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Old 03.11.2020, 15:06
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Reading this gloom and doom thread i can see why people have panic attacks. Panic mode = weaker immune system. And then some say, that covid causes hair loss. For sure. Stressing 24/7 is also causing hair loss.
Not always true.

I decided to stop shaving / cut hair since this started in Q1.


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Old 03.11.2020, 15:10
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The intensive care units in Switzerland currently have 27 percent capacity left. "If the numbers continue to grow as they are now, the intensive care units will be full in five days," warns Virginie Masserey, Head of Infection Control at the FOPH.

https://www.srf.ch/news/schweiz/das-...ensivstationen
I just wonder how many ICU beds are needed per day for non-covid events: accidents, heart problems, birth complications, etc. Is the capacity left total beds of beds for covid? My DE is not that good to understand that.
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I don't think the stats are unreliable because nothing's perfect in this world. It's just that there's a delay between events, reporting and compiling all the data. So, decisions need to be taken in the context of 1 week delay in information.
Except when one sizeable canton actually admits officially they are only testing perhaps 30% of suspected cases, you KNOW their numbers are unreliable - basically puts in the situation we were in in March/April. And given that the testing facilities cannot keep up I'm sure there are others that haven't fessed up yet.

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I just wonder how many ICU beds are needed per day for non-covid events: accidents, heart problems, birth complications, etc. Is the capacity left total beds of beds for covid? My DE is not that good to understand that.
Look here:

https://www.srf.ch/news/schweiz/coro...n-wegen-corona
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None of these support what you say and they are from August, with the exception the one about India.

So again, fear mongering at its best
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Old 03.11.2020, 17:25
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Btw are we supposed to wear masks on empty streets too, in ZH? I don't want to be shouted at again. It was funny, but I was a bit shaken, old lady really gave it to me hard
I just learnt today that singing and shouting spread it the best. Tell the lady that next time. (Pity about the singing though).

As to your other post: Are you supposed to throw your used mask in a public bin?
My used masks go into a plastic bag in the car and from there into my own bin.
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Old 03.11.2020, 18:13
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Btw are we supposed to wear masks on empty streets too, in ZH? I don't want to be shouted at again.
No. The advice is:

'Masks are also compulsory in busy pedestrian areas and wherever the required distance cannot be maintained in public spaces.' https://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/gud/de/...guages/en.html

Thing is, in the immediate aftermath of last Wednesday's press briefing, I saw a few initial reports of the rules changes where it was interpreted as 'masks must be worn in commercial and residential areas.' It's been clarified since, but this lady may have missed it.
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And here we go - Canton Vaud closes from tomorrow 17.00

Museums, cinemas, concert halls and theaters, casinos, game rooms, leisure establishments, sports and wellness centers (fitness, etc.). The study areas (reading rooms, libraries) remain open. Night clubs and discos remain closed.

https://www.vd.ch/toutes-les-actuali...essite-et-dur/
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Old 03.11.2020, 18:22
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And here we go - Canton Vaud closes from tomorrow 17.00

Museums, cinemas, concert halls and theaters, casinos, game rooms, leisure establishments, sports and wellness centers (fitness, etc.). The study areas (reading rooms, libraries) remain open. Night clubs and discos remain closed.

https://www.vd.ch/toutes-les-actuali...essite-et-dur/
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Children under 16 can practice sport normally, indoors or outdoors, with the exception of competitions. Between 12 and 16 years old, they must wear the mask indoors.
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Old 03.11.2020, 18:32
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I just wonder how many ICU beds are needed per day for non-covid events: accidents, heart problems, birth complications, etc. Is the capacity left total beds of beds for covid? My DE is not that good to understand that.
Normally in winter occupancy is pretty high. A benefit of social distancing is that the people who would be in with influenza are unlikely to be present this year if the Southern Hemisphere is anything to go by.
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Old 03.11.2020, 18:34
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Are the Covid prevention rules the same in every canton? I am more curious about the rules for kids in grades 7 to 9th (BEZ/SEK/...).

