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I am in better shape physically and mentally than I have been in many years.
I suspect reduction in medication is to blame
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Despite pretending to have altruistic motives for ending or reducing COVID-19 controls in this post of yours, the fact remains that most of your posts appear to have an entirely self-centred, selfish reason for ending controls.

For example, how does wearing a mask affect the economy or general living:

Yes, we get you don't like wearing one. My kids don't like to put on a rain coat when it's raining.
My problem with wearing masks is that the evidence that they work is not strong enough to mandate them, furthermore, the consequences of enforcing populations to wear masks are not understood enough. Finally, even with many countries now wearing masks, they appear to have had absolutely no influence on reducing the rate of infection with numbers exploding everywhere.
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Old 15.10.2020, 11:36
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It´s not only protecting the old, also protecting younger people with diabetes, auto immune diseases, kids, young and older people who are in the so called risk group etc etc
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Try doing a little reading and you might understand.
Do I need to read something specific, or its just a way to say: "you are too stupid to talk about it"?
do I need to read about cross-immunity religion, btw?
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Although please note I wrote "designed to" which is certainly no guarantee of success.
ah, so convenient
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Old 15.10.2020, 11:37
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I don't know the history of the various posters and mods but superficially it seems like the mods have the back of some posters. Insulting posts from some don't get deleted but less insulting posts from others get deleted and the person even gets banned

Chuff, your lovely grandparents just like my parents are in their mid 80s and relatively healthy. That does not change the fact that they are at the end stage of their life. Acknowledging that and pointing the obvious does not make someone a psychopath. I don't think old people should be sacrificed, they have as much right to live as any young person. I genuinely hope that your grandparents live to 100+ and stay healthy.

Btw Chuff, you come across as an arrogant spoilt brat. Little less cockiness would do you well


For the official record- I am definitely not on team Tony Clifton or Team Chuff. I am flexible in my views based on evolving data. I on team ME
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Old 15.10.2020, 11:43
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It would appear that there quite a few people on this thread who are on Team 'ME'.
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Re: Coronavirus

Not sure if this has been posted, but yesterday Geneva Canton put in additional restrictions, effective yesterday. They continue to have escalating cases and high rate of positive tests (20%).

-Gatherings of more than 15 people in public areas (public squares, promenades and parks) are prohibited.

-Wearing a face mask is mandatory in all establishments and installations accessible to the public.

- Private events gathering more than 100 people are prohibited.

-Some additional measures for private events with 15-100 people like guarantee wearing of mask, no consumption unless non changeable seats etc
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Old 15.10.2020, 11:56
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My God you really don't get it. We've been doing an insane amount, a ridiculous-over-the-top-never-seen amount of things to "protect them" (even if they never asked for that protection and many instead died - from this or something else - alone without their loved ones - fab job).

We have bankrupted the world, sacrificed half a generation's future, created massive polarization and division as well as social and political unrest, robbed children and the young from education and socialization, created massive health issues down the line, increased poverty and marginalization etc. etc. etc.
Holy hyperbole, batman.

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Btw Chuff, you come across as an arrogant spoilt brat. Little less cockiness would do you well
"I have to pay for your kids?" https://www.englishforum.ch/family-m...ur-kids-o.html
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Old 15.10.2020, 11:59
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I'm talking generally, not regarding Switzerland. I've consistently said that I've been happy with the Swiss response (other than the masks). Let's hope they hold their nerve in today's meeting. Especially the glorious Canton of Aargau!
I just hope they keep schools open as long as possible.
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Old 15.10.2020, 12:00
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See, I care more about old people than young kids

