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Re: Coronavirus

And todays number is 5596 out of 28k tests.

Thats 19.8% positive tests

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Old 21.10.2020, 13:07
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I totally would if I was almost licking the keyboard 12hrs a day or taped my cell to my face for that amount of time. It is pretty easy to clean, though. Not sure what micro-fluff is shed from the mask but it kills my sinuses/nasal lining. I know there is nothing better right now.
Sure, if you are considerate (and don't touch your face as much as I do while writing, around 4 times while writing my latest post here btw) you will be fine.

Your mask is shedding to this extend? Do you have to wear it in classrooms all the time?
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Old 21.10.2020, 13:14
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And todays number is 5596 out of 28k tests.

Thats 19.8% positive tests
Hospitalizations up to 115
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Old 21.10.2020, 13:19
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I think you mean up by 115.
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Old 21.10.2020, 13:21
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Re: Coronavirus

Teachers are slowly organizing their lessons for the next lockdown, just in case.
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Old 21.10.2020, 13:23
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Time to buy the toilet roll folks..
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Old 21.10.2020, 13:27
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I think you mean up by 115.
Genuine question. Would it have worked if I wrote: Daily (within 24h) hospitalization rate up to 115?
Thats what I meant, but you were right to correct me. Thanks
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Old 21.10.2020, 13:34
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Sure, if you are considerate (and don't touch your face as much as I do while writing, around 4 times while writing my latest post here btw) you will be fine.

Your mask is shedding to this extend? Do you have to wear it in classrooms all the time?
Yeah. But canton Vaud has been really disciplined since March. Either something sheds or it just really dries out all lining. I don't have the patience to study it

CZ is asking people to tone down demanding sports and put away activities that can hurt people, 12000 cases today. Expected peak is still 2 wks away. No lockdown, but all schools are online and everyone who can is on homeoffice. CH will be there in a few days I think. I haven't had my grad ceremonies yet but just hope to be able to see everyone again. Sometime. Anytime.
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Old 21.10.2020, 13:35
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Genuine question. Would it have worked if I wrote: Daily (within 24h) hospitalization rate up to 115?
Thats what I meant, but you were right to correct me. Thanks
I picture all the native speakers here biting their nails so they wouldn't correct us all the time...
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Old 21.10.2020, 13:37
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Hospitalizations up to 115

Yup, and this is just the beginning. Call me doomsday advocate but we will see Bergamo v2.0 yet this winter. Sadly.


What we need now is a decisive government and mayors that act as Giuseppe Falcomatà (the "I will send flamethrowers to you home" dude) to deal with "skeptics" and quarantine breakers. Otherwise suffering will be horrible.
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Old 21.10.2020, 13:45
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Sweden is moving away from its no-lockdown strategy and preparing strict new rules amid rising coronavirus cases

Dr. Joacim Rocklov of Umea University told The Telegraph that after being an outlier earlier in the year, Sweden was shifting to a strategy closer to those adopted by most other governments.
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Makes sense don't it.

Edit: Sweden has recorded a much higher per capita death rate than its neighbors since adopting this strategy. It had recorded 5,918 deaths as of Sunday, compared with 278 in Norway and 346 in Finland.
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Old 21.10.2020, 13:50
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Genuine question. Would it have worked if I wrote: Daily (within 24h) hospitalization rate up to 115?
Thats what I meant, but you were right to correct me. Thanks
Yes it would. Or better still ‘Daily hospitalisations up to 115‘ as it’s not really a rate.

I wasn’t meaning to be pedantic but the way you wrote it initially made it sound as if that was the total number of hospitalisations.
I remember rightly it was you who was studying for the Cambridge proficiency exam so I hoped you wouldn’t mind.
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Old 21.10.2020, 13:55
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Time to buy the toilet roll folks..
I did that last wk
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Old 21.10.2020, 14:01
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We might not always see the strategy, though. Stocking up on ventilators...even wheat, gaining precious time.

