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Old 05.11.2020, 12:55
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If anyone would like to educate themselves on why vaccines are targeted to give a more comprehensive immunity to Covid than the natural,response, the Guardian's Science Weekly has a very good interview.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/...accine-podcast
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Corrected!!

Also from the Tribune de Geneve
https://interactif.tdg.ch/2020/covid...enincontroller (paywall)


"73% of the 1,158 Swiss intensive care beds are currently occupied. The occupation of intensive care beds for a selection of cantons: Fribourg 96%, Jura 88%, Neuchâtel 85%, Geneva 83% and Vaud 83%.
The positivity rate over the last seven days is 27.6% for a total of 202,680 tests performed. The previous week, 25.3% of tests were positive (for a total of 202,429 tests).
The cantons with the highest incidence of new cases in the last two weeks are: Valais (2,733 new cases per 100,000 inhabitants), Geneva (2,726) and Fribourg (2,476). The greatest variations in incidence, compared to a week ago, are in the cantons of: Friborg (+953 new cases per 100,000 inhabitants), Geneva (+917) and Jura (+783)."

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Re: Coronavirus

Welsh lockdown going well.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-54824485


How are they going to get out of that now?
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Re: Coronavirus

Sweden and Germany are now included in UK quarantine list.

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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-54824485


How are they going to get out of that now?
Swiss numbers are not better. So I guess the order of the day (or month) is brace, brace, brace and just go through.
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Re: Coronavirus

I've heard of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles but this new outbreak in Denmark looks scary, so watch
out for the Mutant Ninja Covid Minks !!

BBC News - Denmark imposes lockdowns amid Mink Covid fears
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Old 05.11.2020, 21:49
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Buses were empty today, what happened?
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No old ladies shouting at you????...This must be the end
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Or sitting on your lap? Boring stuff, but I guess the news are pulled to the other battle of the geezers
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Old 06.11.2020, 08:08
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They must be avoiding the bus and going for a cruise on their rollator instead Week is not fully over yet, hopefully I run into something entertaining
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Old 06.11.2020, 10:45
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Re: Coronavirus

116,000 new US cases today and over 1,000 deaths, hopefully when Trump is gone they will make serious efforts to reduce the toll.
I do not know if they will be successful but it is proven that trying to ignore the virus simply does not work
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Re: Coronavirus

Todays number 9409 out of 38k tests
231 hospitalisations
70 death
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Phew .. Looks like the curve is flattening ..
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Flattening slightly downwards
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Just to put things into perspective: Swiss numbers adjusted to the US population would be 350.000 cases and 2660 deaths. Pretty solid.
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Not really. Still 2% above last Friday but more importantly the 7 day average is still increasing - this is now at 7,642 so the last 3 days have still pushed it up significantly.

Equally important, the positive rate of tests is still massively too high - it remains certain the number of cases is being signiificantly undercounted.

Still early days but this is pointing at the probability that the current measures are insufficient. Kanton Bern have appealed for a re-introduction of the state of emergency.
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is there an article that references this?
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On the Tages Anzeiger ticker.

Just found a separate report here.
https://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/der-bun...n-951204675147
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Re: Coronavirus

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Not really. Still 2% above last Friday but more importantly the 7 day average is still increasing - this is now at 7,642 so the last 3 days have still pushed it up significantly.

Equally important, the positive rate of tests is still massively too high - it remains certain the number of cases is being signiificantly undercounted.

Still early days but this is pointing at the probability that the current measures are insufficient. Kanton Bern have appealed for a re-introduction of the state of emergency.
Not sure I can agree with that. Unless the positivity is increasing its suggesting the peak is imminent (within the next week or so). The apparent R has been falling for a while, and continues to do so, and seems to be only very slightly above 1 at present.

You could still be right - but I don't think the data is there to show that the current measures won't contain the wave. We do at least appear to be close enough that action should be cantonal - the West of Switzerland is broadly a lot worse off than the East.

There's 113,000 people diagnosed as currently having the infection. Reality must be much larger with the high positivity rate. We are probably talking 300k minimum. The wave surely is going to burn itself out pretty shortly given that many people are locking themselves down and thus are at low risk of infection.

At the end of the day, we are likely to be getting around 200k infections a week - that can't continue for that much longer. If R is naturally 4, its going to fall by 0.1 per week as a result of natural infection. That's got to help.

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At the end of the day, we are likely to be getting around 200k infections a week - that can't continue for that much longer. If R is naturally 4, its going to fall by 0.1 per week as a result of natural infection. That's got to help.
That would still leave you with R=3 after two months. That's not even the usefulness of a drop in the bucket.
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