guy is a professional polemist. His job is to fuel endless discussions, not to reach a conclusion, ever. I don't deride polemists, it's only that they only have questions, not answers.
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Old 15.09.2020, 11:12
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Re: Coronavirus

Well, CH is now high-risk area for the virus https://www.thelocal.ch/20200915/cor...high-risk-area
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Well, CH is now high-risk area for the virus https://www.thelocal.ch/20200915/cor...high-risk-area
Well, Zurich and the French bit (who seem to claim their behaviour is better than the Germans but then seem to have had consistently worse infection rates).
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Well, Zurich and the French bit (who seem to claim their behaviour is better than the Germans but then seem to have had consistently worse infection
Of course our behaviour is better

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Old 15.09.2020, 12:31
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...no wonder you can't cope if you give birth to 4 babies while your only income is already in the extreme poverty range.
Not everyone has access to free or low-cost birth control. And somewhere there's a man or men who are equally responsible for those children, or should be.
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Old 15.09.2020, 13:16
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You don't appear to understand how science works. You should read Jeremy Clarkson's commentary piece, he explains it layman's terms.

Bamboozled.

"You don't appear to understand how science works."

"You should read Jeremy Clarkson..."

WTAF?!!!!
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Bamboozled.

"You don't appear to understand how science works."

"You should read Jeremy Clarkson..."

WTAF?!!!!
Someone else who didn't read the piece
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