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Some info about Vitamin D

more info here:
https://www.quora.com/What-evidence-...-Martin-Wodark

no worries, all this sunlight in in the Swiss flatlands will keep us healthy
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That should not surprise anyone... FMF is basically the Donald Trump of the forum. fatmantrump... FMT?
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Old 12.10.2020, 16:59
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This isn't true - if you want a test and are willing to pay for it (or more likely your company is), you can be tested.

Did you mean to say that you can only get tested through insurance based on those criteria?
Of course it's easy enough to claim you have some of the symptoms if what you want 2 weeks at home & a test .
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Excuse me, I have had COVID.
We are all aware of that, and you have made it quite known that it wasn’t dangerous for you and therefore think it shouldn’t be for anybody else. Please stop.
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We are all aware of that, and you have made it quite known that it wasn’t dangerous for you and therefore think it shouldn’t be for anybody else. Please stop.
It's not dangerous for over 99% of the population, stop being hysterical.
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That should not surprise anyone... FMF is basically the Donald Trump of the forum. fatmantrump... FMT?
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Come on that was more of a personal insult than the backhand praise I gave to Chuff, which you deleted as personal insult few hours ago
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Old 12.10.2020, 17:42
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It's not dangerous for over 99% of the population, stop being hysterical.
It's dangerous for anyone with a vitamin D deficiency (not to mention anyone with high blood pressure or who is pregnant, etc.), and that's much greater than just 1% of the population.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....04.20188268v1

https://www.medscape.com/answers/128...n-d-deficiency

But go on... Keep trying to convince yourself that only a tiny percentage of humans are at risk from COVID. Because clearly you prefer the comfortable bubble of your cognitive bias.
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Old 12.10.2020, 17:46
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It's dangerous for anyone with a vitamin D deficiency (not to mention anyone with high blood pressure or who is pregnant, etc.), and that's much greater than just 1% of the population.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....04.20188268v1

https://www.medscape.com/answers/128...n-d-deficiency

But go on... Keep trying to convince yourself that only a tiny percentage of humans are at risk from COVID. Because clearly you prefer the comfortable bubble of your cognitive bias.
You just need to look at deaths year to date in CH / UK or wherever & you will see COVID is a tiny minority. Heart disease will kill many more with high blood pressure, they generally don't worry & have probably become less fit & more overweight this year, even so COVID is not the big danger for them. No 2 killer being cancer, smoking still quite trendy in CH, only out lawed in offices about 10 years ago.

Of course those deaths, are death with COVID, not from COVID.......
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Old 12.10.2020, 17:50
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It's dangerous for anyone with a vitamin D deficiency
I have been taking Vit D for many years along with other supplements but has any government done a public broadcast about this? Should there not be posters all over about taking Vit D? Is it incompetence from their part or willful ignorance?
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Old 12.10.2020, 17:54
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You just need to look at deaths year to date in CH / UK or wherever & you will see COVID is a tiny minority. Heart disease will kill many more with high blood pressure, they generally don't worry & have probably become less fit & more overweight this year, even so COVID is not the big danger for them.
Why are you even viewing this in terms of what is a bigger danger? It's not mutually exclusive. That's like saying "Well, more people die from lung cancer than from leukemia, therefore leukemia isn't a big deal."

Seriously, you could really use some improvement in your logic and critical thinking skills.

How many doctors and nurses who work in ICU units in hospitals right now do you think you could find who would agree with you that COVID is no big deal?
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Old 12.10.2020, 17:56
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Single statistics aren't helpful on either side of the argument.

According to WHO data, the current fatality rate is indeed around 0.5 to 1% across all people:

https://www.who.int/news-room/commen...-from-covid-19

But obviously for many groups the risk is much higher, so people in those groups have a rather different view of it than those of us not at such risk (and actually probably much much less than 0.5%).

Older people can be 25x more likely to die, which is not good odds, although the newer treatments are helping.
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I have been taking Vit D for many years along with other supplements but has any government done a public broadcast about this? Should there not be posters all over about taking Vit D? Is it incompetence from their part or willful ignorance?
I actually did write CNN a few weeks ago and asked them to do a piece regarding vitamin D deficiency and its role in increasing one's risks from COVID. (There is a page on their website where you can suggest stories, etc.).

