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Old 18.11.2020, 16:15
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Prague’s Letňany COVID-19 Field Hospital Hasn’t Treated a Single Coronavirus Patient

The temporary field hospital at Prague Exhibition Center in Letňany was meant to care for any overflow of patients suffering from severe COVID-19 symptoms. One month later, not one single patient has been admitted, Česká televize reports.

The lease of the space has so far cost 26 million CZK. (1M EUR)
When that hospital was finished being built, new restrictions were put into place and all bars, restaurants, and schools were closed and public gatherings were limited to two people. Those tighter restrictions went into effect on October 21st. And then even more restrictions went into effect on October 28th. Those restrictions have resulted in a decline in the number of new cases as well as hospitalizations.

You can see in the chart below that, beginning October 28th, there began a sudden, significant decline in the number of new cases in CZ. Simultaneously, there was also a decline in the number of hospitalizations. If those restrictions had not been put in place, I think it's safe to assume that the Letňany field hospital would have been rendered necessary.

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Old 18.11.2020, 16:16
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And yet impossible as there's simply no mechanism to "kick out" a member country.
By a rule of law?
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Old 18.11.2020, 16:19
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You wear one to protect others.

From your posts I'm beginning to understand why you find this a difficult concept to comprehend.
Something that isn't experimentally possible to prove in the general population.

All those mask mandates have had a great effect on "protecting others" so far
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You wear one to protect others.

From your posts I'm beginning to understand why you find this a difficult concept to comprehend.
And indeed, this is why medics wear them.

Incidentally I still think there is likely to be a small protective effect for yourself - which would not be inconsistent with the data. And a significant protective effect for higher quality masks - as per lancet data.

A cloth mask is much closer to wearing nothing than it is to wearing an N95.

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Re: Coronavirus

So they updated the list of places subject to travel restrictions (quarantine) today--only areas of french polynesia, land Oberösterreich and Land Salzburg; countries of Andorra, Luxembourg, Montenegro, and Czech are on it now.

And GVA canton, which has the most restrictions in place atm, has slightly relaxed some provisions as of 21 Nov. Businesses are now authorised such as personal services, e.g. hairdressers, therapists; sport coaching by appointment; sport training activities. Still limits of groups up to 5 on these though. Prostitution however remains prohibited.


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Old 18.11.2020, 16:54
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All those mask mandates have had a great effect on "protecting others" so far
You have continuously posted on here to point out that the numbers have decreased, why do you think that is?
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Old 18.11.2020, 17:01
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Something that isn't experimentally possible to prove in the general population.

All those mask mandates have had a great effect on "protecting others" so far
Also not possible to disprove as some do claim
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You have continuously posted on here to point out that the numbers have decreased, why do you think that is?
Social distancing.

Most masks I see round here are cloth - which will be of very limited help. I don't know why there hasn't been recommendation to ditch them in favour of better masks. It would be logical.
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Old 18.11.2020, 17:36
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Re: Coronavirus

Starting from Saturday Geneva will remove most of its restrictions placed few weeks ago
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Are we back to discussing masks? This is really going to be a long winter.
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Old 18.11.2020, 17:57
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Starting from Saturday Geneva will remove most of its restrictions placed few weeks ago
I think saying most of them is stretching it a bit.
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Re: Coronavirus

As for wearing masks...

Found this interesting, posted by a US Epidemiologist and Health Economist in the last few days.

Those US states without mask mandates nearly all fared much worse than those with mask mandate.

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Old 18.11.2020, 18:06
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I think saying most of them is stretching it a bit.
So what will stay closed? Restaurants and shops? What opens:

As of Saturday, hairdressers, barbers, therapists and other specialists in personal services will be able to reopen to the public. " This first relaxation will also apply to sports coaches authorized to exercise in fitness and other sports facilities with groups of up to five people, if the activity does not involve physical contact. For the general public, training will once again be possible in dedicated spaces.

In 10 days shops and restaurants are reopening, most likely before that.

So, stretching, really?
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So what will stay closed? Restaurants and shops? What opens:

As of Saturday, hairdressers, barbers, therapists and other specialists in personal services will be able to reopen to the public. " This first relaxation will also apply to sports coaches authorized to exercise in fitness and other sports facilities with groups of up to five people, if the activity does not involve physical contact. For the general public, training will once again be possible in dedicated spaces.

In 10 days shops and restaurants are reopening, most likely before that.

So, stretching, really?

Well in my view the majority of things remain closed:

bars, restaurants, shops, commerce, museums, cinemas, concert halls and theatres, casinos, leisure facilities, sports and wellness centres.

Public and private gatherings are still restricted to 5.

The only thing relaxed is hairdressers and the like and sport coaching/training.
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Old 18.11.2020, 18:21
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As for wearing masks...

Found this interesting, posted by a US Epidemiologist and Health Economist in the last few days.

Those US states without mask mandates nearly all fared much worse than those with mask mandate.
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So what will stay closed? Restaurants and shops? What opens:

As of Saturday, hairdressers, barbers, therapists and other specialists in personal services will be able to reopen to the public. " This first relaxation will also apply to sports coaches authorized to exercise in fitness and other sports facilities with groups of up to five people, if the activity does not involve physical contact. For the general public, training will once again be possible in dedicated spaces.

In 10 days shops and restaurants are reopening, most likely before that.

So, stretching, really?
Yes, really.

They have relaxed a few things but saying they have relaxed most of it is seriously stretching it.
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Re: Coronavirus

I was a bit surprised to see a little COVID-testing site pop up in our village of Greifensee the other day. It's a small, enclosed tent located outside the Apotheke.

Curiously, has anyone else noticed one of these suddenly appear in their town or village?
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You have continuously posted on here to point out that the numbers have decreased, why do you think that is?
Same reason numbers dropped off in March and April, a change of behaviour perhaps however nothing to do with wearing masks.

My biggest hunch is that the main reason numbers are decreasing has more to do with the virus burning itself out, as they do with every "wave" we see with similar cold and flu viruses before sometimes mutating and coming again.

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As for wearing masks...

Found this interesting, posted by a US Epidemiologist and Health Economist in the last few days.

Those US states without mask mandates nearly all fared much worse than those with mask mandate.
I most hope that a Epidemiologist and Health Economist DIDN'T post that. Pointing to the data from a single month doesn't prove anything!
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Oct. 25th seems to be the end of the data set. This is why I merely said "good signs", not something dramatic and prophetic (eg. baboon style)
Oh as has been posted before the data is available, currently up to 8 November. For that week there were about 550 excess deaths. The week before close to 400 excess.

So as far as deaths are concerned certainly no current good signs.

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I was a bit surprised to see a little COVID-testing site pop up in our village of Greifensee the other day. It's a small, enclosed tent located outside the Apotheke.

Curiously, has anyone else noticed one of these suddenly appear in their town or village?
Must be that they have recieved the rapid tests.
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