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The deaths are "normal"! The average age of those dying of Covid is 82 or thereabouts, about the same as the average life expectancy for the average human. It's exceptionally sad when people die, and more people are dying because of this virus (although as a percentage of the world's population, not that many), but it's also perfectly normal. Many seem to now have the strange notion that it is "wrong to die". Nature is brutal and doesn't care about people's feelings.
Dear god it's amazing how much utter **** you write. Peddling this idea that people being killed by COVID is 'normal' and you then tacking on your faux-empathy to it, trying to paint it as some kind of noble sacrifice, is of course utterly unconvincing. Newflash: a LOT of people live beyond their late seventies and eighties and anything that can be done to avoid the deaths of them should be done. My grandparents are still very active at 83 and to write them off would just be laughable in its inhumanity.

Only someone with psychopathic traits would say all of this is "perfectly normal".
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Old 13.10.2020, 13:03
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Lockdown is such a success that those should benefit the most from it actually would rather die from Covid than be in lockdown

Nursing home residents stage heartbreaking protest outside facility: 'Rather die from COVID than loneliness'
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Ben Gonzales, an assistant administrator at Fairacres Manor, said the residents are upset about the COVID-19 restrictions put in place by the state health department. “They want to be able to hug their grandchildren, they want to be able to hold the hands of their loved ones,” Gonzales said. Gonzales said the residents are able to see visitors, but they have to stay six feet apart and can’t have any physical contact.
I guess this is what people call cultural differences. During our soft lockdown one of my elderly neighbors talked with her friends from the balcony. More than 6 feet apart for sure and they looked happy.
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Old 13.10.2020, 13:11
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Re: Coronavirus

Also, it's kind of ridicule to post in a forum full of foreigners living thousands of km away from their families about hugs and holding hands. I look forward to calls, skypes or even whatsapp messages with my family. Of course, it would be nice to hug them one day, but I did it last summer and expect to visit them next summer. This is life for anyone living away from home, regardless of covid, lockdowns or whatever.
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Todays number is 1445
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Todays number is 1445
1445 new cases from 9571 tests. that is an infection rate of 15%!

are they running out of tests? is there a known reason why they are not testing more?
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Old 13.10.2020, 13:53
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1445 new cases from 9571 tests. that is an infection rate of 15%!
I don't think infection rate works like that. Resident scientists can maybe chime in
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Old 13.10.2020, 13:55
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1445 new cases from 9571 tests. that is an infection rate of 15%!

are they running out of tests? is there a known reason why they are not testing more?
Mr Wishes said Switzerland is at at 50% testing capacity right now, so they want to try and limit tests a little bit to ensure they can process all of them and get results quickly. I'm not sure if this info was from the BAG site or the press conference.

It appears it's going to be like in the spring - people with symptoms will be the main ones getting tests, and those are more likely to be positive than random samples of the population.

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Old 13.10.2020, 14:05
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1445 new cases from 9571 tests. that is an infection rate of 15%!

are they running out of tests? is there a known reason why they are not testing more?
For some reason I can’t understand, they’ve restricted the criteria indicating you must be tested. A common cold without cough or fever isn’t enough to require testing now, at least in Vaud.

Considering that when I was tested positive 3 weeks ago I had the sniffles and nothing else, it makes me wonder what the real numbers are!
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1445 new cases from 9571 tests. that is an infection rate of 15%!

are they running out of tests? is there a known reason why they are not testing more?
This is what I read too, scary number of positive tests and even more scarier is the number of test done.

Not testing people with minor symptoms is good to keep the numbers down , but surely it is going to bite them in the back.
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Re: Coronavirus

Swiss drug firm Roche says it is to launch a new Covid-19 antigen test before the end of the year, allowing faster, higher-volume testing.
https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/roche-p...ting-/46093402
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Old 13.10.2020, 14:45
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Dear god it's amazing how much utter **** you write. Peddling this idea that people being killed by COVID is 'normal' and you then tacking on your faux-empathy to it, trying to paint it as some kind of noble sacrifice, is of course utterly unconvincing. Newflash: a LOT of people live beyond their late seventies and eighties and anything that can be done to avoid the deaths of them should be done. My grandparents are still very active at 83 and to write them off would just be laughable in its inhumanity.

Only someone with psychopathic traits would say all of this is "perfectly normal".
Facts don't care about your feelings either.

COVID deaths closely match 'normal' age-related risk pattern
https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3259
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-...rn-expert.html

Average age of coronavirus fatalities is 82
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/a...s-82-pcwqrzdzz

List of countries by life expectancy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ife_expectancy
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Re: Coronavirus

I guess it is stupid question, but is Switzerland exempt from the new EU unified travel restrictions?

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/i...d-19-measures/
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Old 13.10.2020, 15:05
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I guess it is stupid question, but is Switzerland exempt from the new EU unified travel restrictions?

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/i...d-19-measures/

Switzerland has its own rules and regulations, if they want to adapt this, no idea
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Switzerland has its own rules and regulations, if they want to adapt this, no idea
I meant, would EU countries start to block travel from Switzerland.
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I guess it is stupid question, but is Switzerland exempt from the new EU unified travel restrictions?

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/i...d-19-measures/
Here is an article regrading this new initiative.

https://www.srf.ch/news/internationa...ne-die-schweiz

Despite the "traffic light system", each country can still determine for itself which entry bans it will issue.
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Old 13.10.2020, 15:46
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Babies being born today will be living to over a hundred. On the one side we're expected to celebrate this achievement, on the other side, all we ever hear is pension crisis, care crisis, over population crisis...
Lucky babies, thanks to lockdowns.
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... and anything that can be done to avoid the deaths of them should be done.
And if some of us think "anything" might be too much, we are heartless bastards.

So, have you transferred all your wealth to the hospital / care home to improve your grandparent's medical care and chance to avoid death? You did say ANYTHING...
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And if some of us think "anything" might be too much, we are heartless bastards.

So, have you transferred all your wealth to the hospital / care home to improve your grandparent's medical care and chance to avoid death? You did say ANYTHING...
Or keeping the very elderly prisoners in their care homes without allowing visits? I mean we're keeping them ALIVE aren't we?! We're even doing it against their will in many cases. They should be grateful! They're not really living, and will likely be dead within a year anyway, but at least they're ALIVE!
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So, have you transferred all your wealth to the hospital / care home to improve your grandparent's medical care and chance to avoid death? You did say ANYTHING...
Have I transferred all of my wealth? What on earth are you even talking about... is that a serious post? I just imagine you reading that twaddle back to yourself with a smile and thinking: "Hah, I have now sprung my intellectual trap".
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I don't think infection rate works like that. Resident scientists can maybe chime in
You've got to remember not everyone here can speak English well - he's an Australian
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