Must students wear masks 100% of the time? Do kids have sports class indoors? If so, do they wear masks or not? What about the teachers? Do they wear masks non-stop while in school and classrooms or are they allowed to remove them if they are "sufficiently far".
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Old 03.11.2020, 18:45
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And here we go - Canton Vaud closes from tomorrow 17.00

Museums, cinemas, concert halls and theaters, casinos, game rooms, leisure establishments, sports and wellness centers (fitness, etc.). The study areas (reading rooms, libraries) remain open. Night clubs and discos remain closed.

https://www.vd.ch/toutes-les-actuali...essite-et-dur/
Fribourg canton just announced similar.

"The canton of Friborg announces a new turn of the screw to contain the second wave of Covid-19. It will close from Wednesday at 11:00 p.m., and until November 30, restaurants, bars, theaters, cinemas, museums, leisure and fitness centers as well as swimming pools."

"Shops and personal service activities (hairdressers and beauty salons) are not affected by a closure. The practice of prostitution and related activities, such as erotic massages, is prohibited."

https://www.bluewin.ch/fr/infos/suis...ts-457139.html

Guess ordinary massages are okay then.
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Are the Covid prevention rules the same in every canton? I am more curious about the rules for kids in grades 7 to 9th (BEZ/SEK/...).

Must students wear masks 100% of the time? Do kids have sports class indoors? If so, do they wear masks or not? What about the teachers? Do they wear masks non-stop while in school and classrooms or are they allowed to remove them if they are "sufficiently far".
Nope. The rules by the "Bundesrat" are binding. Cantons can make them tougher. So you need to regularly check the rules of your canton yet know the minimum.

PS where can I actually see what canton Zurich doesn't want me to do? Is there a straight daily way or do I need to google every time?
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Are the Covid prevention rules the same in every canton? I am more curious about the rules for kids in grades 7 to 9th (BEZ/SEK/...).

Must students wear masks 100% of the time? Do kids have sports class indoors? If so, do they wear masks or not? What about the teachers? Do they wear masks non-stop while in school and classrooms or are they allowed to remove them if they are "sufficiently far".
In Vaud they must wear a mask at all time, indoor and outdoor, except for sports lessons where they must keep their distance from each other and avoid contact games. Neither teachers nor kids can remove their masks except for eating or drinking.
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And here we go - Canton Vaud closes from tomorrow 17.00

Museums, cinemas, concert halls and theaters, casinos, game rooms, leisure establishments, sports and wellness centers (fitness, etc.). The study areas (reading rooms, libraries) remain open. Night clubs and discos remain closed.

https://www.vd.ch/toutes-les-actuali...essite-et-dur/

Do you know if garages are also closed? I have an appointment to test drive a car in Crissier at 6 pm tomorrow
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Old 03.11.2020, 20:17
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Do you know if garages are also closed? I have an appointment to test drive a car in Crissier at 6 pm tomorrow
Doesn't seem so, and garages we deemed essential in Geneva too.
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Old 03.11.2020, 20:46
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The growth is coming down for "a week" now so this is realy good. The trend is there.
There were over 50 new cases last week in the little village I live in which has a few more than five thousand inhabitants; that is an uncomfortably high ratio
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Yeah, not the best time to need to go to hospital.

Indeed, the doctor on the video advises against any injury-prone activity. He says they don't know what they're going to do if they receive a trauma patient this weekend.
People probably have been following that advice all year. That would explain why the weekly deaths were in the lower half or third of the statistical range since after the Covid spike. A trend that stopped with the current spike, unsurprisingly.
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There were over 50 new cases last week in the little village I live in which has a few more than five thousand inhabitants; that is an uncomfortably high ratio
I believe you but even the taskforce is talking about the good trend. I was watching the press conference and its true about the tests being delayed - but they talk only about very small amount of delayed tests. No big surprise will come out of it.
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The growth is coming down for "a week" now so this is realy good. The trend is there.
Do you misunderstand what is happening? A lower rate of growth means numbers are still increasing. The doubling time has slowed from 6.5 days to 9.5 days. The best you could say about the trend is that it's less negative.

And again the BAG have admitted undercounting for the last days.
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I believe you but even the taskforce is talking about the good trend
Good trend? Where? Must have missed this. Please share what the TF has published in that respect.

I see 300 hospitalizations and at best a plateau in cases. At 26% positivity still.
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