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Old 16.11.2020, 20:08
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Just wait until the Russians say their vaccine is now 95% effective too!
They'll say 200%.
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Old 16.11.2020, 21:37
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Re: Coronavirus

Austria starts the 3-week lockdown tonight. All shops must remain closed except foodstores, banks, drugstores and pharmacies. There's also a curfew in place. It is hoped that this will allow a cautious reopening for xmas.
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Old 16.11.2020, 22:13
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At least the vaccines are finally starting to look more promising now. I wonder if Trump has tried to take credit for the Moderna vaccine yet.
He has.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...en-coronavirus

(I've linked to a oress report rather than Trump's tweet so I don't drag you to the cesspool that is Trump's twitter account)

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Old 16.11.2020, 22:22
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Re: Coronavirus

Copying into here as I don't want to mess up the other thread but this type of thing is the only reason the intensive care beds are not quite full. Yet

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I would have a surgery in Hirslanden Zürich, but it cannot be done because the whole icu is full of Covid patent. My problem is potentially dangerous so I would need a solution quickly. Does somebody know until when do they want to block everything due the Covid?
So don't go needing a cardiac bypass or any other major surgery requiring post operative ic care because you probably won't get it unless you really are at deaths door.
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Old 16.11.2020, 22:42
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According to the BBC.
It seems that the Moderna vaccine is looking good, the trials are showing an effective 94.5% at stopping the symptoms.
Let's hope it's all now going to come out in the wash, I suppose we'll have to suck it and see.
I'm pretty sure the vaccine will be delivered intramuscularly or intradermally. Not orally.

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Most Czechs don't for now think they'll get vaccinated against Covid when the vaccine comes.
Firstly, I'm happy to see proof that the lockdown in the Czech Republic is working so well.

But if people there refuse the vaccine, the country is doomed to another round of COVID-19, and perhaps more. Worldwide blanket vaccination is most likely the best chance we have to wipe out this coronavirus for good, à la smallpox and (almost) polio.
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Old 16.11.2020, 22:44
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Copying into here as I don't want to mess up the other thread but this type of thing is the only reason the intensive care beds are not quite full. Yet



So don't go needing a cardiac bypass or any other major surgery requiring post operative ic care because you probably won't get it unless you really are at deaths door.
I just posted on the other thread https://www.englishforum.ch/family-m...covid-icu.html (to which you refer) that the hospitals state that they are, indeed, still carrying out procedures, including operations. But they will, of course, be sorting out which are the most urgent.

But perhaps we should leave that particular discussion back in that thread.
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At least the vaccines are finally starting to look more promising now. I wonder if Trump has tried to take credit for the Moderna vaccine yet.
https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/...order-from-u-s

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He has.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...en-coronavirus

(I've linked to a oress report rather than Trump's tweet so I don't drag you to the cesspool that is Trump's twitter account)
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/27/mode...velopment.html
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Old 17.11.2020, 00:27
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I just posted on the other thread https://www.englishforum.ch/family-m...covid-icu.html (to which you refer) that the hospitals state that they are, indeed, still carrying out procedures, including operations. But they will, of course, be sorting out which are the most urgent.

But perhaps we should leave that particular discussion back in that thread.
I didn't want the general discussion to mix in with that poster's problem.

What is clear is that, whatever might be claimed, operations needing intensive care are being delayed. Intensive bed occupancy for non-covid patiients is at about half normal levels. That reduction does not happen without deliberate intervention and that poster's story tells us what is being done.
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Old 17.11.2020, 01:06
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Re: Coronavirus

Schwyz has dropped to the least amount of new infections in Switzerland. People have been taking safety measures seriously which seems to have worked. What a relief!
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Old 17.11.2020, 07:59
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We're in a bit of a strange predicament (or were). My son, 9 yrs old, developed a cold on Friday evening and was sick through the weekend. It started with a sore throat, then a runny nose and then a slight cough, but he is much better today. He never developed a fever. We kept him home from school today, though.

My doctor's office had told me a few weeks ago to only come in for a COVID test if I develop a fever.

So now I have my son's same symptoms -- very bad sore throat yesterday (a bit better today) but now a sinus headache and runny nose (no cough yet). No fever. I called my doctor to see if I should get tested because I didn't know if to send my son to school, since he's better now in terms of symptoms but we have no idea if it's COVID. So even though I don't have a fever, I feel that we need to be tested because I certainly wouldn't want to send him to school if it is. My doctor said to call my son's doctor and have him tested and then if that's positive, then I can get a test. So right now, my son is off to his doctor's office to get a test. They said they might do a rapid test on him. (His papa is taking him, as papa has no symptoms). Fingers crossed.

