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Old 16.09.2020, 12:33
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Re: Coronavirus

A tangential topic to the virus. People reacts psychologically in different ways, and some scientists are curious about this. Of course take it with a grain of salt since the sample size is 310 individuals and I seriously doubt it can be replicated. Anyway it's fun because fans of horror, apocalyptic and post-apocalyptic films seem be less distressed by the changes to daily life caused by the virus and the public policies around it.

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One explanation for why people engage in frightening fictional experiences is that these experiences can act as simulations of actual experiences from which individuals can gather information and model possible worlds. Conducted during the COVID-19 pandemic, this study (n = 310) tested whether past and current engagement with thematically relevant media fictions, including horror and pandemic films, was associated with greater preparedness for and psychological resilience toward the pandemic. Since morbid curiosity has previously been associated with horror media use during the COVID-19 pandemic, we also tested whether trait morbid curiosity was associated with pandemic preparedness and psychological resilience during the COVID-19 pandemic. We found that fans of horror films exhibited greater resilience during the pandemic and that fans of “prepper” genres (alien-invasion, apocalyptic, and zombie films) exhibited both greater resilience and preparedness. We also found that trait morbid curiosity was associated with positive resilience and interest in pandemic films during the pandemic. Taken together, these results are consistent with the hypothesis that exposure to frightening fictions allow audiences to practice effective coping strategies that can be beneficial in real-world situations.
So, is being attracted to disaster fiction a positive trait that contributes to survive harder times or just a funny correlation? Is my time spent on the Fallout game well spent? https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...91886920305882
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That's not really true.

On the first point, Sweden's first wave is similar to Spain, Italy, UK at least in deaths so its hardly "massively longer and harder". It is perhaps slightly longer. I guess if by neighbours you mean Norway and Finland fair enough.
"Neighbours" are Denmark, Norway and Finland . Socially, geographically and economically comperable.

Spain, Italy and UK are all quite different.
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It's too early to judge Sweden. I personally think they will have a significant second wave, and it will all be to naught, but I could easily be wrong. We are too early into the second wave to tell whether it will result in many deaths or whether it will be just be a gentle increase as in providence, Boston, Philadelphia etc. in the Spanish flu.
Unfortunately Trump did inadvertently get one thing right: "It will get cooler". The Northern Hemisphere will be entering winter in 2–3 months and it remains to be seen what that will do to the second wave.

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I expect that any vaccine that is developed will only give immunity for a few months too.
TonyClifton-Qualified Scientific Pronouncement #412. And even if you're right, what's the point of that statement? We should all just give up now and throw away our masks? Great scientific method there.
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Old 16.09.2020, 12:44
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Nurses sent in to help Melbourne's coronavirus-ravaged aged care facilities say they are gravely concerned for residents — even those without COVID-19 infections — who have been stuck in "solitary confinement" for months.

One resident has even refused to eat and drink because she can't see her family or leave her room.

"She was able to tell me quite outright that she was not eating, not drinking and refusing to take her medication simply because she was happy to die and would rather die than live like this," Mr Durance said.
And I don't blame her.
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Old 16.09.2020, 12:50
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And I don't blame her.
A dreadful story and a reminder that it is the how, not the what that is important. I don't think anything in the australian lockdown regulations specify solitary confinement -it is the care home that is failing in its standards and then trying to pass the buck.
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Old 16.09.2020, 13:00
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And I don't blame her.
I can totally understand that too.

That visits from friends and family are limited i can understand but to be pretty much imprisoned in their rooms is horrible.
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I live next to a care home and they've put in an outside meeting area for family with multiple booths constructed from garden fencing, big bits of plexiglass seperating the resident from the visitor.
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Old 16.09.2020, 13:52
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That's a speculation. As most, it's wrong. Having said that, ponder on the fact that Sweden records fewest daily cases since March. Less than Norway, less than Denmark

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...es-since-march
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Old 16.09.2020, 15:10
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Re: Coronavirus

I haven't checked this thread since yesterday. So how are folks here doing?

Still contemplating the imminent pruning* of the population?

*I have borrowed the word from someone else on EF and took the liberty to use it myself.
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Old 16.09.2020, 15:35
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I haven't checked this thread since yesterday. So how are folks here doing?
Fine thanks. And how are you?

Finally having a 'quiet' spell where nobody amongst our family and friends currently has the virus (just one in month 6 of long covid), but don't want to tempt fate.

Heard from a few friends in my home town last night regarding school quarantines. My old school, which is also where a close friend teaches, sent all their year 11 'bubble' home to quarantine yesterday. The school which my best mate's kids and my nephew's son attend have had positive cases and sent the year 1 bubble home to quarantine. They can't get tests. It's an omnishambles. As of last night, 928 UK schools had positive cases and were taking action.

The only 'pruning' going on in our house is the tomatoes, courgettes, chillies and roses. Does that class as 'herd pruning'?
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Old 16.09.2020, 16:01
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Oh sorry, I forgot you have a problem with reading comprehension. Not sure if your groan is for the Guardian article I linked or for Sweden statistics, but as you're generally confused, I won't dwell on that.

