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Re: Coronavirus

Covid-19 Second wave - tackling public Covid fatigue & apathy - where are the hard hitting Public Information
films like the John Hurt AIDS/HIV adverts of the 1980's in the UK ?

Professor Chris Whitty versus John Hurt from the classic 1980's AIDS video.

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AIDS/HIV British Public Information film 1986
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Covid-19 Second wave - tackling public Covid fatigue & apathy - where are the hard hitting Public Information
films like the John Hurt AIDS/HIV adverts of the 1980's in the UK ?

Professor Chris Whitty versus John Hurt from the classic 1980's AIDS video.

Covid-19 British Public Information film 2020

AIDS/HIV British Public Information film 1986
Wait. Changing the poster to orange didn't cut it for you?
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Re: Coronavirus

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A recent study in the southern őle-de-France region suggests confinement itself has had catastrophic consequences. In long-term care facilities with excess Covid-19 deaths, researchers found that acute respiratory distress was not the primary problem ó deaths were mainly due to hypovolemic shock, or fluid loss. Confined to their rooms in lockdown, with staff absences running at 40 per cent and with a consequent reduction in the usual support, residents were dying of thirst.
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Everywhere seeing Covid numbers sky rocket independent of whether masks are mandatory or not. Are we still pretending that masks have had any influence to limit the spread whatsoever?
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Old 10.10.2020, 20:20
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Everywhere seeing Covid numbers sky rocket independent of whether masks are mandatory or not. Are we still pretending that masks have had any influence to limit the spread whatsoever?
Just shut up.
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Old 10.10.2020, 20:24
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Everywhere seeing Covid numbers sky rocket independent of whether masks are mandatory or not. Are we still pretending that masks have had any influence to limit the spread whatsoever?
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Old 10.10.2020, 20:42
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Reading this make the blood boil.
There is no link to the study mentioned in that article, though (which is something that always makes me raise an eyebrow). It mentions a study but doesn't link to it or provide any information necessary for finding that study such as the authors of the study or where it was published, etc. I also did a Google search trying to find the study but couldn't find anything. I did, however, learn that thirst is a very common problem among people in palliative care.

https://www.mypcnow.org/fast-fact/th...lliative-care/

And this from 2011:
How 600 die of thirst in care homes: Damning report exposes the rising number of elderly killed by neglect
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...are-homes.html

So I'm not entirely certain that patients being confined to their rooms due to COVID is the cause of their dehydration. But of course, if hospitals and nursing homes are so stressed that they're not attending to the fluid needs of their patients, that's all the more need to try to control the spread of the virus and not allow hospitals to become too overcrowded.
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Old 10.10.2020, 20:53
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Exactly, whatís betting they donít receive a ban
They go along the narrative supported by the very few on this forum, I have to say I am amazed they are still convinced when everything so far has showed the opposite, they simply will not give up. The whole world has given up on lock downs but the few on this forum never will.
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1) No. You have made abundantly clear that you have no interest in enagaging in constructive discussions or learning more about this challenge we are all faced with. You have some points here and then which made me reconsider my views, but then you have shown that you just want to score your cheap points (like this right here).

2) Fine, bring it on. But I bet you prefer me not getting banned or warned, so that you can continue pretending you are the victim and all is rigged against you and your fellow souls.
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Old 10.10.2020, 21:01
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They go along the narrative supported by the very few on this forum, I have to say I am amazed they are still convinced when everything so far has showed the opposite, they simply will not give up. The whole world has given up on lock downs but the few on this forum never will.
He was talking about masks, not lockdown.
Why do you assume everything is related to lockdown?
I don’t see anyone saying lockdowns should be brought back in fact you seem to be the only person obsessed by them.

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They go along the narrative supported by the very few on this forum, I have to say I am amazed they are still convinced when everything so far has showed the opposite, they simply will not give up. The whole world has given up on lock downs but the few on this forum never will.
Who is they? And who talks about, or wishes for a lockdown?
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Old 10.10.2020, 21:04
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They go along the narrative supported by the very few on this forum, I have to say I am amazed they are still convinced when everything so far has showed the opposite, they simply will not give up. The whole world has given up on lock downs but the few on this forum never will.
I have the opposite view. It seems to me most people on here realize that lockdowns are not the norm any more, but they seemed to be the only option at the time - so we just have to live with what they were. We can't change what already happened but we can learn from it.