Asking questions is good. If media censor it, they aren't by any means 'reputable media' as was labeled somewhere here last night. I hope the freedom of asking questions will stay, in media...at schools, anywhere. Otherwise people will not master the skill to ask the right question at the right time.
On media: I could very easily argue that even so-called reputable media outlets have descended into hysterical, sensationalist, utterly unbalanced "reporting". I also happen to know one of the editors-in-chief of one of the two (formerly) very reputable Swiss newspaper, and he openly admits (over beers of course) that his entire integrity as a journalist has gone out the window, but that he feels he has next to no choice but to whistle the same tune as no one's willing to pay for proper journalism, so the only way to generate money is via sponsored clicks - and of course the more sensationalist, the more clicks. I wouldn't go so far as saying it's intentional censorship - but there's certainly A LOT of information that never makes into the public discourse or media (see e.g. the WHO revelation from a few days ago or really anything the WHO says, or any objective assessment, any interdisciplinary dialogue etc.). And yes that's very very very worrying. Decent journalism has a role not only to report, but to build opinions. If those opinions are entirely one-sided, that's in no way a good thing.
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Old 21.10.2020, 14:10
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The laziest of lazy smears

Literally thousands of doctors and scientists coming out against the current Covid (lack of) strategy and/or masks, and that's the best you can come up with
Even if it is "thousands" (I doubt), how about the many many thousands more that do support masks etc.?

Or are we only supposed to listen to the ones that agree with you?
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Old 21.10.2020, 14:15
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And the Czech Republic have basically imposed a lockdown. From the Graun's ticker...:

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The Czech government on Wednesday ordered most shops and services to shutter and sought to limit all movement to essential trips such as for work and medical visits to curb Europe’s fastest growth in new coronavirus infections.

The health minister Roman Prymula said the Czech health system would soon reach the limits of its capacity and that hospitals would run short of beds in November without immediate action.

It comes as the country recorded a record daily rise of 11,984 new coronavirus infections on Tuesday, amid a surge in recent weeks. The number of people who died of Covid-19 rose to 1,619 from 1,513 over the past 24 hours in the country of more than 10 million.
106 deaths in one day is very scary.
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Old 21.10.2020, 14:17
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If you like Sweden so much, why don't you move there?
Sweden is now the favourite country of right-wing libertarians, I could have never imagined...
Unfortunately most of them are too selfish to move there and pay half of their income in taxes...
That's original, it must have taken you a long time to come up with that one wasn't it Donald Trump who was using similar language last year?

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Even if it is "thousands" (I doubt), how about the many many thousands more that do support masks etc.?

Or are we only supposed to listen to the ones that agree with you?
You're supposed to weigh up the evidence and take a decision accordingly. The evidence shows us that masks are having an insignificant effect on the increase in Covid infections.
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Old 21.10.2020, 14:18
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Yes it would. Or better still ‘Daily hospitalisations up to 115‘ as it’s not really a rate.

I wasn’t meaning to be pedantic but the way you wrote it initially made it sound as if that was the total number of hospitalisations.
I remember rightly it was you who was studying for the Cambridge proficiency exam so I hoped you wouldn’t mind.
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Old 21.10.2020, 14:20
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On media: I could very easily argue that even so-called reputable media outlets have descended into hysterical, sensationalist, utterly unbalanced "reporting".
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I wouldn't go so far as saying it's intentional censorship - ..
I would. The choice for popular (ie. clicks) is intentional. Anywhere where currency is involved it is intentional. But the motivation for long term gain vs short term shows. Long term = usually smarter.

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Decent journalism has a role not only to report, but to build opinions. If those opinions are entirely one-sided, that's in no way a good thing.
Not just that but good reporting also makes space for the reader to construct their own opinion. It is rare these days. It is faster (easier gain) to make the reader feel as if they made their own opinion by affective manipulation, anxiety, ovation.

Laziness rules.

I want just a list of data, based on chronology, not much else so I could do the work myself. Not based on their algorithm of who as a reader/consumer I might be. It will not be right.

Real newspapers are dying away not because of internet and digital form. But because they dumbed stuff down. Their manipulative algorithms of assumed consumers did not work, long term. It's just my theory.
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Old 21.10.2020, 14:21
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Teachers are slowly organizing their lessons for the next lockdown, just in case.
Yes, I hope I can finish the second set of grades in all my classes before we have to close again.
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