Growing up in the US, I don't remember ever being advised to take vitamin D during the winter, and vitamin D deficiency is extremely common in the US (as well as in much of the world).
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I have been taking Vit D for many years along with other supplements but has any government done a public broadcast about this? Should there not be posters all over about taking Vit D? Is it incompetence from their part or willful ignorance?
I posted the official recommendation to take Vitamin D supplements from the Swiss Nutrition Society this morning. The recommendation was widely reported on Swiss media.
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Old 12.10.2020, 18:05
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Older people can be 25x more likely to die, which is not good odds, although the newer treatments are helping.
Older people are more likely to die, 3 of my 4 grand parents were dead before I was born & the average age of all 4 at death was 66. All died of Natural causes before age 73, so as far as I am concerned the more worrying risk is those whom die below 73 rather than those above 80.

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I posted the official recommendation to take Vitamin D supplements from the Swiss Nutrition Society this morning. The recommendation was widely reported on Swiss media.

That is not same as actually getting the info out to the masses. For example like the mask posters found on public transport. Anyway I searched your post and from your pdf the key recommendations are-


• Vitamin C: Supplementation with 200 mg/day is
recommended.



• Vitamin D: 2000 IU (50 µg) per person and day;
this is higher than the daily recommended intake
(DRI = 800 IU) because this dose has demonstrated
to reduce risk for respiratory tract infections
(Martineau 2019). The dose is well within the safety
range as the Upper Limit (UL) for vitamin D is 4000
IU/day and person.



• DHA and EPA: recommendation is 500 mg DHA and
EPA per person and day to reduce inflammation
risks.



• Selenium: 50 -100 µg per person and day as the
Swiss population is low in selenium alike other European
populations.



• Zinc: 10 mg per person and day as the Swiss population
is low in zinc
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Old 12.10.2020, 18:11
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Re: Coronavirus

Since we're on the topic of vit D... I just wanted to say that if anyone here has their levels checked and then gets put on high-dose supplements for a month to get their levels up to normal, stick with it... religiously. Take that high dose of D every single day (set an alarm reminder if you need to) and then be sure to stick with the prescribed normal daily dose after that.

For the past three or four years, my vit D was found to be low each Autumn, but last year was the first year that I was actually really good about taking those high-dose drops every day, to get my levels up. And last winter was the first winter in years when I didn't become sick from colds and the flu (or get the winter blues for that matter).

Also, maybe consider taking magnesium, since that is necessary for the body to metabolize vitamin D, and magnesium deficiencies are extremely common. I take magnesium glycinate every evening (on an empty stomach), which is the best kind of magnesium for absorption, I guess, and it doesn't have any of the side effects (stomach problems) that many of the other forms of magnesium can cause.
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That is not same as actually getting the info out to the masses.
Come on, it was in Blick!

(To be honest, that's where I found it, but of course I couldn't post a link to Blick so had to go all the way to the actual document)
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Since we're on the topic of vit D... I just wanted to say that if anyone here has their levels checked and then gets put on high-dose supplements for a month to get their levels up to normal, stick with it... religiously. Take that high dose of D every single day (set an alarm reminder if you need to) and then be sure to stick with the prescribed normal daily dose after that.

For the past three or four years, my vit D was found to be low each Autumn, but last year was the first year that I was actually really good about taking those high-dose drops every day, to get my levels up. And last winter was the first winter in years when I didn't become sick from colds and the flu (or get the winter blues for that matter).

Also, maybe consider taking magnesium, since that is necessary for the body to metabolize vitamin D, and magnesium deficiencies are extremely common. I take magnesium glycinate every evening (on an empty stomach), which is the best kind of magnesium for absorption, I guess, and it doesn't have any of the side effects (stomach problems) that many of the other forms of magnesium can cause.
I never had an eye on my Vit D, but I do a regular blood check, so they would have told me if Vit D was low, correct?
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I never had an eye on my Vit D, but I do a regular blood check, so they would have told me if Vit D was low, correct?
I remember buying Vitamin D & Zinc in France late March / April, before I realised it was all overblown. I don't think I took it more than twice, so the info has been out for a long time.
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I remember buying Vitamin D & Zinc in France late March / April, before I realised it was all overblown. I don't think I took it more than twice, so the info has been out for a long time.
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