You and a few friends continue to bring up lockdowns as if we're all chained to our couches months later, which is simply not the case. You again posted an article from June to try and prove your point instead of coming up with a recent solution. We've moved on, you should too.

There's a middle ground that most countries are trying to find. That means some restrictions in some areas, but governments have seen the damage done by strict lockdowns and are trying to avoid them on any widespread scale going forward.
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Old 10.10.2020, 21:21
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Everywhere seeing Covid numbers sky rocket independent of whether masks are mandatory or not. Are we still pretending that masks have had any influence to limit the spread whatsoever?
Well, we don't know if it would be worse without them, do we. I guess psychologically they do have an influence as some people feel safer when wearing them - or rather when everybody else does

On EF the whole subject is intriguing. In one thread I read about this terrible person passing a good Ef-er on a walk along the lake, not wearing a mask yet coughing several meters before passing them. On the next thread I watch the idiot Italians being bashed for demanding masks to be worn outdoors under certain circumstances.

So the answer might be - depends on in which country and whether they are on holidays or work.
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Everywhere seeing Covid numbers sky rocket independent of whether masks are mandatory or not. Are we still pretending that masks have had any influence to limit the spread whatsoever?
Maybe you should board a train full of infected people who are coughing and sneezing and not wearing masks in order to test your theory.

If you think that masks don't help control the spread of a virus, then why do you think doctors wear them to protect their patients in hospitals and during surgery, etc.? You have been provided with plenty of evidence, including various studies and experiments, but you choose to ignore them.

Also, don't you have something more productive to do with your time, rather than trying to waste other people's time?


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In one thread I read about this terrible person passing a good Ef-er on a walk along the lake, not wearing a mask yet coughing several meters before passing them.
That was me. The guy was three feet in front of us when he coughed and then passed us, without covering his mouth. And as I had mentioned in that post, we were all standing on a dock that is about one meter wide, which means he had to walk right next to us in order to pass.
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So the 118 is only the number of homeopaths and khoomii singing experts, NOT the number of false names. Which Sky describe as "numerous".

The signatures to the document are all self-declared. There has been no control if these people are what they claim.
Got it! But what about those who are reputable and signed? From the website, it appears ANYONE can sign so of course some will sign on with false backgrounds/narratives. Nothing is stopping those idiots from doing so...

My point is/was: what about the reputable scientists and epidemiologists who signed? Surely a few rogue signatures does not discredit their signatures - nor their academic weight.

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Well, we don't know if it would be worse without them, do we. I guess psychologically they do have an influence as some people feel safer when wearing them - or rather when everybody else does

On EF the whole subject is intriguing. In one thread I read about this terrible person passing a good Ef-er on a walk along the lake, not wearing a mask yet coughing several meters before passing them. On the next thread I watch the idiot Italians being bashed for demanding masks to be worn outdoors under certain circumstances.

So the answer might be - depends on in which country and whether they are on holidays or work.
Likewise, we also donít know if things would be better without them either. What we do know is that there were very few cases in much Europe when masks became mandatory, and now thereís lots of cases. This is likely to due to other factors, however one would expect to see some benefit in the numbers. Iím inclined to believe that masks make little difference whatsoever, in which case, why do we go through the pantomime of wearing them?

Also, if masks were effective, why has there been no influence on the seasonal flu infection rate either?
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Likewise, we also donít know if things would be better without them either. What we do know is that there were very few cases in much Europe when masks became mandatory, and now thereís lots of cases. This is likely to due to other factors, however one would expect to see some benefit in the numbers. Iím inclined to believe that masks make little difference whatsoever, in which case, why do we go through the pantomime of wearing them?

Also, if masks were effective, why has there been no influence on the seasonal flu infection rate either?
Because inclined and believe are no arguments.

I seriously don't like these masks. Yet I have no problem adapting to this rule (and I'm not into rules much). I don't see why it's worth making a fuss over it.
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