I am glad you enjoyed the great discussion that came about on that thread due to my cleverly titled thread and posts.
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Old 15.10.2020, 12:02
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We have bankrupted the world, sacrificed half a generation's future, created massive polarization and division as well as social and political unrest, robbed children and the young from education and socialization, created massive health issues down the line, increased poverty and marginalization etc. etc. etc.
I won't address all of this but I will contradict something I have direct experience with. I really am dumbfounded about how children are robbed of education and socialisation? All three of my kids did on line schooling with great success during the barely two months or so of physical shutdown of schools. No subjects missed, still passed school and state exams at end. This school year, most are physical school, others online again with no consequences. Created bubble with neighbours for socialisation during shutdown. Camps, activities as usual in summer and fall. Facetime, hangouts with friends etc.
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Old 15.10.2020, 12:13
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I won't address all of this but I will contradict something I have direct experience with. I really am dumbfounded about how children are robbed of education and socialisation? All three of my kids did on line schooling with great success during the barely two months or so of physical shutdown of schools. No subjects missed, still passed school and state exams at end. This school year, most are physical school, others online again with no consequences. Created bubble with neighbours for socialisation during shutdown. Camps, activities as usual in summer and fall. Facetime, hangouts with friends etc.
Let me guess. You are well educated and have enough money to buy them computers.
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Old 15.10.2020, 12:14
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I won't address all of this but I will contradict something I have direct experience with. I really am dumbfounded about how children are robbed of education and socialisation? All three of my kids did on line schooling with great success during the barely two months or so of physical shutdown of schools. No subjects missed, still passed school and state exams at end. This school year, most are physical school, others online again with no consequences. Created bubble with neighbours for socialisation during shutdown. Camps, activities as usual in summer and fall. Facetime, hangouts with friends etc.
This isn't really the case for all the children. And some really need face to face time with teachers and classmates in order to progress. We did great during the lockdown as well but I'd never assume it is like that for all. Which is the reason school will either not close in my opinion or the last min, like it is in CZ (10000 cases per day currently) and they just close primaries only for 2 wks.
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Old 15.10.2020, 12:19
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I won't address all of this but I will contradict something I have direct experience with. I really am dumbfounded about how children are robbed of education and socialisation? All three of my kids did on line schooling with great success during the barely two months or so of physical shutdown of schools. No subjects missed, still passed school and state exams at end. This school year, most are physical school, others online again with no consequences. Created bubble with neighbours for socialisation during shutdown. Camps, activities as usual in summer and fall. Facetime, hangouts with friends etc.
I don't have kids but I did home office from March to July. I listened to children of the apartment complex play outside every day of the spring and summer. When there were 6-8 of them, I had to use my headphones. No prob....as if I didn't like music

Quite probably the most underrated thing of 2020 is that parents spent more time with their children. The 2nd most underrated thing is how parents are a bit more thankful to the teachers that work with their little savages several hours per day.
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Old 15.10.2020, 12:21
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Regarding lockdown and education, if I had this situation during my university days, maybe I would have studied harder and partied less and been on CHF120-250k wages like you guys
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Old 15.10.2020, 12:22
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Let's have a sweepstake.. What's going to be announced/restricted tomorrow..?

My guess is pubs, early closing, nightclubs shut.. Work from home directive back again.

Possibly cinema, sports clubs ?

Schools no actions yet.
And the answer is: f--- all.
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Old 15.10.2020, 12:31
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Campaign in Berlin.
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Old 15.10.2020, 12:38
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Campaign in Berlin.

Not possible for Swiss residents as you´d need to quarantine for 10 days afterwards.


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My problem with wearing masks is that the evidence that they work is not strong enough to mandate them, furthermore, the consequences of enforcing populations to wear masks are not understood enough. Finally, even with many countries now wearing masks, they appear to have had absolutely no influence on reducing the rate of infection with numbers exploding everywhere.
There are some studies that found a reduction of infections by some 25 to 30% as a consequence of mask wearing indoors. I am aware that many studies are small samples, not fully reviewed etc., so I am just saying these conclusions exist.

What level of reduction due to masks would be sufficient for you to support them? Serious question.

I am not a fan of masks, and I find them terribly uncomfortable, but I see good reasons to wear them in indoor setting.
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There are some studies that found a reduction of infections by some 25 to 30% as a consequence of mask wearing indoors. I am aware that many studies are small samples, not fully reviewed etc., so I am just saying these conclusions exist.

What level of reduction due to masks would be sufficient for you to support them? Serious question.

I am not a fan of masks, and I find them terribly uncomfortable, but I see good reasons to wear them in indoor setting.
Have you tried the cloth masks? I found the N95 ones really uncomfortable, but the cloth ones aren't imo - and keep your face warm in this colder weather.
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