Let me copy-paste it for the rest of the reading folk around here

Chief epidemiologist puts low number of cases down to light-touch ‘sustainable’ approach.

Sweden also has fewer new daily infections than Norway and Denmark, its Nordic neighbours and its seven-day average of coronavirus-related deaths is zero.



https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...es-since-march

You're now free to extrapolate into the future and spell gloom and doom for Sweden, just like most of the alarmists here did a few months ago. They were wrong then (fact), they will likely be wrong again (speculation)
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Old 16.09.2020, 16:04
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Re: Coronavirus

Early days but deaths seem to be picking up in CH. We were on a 1 a day average pretty resolutely for months and months and now we've had 15 in the last 3 days.

What will they close / restrict I wonder? Something will have to be done sooner or later but I don't want to see the arbitrary nonsense we've seen in the UK.

I'll bring my own idea to the table. To reduce overcrowding in supermarkets OPEN ON SUNDAY!!!!
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Oh sorry, I forgot you have a problem with reading comprehension. Not sure if your groan is for the Guardian article I linked or for Sweden statistics, but as you're generally confused, I won't dwell on that.

Let me copy-paste it for the rest of the reading folk around here

Chief epidemiologist puts low number of cases down to light-touch ‘sustainable’ approach.

Sweden also has fewer new daily infections than Norway and Denmark, its Nordic neighbours and its seven-day average of coronavirus-related deaths is zero.



https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...es-since-march

You're now free to extrapolate into the future and spell gloom and doom for Sweden, just like most of the alarmists here did a few months ago. They were wrong then (fact), they will likely be wrong again (speculation)
They were wrong then: no, fact check please:
https://ourworldindata.org/coronavir...n?country=~SWE

They will be likely wrong again: which speculation, that they will suffer similarly to their neighbours in future as the preventive measures tend to a consensus? lets see
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Old 16.09.2020, 16:28
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I'll bring my own idea to the table. To reduce overcrowding in supermarkets OPEN ON SUNDAY!!!!
Not going to happen without a referendum.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunday...ng#Switzerland
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Old 16.09.2020, 16:40
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Early days but deaths seem to be picking up in CH. We were on a 1 a day average pretty resolutely for months and months and now we've had 15 in the last 3 days.
New secateurs?
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Old 16.09.2020, 17:09
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They were wrong then: no, fact check please:
https://ourworldindata.org/coronavir...n?country=~SWE

They will be likely wrong again: which speculation, that they will suffer similarly to their neighbours in future as the preventive measures tend to a consensus? lets see
Thanks for the link, I used it to compare Sweden with its neighbours, see below.
The area under the graph for Sweden is horrible.

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Old 16.09.2020, 17:18
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Re: Coronavirus

Let's compare Sweden and it's neighbors, Sweden is being added on the green list of safe countries in Ireland, with only Finland being there from the Scandinavian countries.

Nuff said

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-...list-1.4355353
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Thankfully, most of Switzerland still sees this as a pointless requirement so there is no compulsory masks in most cantons
Do you have evidence that the majority of Switzerland doesn't want mandatory masks, or did you just make that up?

According to one poll taken at the end of June, 73.8% percent of people here wanted to make masks mandatory on public transport.

Three quarters of Swiss want face masks and more distance
https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/three-q...tance/45871274

Also, masks are now mandatory in stores in the cantons that have been the hardest hit by the virus. The fact that not all cantons have mandatory mask requirements is due to not all cantons having been hit as hard as the others. It doesn't necessarily reflect the views of the people but more the current situation in those cantons in terms of risk, how widespread the virus is in those cantons, etc.
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Old 16.09.2020, 17:40
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Not at all. The countries and areas currently experiencing significant rises are the holiday destinations. Plus, Sweden was on the quarantine list for many European countries, so they experienced a historic drop in tourism which will have largely shielded the country from imported cases.

Current advice in Sweden centers around social distancing, shielding over 70s and work from home.
https://www.krisinformation.se/en/ha...ew-coronavirus

https://www.krisinformation.se/en/ha...ittspridningen
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Do you have evidence that the majority of Switzerland doesn't want mandatory masks, or did you just make that up?

According to one poll taken at the end of June, 73.8% percent of people here wanted to make masks mandatory on public transport.

Three quarters of Swiss want face masks and more distance
https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/three-q...tance/45871274

Also, masks are now mandatory in stores in the cantons that have been the hardest hit by the virus. The fact that not all cantons have mandatory mask requirements is due to not all cantons having been hit as hard as the others. It doesn't necessarily reflect the views of the people but more the current situation in those cantons in terms of risk, how widespread the virus is in those cantons, etc.
It's funny - you'd probably get a similar percentage saying they want them to be compulsory in shops. And yet maybe 10% of people wear one. People are so fake.
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