Anyways... Sorry to ramble. I just feel that it doesn't really make sense to only do a test if an adult has a fever because then you could have parents sending their kids to school with the virus and not knowing it... especially since fever doesn't usually kick in until quite a while after one becomes contagious. Ugh... What a mess.
This is a nice example highlighting just how badly the epidemic management has gone here.

Testing of anyone with any cold-like symptoms whatsoever should be an absolute basic of epidemic management. People need to know if they are infected and that there therefore is a reason for them to isolate - and for anyone they have been in contact with over the previous 3 days to themselves isolate and get tested.

Do test-trace-isolate properly and the epidemic will be largely controlled. But at the current infection level the tracking no longer works and if we combine that with a completely inadequate testing regime then we almost may as well give up.

Glad to hear your son's test was negative btw!
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Old 17.11.2020, 09:40
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This is a nice example highlighting just how badly the epidemic management has gone here.
Someone develops some of the symptoms, but no fever. Parents are rightfully worried and want to test and the systems allows them to still do the test which is being done. Where exactly did you see "how badly the epidemic management has gone"?
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This is a nice example highlighting just how badly the epidemic management has gone here.

Testing of anyone with any cold-like symptoms whatsoever should be an absolute basic of epidemic management. People need to know if they are infected and that there therefore is a reason for them to isolate - and for anyone they have been in contact with over the previous 3 days to themselves isolate and get tested.

Do test-trace-isolate properly and the epidemic will be largely controlled. But at the current infection level the tracking no longer works and if we combine that with a completely inadequate testing regime then we almost may as well give up.

Glad to hear your son's test was negative btw!
In other words; government should test everyone and tell every adult what to do if they have sniffles?
How about this; you get the sniffles, assume the worst and self isolate. No unreliable testing required.
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Re: Coronavirus

300 million doses of Moderna's vaccine to be made in Valais yearly:

https://in.reuters.com/article/us-he...-idINKBN27W1N0
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300 million doses of Moderna's vaccine to be made in Valais yearly:

https://in.reuters.com/article/us-he...-idINKBN27W1N0
If they are made here, can Switzerland pull a German maneuver and declare them as vital goods that can't be exported?
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Re: Coronavirus

This article makes me so sad ... Covidiots denying and expressing anger until the very end:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1724026.html
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If they are made here, can Switzerland pull a German maneuver and declare them as vital goods that can't be exported?

I don't see how we can use 300 million doses unless we're vaccinated at least a dozen times
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Just thought I'd post a little update regarding my son's test earlier this evening...

They ended up doing a rapid test on him (a swab in the mouth, rather than in the nose -- he said it was uncomfortable but didn't hurt at all). They said they'd call us within 15-30 minutes if it was positive, and that was an hour ago. We haven't heard anything from them, so I assume it was negative.

I'm still worried about a false negative, though, as they seem to be quite common. And I feel like I'm still unsure if I should send him to school tomorrow, since I have symptoms (although he no longer has any).

Also, I found it a bit odd that his doctor's office said that it should have actually been me that was getting tested rather than him, even though my family doctor had told me the opposite. So as it is now, because my son tested negative, I cannot get a test at my dr's office unless or until I have a fever.
I'm glad everything's all right for your son, Pancakes. Hang in there. It's getting a bit like a roller coaster of emotions as one will hear of more cases among acquaintances, colleagues etc. I'm trying to remain optimistic and relatively calm, hope you'll do the same.
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Re: Coronavirus

Interesting....
Swiss health economist calls for severe punishments for corona skeptics. Including hefty fines, barring them from ICU beds if limited , etc

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.lem...9-336082878013
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I don't see how we can use 300 million doses unless we're vaccinated at least a dozen times
In for a penny in for a pound, I want each of my organs jabbed twice!
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Interesting....
Swiss health economist calls for severe punishments for corona skeptics. Including hefty fines, barring them from ICU beds if limited , etc

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.lem...9-336082878013
Well, it might not be ethical as it's not their fault they're idiots but...one might be tempted to think like this along the way. I suppose people should be held responsible for their acts..
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