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Reported UK cases have tailed off at around 20,000 per day for two and a half weeks now. Some way off the scenario of doom from Chris Whitty and Patrick Vallance. Also a long way off from the Imperial College model of nearly 100,000 cases a day.
20,000 is the number of positive tests per day. And the number of undiagnosed SARS-COV-2-positive people is...?

By the way, this is the same Vallance who stated in March that 20,000 deaths would be a "good" outcome for the UK. The death toll currently stands at just under 50,000. So which is he, alarmist or conservative?
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Old 09.11.2020, 10:25
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Any new estimates on what % of Swiss population might have had Covid-19 already?
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Old 09.11.2020, 10:54
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I usually take 20minutes articles with a large pinch of salt...
Same, but I am on other forums, have friends who are parents and it seems to be the general message coming from the youth...and they were the drivers amongst the initial infections.

People just don't seem to understand short term suffering for long term gain anymore.
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17309 new cases out of 73k tests (numbers for fri, sat & sun)
536 hospitalisations
169 death

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Old 09.11.2020, 12:24
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17309 new cases out of 73k tests
536 hospitalisations
169 death

(*) weekend numbers, not sure about 17K detected cases and 169 deaths in a day.
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(*) weekend numbers, not sure about 17K detected cases and 169 deaths in a day.
That would have been really scary
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Old 09.11.2020, 12:41
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That's not looking too bad, have we crested the second infection peak? Or are there still a bunch of people awaiting tests?
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That's not looking too bad, have we crested the second infection peak? Or are there still a bunch of people awaiting tests?
Yes - many people aren't getting tested as they are turned away or they don't feel like going through the hassle.

Of course there will be some improvement with the measures made, also with people feeling more afraid to socialize - but it is still not enough.
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Old 09.11.2020, 12:47
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That's not looking too bad, have we crested the second infection peak? Or are there still a bunch of people awaiting tests?
It seems the detected cases peaked around 10K per day, the 2nd peak might have been last week....but more data is needed for a conclusion. On 1 or 2 weeks it can be confirmed https://twitter.com/BAG_OFSP_UFSP/st...881680896?s=20
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Yes - many people aren't getting tested as they are turned away or they don't feel like going through the hassle.

Of course there will be some improvement with the measures made, also with people feeling more afraid to socialize - but it is still not enough.
Well we can up the warnings until people are terrified to even speak to another human.
Hopefully whatever backlog there is can be worked through and we get the % of positives down.
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Old 09.11.2020, 12:56
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Hopefully whatever backlog there is can be worked through and we get the % of positives down.
Yes, with the roll out of rapid tests it should. But I am not too positive about the upcoming holiday celebrations, ski season and impending colder weather. And what if the harder hit cantons reopen bars, restaurants etc.? I believe we need to get the numbers down substantially more in order to feel comfortable.

I live in the city center of Bern and it is still fully busy - the only difference is that you can hear the reduction in traffic late at night due to the clubs being closed. But what I don't understand is the canton of Bern said that "bars must close", but every bar or pub on my street is open. Not sure how that has happened...

Update on my neighbor: Landlord said he is OK. (I am guessing he has been unwell and staying quietly at home more for recovery, did not reveal more details.)
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Old 09.11.2020, 13:01
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How exciting, the poster might change again to a less scary colour.

I'm looking forward to a festive coloured new poster for Christmas.
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Old 09.11.2020, 13:02
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Re: Coronavirus

Preliminary results for the Pfizer/Bio-N-Tech vaccine look positive. Still more testing and distribution hurdles (storage of the vaccine requires super low temperatures). For those who follow this stuff, markets are happy.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/11/09/...rial-indicate/

In other news, Biden has announced a very experienced team to lead his corona virus advisory panel.
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Old 09.11.2020, 13:04
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How exciting, the poster might change again to a less scary colour.

I'm looking forward to a festive coloured new poster for Christmas.
Isn’t red festive enough for you?
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20,000 is the number of positive tests per day. And the number of undiagnosed SARS-COV-2-positive people is...?

By the way, this is the same Vallance who stated in March that 20,000 deaths would be a "good" outcome for the UK. The death toll currently stands at just under 50,000. So which is he, alarmist or conservative?
That's true, then the UK went into lockdown and ended up with 45,000 deaths. I have far more understanding for what was predicted back in March given our lack of understanding of the virus back then, less so now though.

If there were more people who had Covid as a proportion of the population, one would expect to see more people testing positive for Covid. As it is, this has remained relatively stable now for 2.5 weeks.

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This time last week it was 22,000, have we turned a corner?
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Yes, with the roll out of rapid tests it should. But I am not too positive about the upcoming holiday celebrations, ski season and impending colder weather. And what if the harder hit cantons reopen bars, restaurants etc.? I believe we need to get the numbers down substantially more in order to feel comfortable.

I live in the city center of Bern and it is still fully busy - the only difference is that you can hear the reduction in traffic late at night due to the clubs being closed. But what I don't understand is the canton of Bern said that "bars must close", but every bar or pub on my street is open. Not sure how that has happened...

Update on my neighbor: Landlord said he is OK. (I am guessing he has been unwell and staying quietly at home more for recovery, did not reveal more details.)
Do they offer take away food? Could be an explanation as to why they are open.

Glad to hear that your neighbour is ok! I am sure he feels reassured to have a neighbour who cares
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Old 09.11.2020, 13:11
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This time last week it was 22,000, have we turned a corner?
It’s looking hopeful but I wouldn’t start celebrating just yet.
Several cantons restricted tests as they couldn’t keep up with demand and this could account for at least a part of the decrease in numbers.
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Does not look too bad.

This is still a lot of cases to be handled in the hospitals. Is there any statistic of hospital discharges? It would be nice to see us "rounding the corner" (haha) in terms of case numbers, but it needs to reach a level where hospitals can deal with it without being in crisis mode all the time.
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Old 09.11.2020, 13:14
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Yes, with the roll out of rapid tests it should. But I am not too positive about the upcoming holiday celebrations, ski season and impending colder weather. And what if the harder hit cantons reopen bars, restaurants etc.? I believe we need to get the numbers down substantially more in order to feel comfortable.
It took us a month to get to the current situation (from 1 to 31st Oct 2020), it would be reasonable to assume it takes another month to get a significant reduction in cases. So, 1st week of December if most people cooperate? The ski season may be OK.

The current increase followed the end of the ban of mass events. I'm sure the leaders of sports clubs and associations are hiding under a rock now.

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On August 12, the government announced that events with more than 1,000 people – notably festivals and sporting events – would be again allowed from October 1. .....National football and ice-hockey matches – the most popular sports events in Switzerland – will be again allowed to admit spectators, who must wear face masks and be seated. The maximum number of tickets sold must not exceed two-thirds of the normal capacity........Events companies, and in particular sports clubs and associations, have been lobbying for restrictions to be lifted, arguing that many clubs and businesses would go bust if the 1,000-person limit remained in force. The easing comes despite recommendations by the government’s Covid-19 taskforce not to lift such restrictions for mass events.
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