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Still, Switzerland adopted a much more relaxed approach, and it seems to be working, despite the zealots in this thread who were sowing panic and ridiculousness since page 1 and insisting more needs to be done since the "new" measures were announced. It's not over till it's over, but I am glad that we've maintained a sense of normality: offices, schools, shops, gyms, hairdressers - all is open here.
Such a nice, accurate and constructive post. You should be very proud of yourself!

Btw, is this forced polarisation on EF still amusing for some?

In real life people I know are all glad that we've maintained a sense of normality. The responsible ones don't take it for granted though and still act very carefully.
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Old 20.11.2020, 16:03
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Such a nice, accurate and constructive post.
Thank you!
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Re: Coronavirus

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Coronavirus: Basel-Stadt tightens cantonal Covid-19 regulation

  • November 20, 2020 (2:29 pm)
  • Press release
  • Government Council

In the canton of Basel-Stadt, the number of Covid-19 cases is rising sharply and is a heavy burden on health care. In order to counteract the further spread of the pandemic in the canton of Basel-Stadt and to prevent the hospitals from becoming overburdened, the Basel-Stadt government council is tightening the cantonal Covid-19 regulation: it provides for several measures to be taken on Monday, November 23, 2020 come into force and are limited to Sunday, December 13, 2020.

Unfortunately, the number of cases in the canton of Basel-Stadt has not declined since the Covid-19 regulation came into force, and with it the tightened national measures at the end of October. The development of Basel-Stadt thus runs contrary to the Swiss trend. New highs have occurred in the past few days, and occupancy in hospitals is increasing worryingly. So far, no actual sources of infection have been identified, the sources of infection are rather broad.
The Basel-Stadt government council has therefore decided to take further measures for a limited period of three weeks. The new measures in the cantonal Covid-19 ordinance will come into effect on Monday, November 23, 2020:
  • Restaurants are closed to the public. Exceptions are company and school canteens, street kitchens, restaurants connected to hotels for hotel guests, delivery services for meals and take-away.
  • Take-away must remain closed between 11 p.m. and 5 a.m.
  • Gyms, indoor swimming pools, dance studios, fitness and wellness centers, ice sports facilities and the interiors of other sports facilities and sports stadiums, including the cloakrooms, are closed. There are exceptions for primary school students, secondary school students for alternative teaching and professional athletes.
  • In addition, gaming salons and casinos, interiors of leisure and entertainment facilities (namely youth meeting places or bowling and billiard centers) as well as erotic shops will be closed.
  • There is an upper limit of max. 15 people.
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Old 20.11.2020, 16:26
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Is it true that if you use public toilet, the virus can jump from the water on to one of your log and then somersault its way into your A-hole, thus infecting you? LMAO
I guess no one is going to answer my important real science question!
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Old 20.11.2020, 16:33
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I guess no one is going to answer my important real science question!
There's the ask a scientist thread...
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Terrible news for BS. I guess covid hysteria is taking over here. The lockdowners have won.
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Old 20.11.2020, 16:55
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Terrible news for BS. I guess covid hysteria is taking over here. The lockdowners have won.
'In the canton of Basel-Stadt, the number of Covid-19 cases is rising sharply and is a heavy burden on health care. In order to counteract the further spread of the pandemic in the canton of Basel-Stadt and to prevent the hospitals from becoming overburdened, the Basel-Stadt government council is tightening the cantonal Covid-19 regulation:'

I see no hysteria. I see see a government council weighing up it's options and living up to it's duty of care.
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There's the ask a scientist thread...
Everyone is a self-appointed scientist on this forum. Just watch out for that somersaulting virus, keep your butt cheeks clenched people
If there's something strange in your neighbourhood. Who you gonna call? Butt Clenchers LMAO
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Old 20.11.2020, 17:12
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Everyone is a self-appointed scientist on this forum.
No. There are serious scientists on this forum. I received very helpful advice about oncology research on that thread a number of years ago, which helped my family a great deal in coming to temrs with our nephew's terminal diagnosis.
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No. There are serious scientists on this forum. I received very helpful advice about oncology research on that thread a number of years ago, which helped my family a great deal in coming to temrs with our nephew's terminal diagnosis.

Yes off course there are some real scientists here, I was aiming at the ones who are not My question was light-hearted to cheer everyone up. Just the visual of a virus doing a somersault then jumping on poo to enter our back side made me laugh. Sorry about my toilet humour
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Everyone is a self-appointed scientist on this forum. Just watch out for that somersaulting virus, keep your butt cheeks clenched people
If there's something strange in your neighbourhood. Who you gonna call? Butt Clenchers LMAO
There are some of us with actual science PhDs
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Terrible news for BS. I guess covid hysteria is taking over here. The lockdowners have won.
I think its pretty reasonable. Cases are still going up. Its not doing the ultimate sin of shutting "non-essential shops", which is so obviously a complete waste of time, but instead targeting actual high risk activities.

A small and targeted invention is just right for what looks to be an R of c. 1.1.

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Yes off course there are some real scientists here, I was aiming at the ones who are not My question was light-hearted to cheer everyone up. Just the visual of a virus doing a somersault then jumping on poo to enter our back side made me laugh. Sorry about my toilet humour
Humor is welcome and i was expecting to answer you in a humorous way in the ask a scientist thread because my specialty is rocks and water, i know close to nothing about virus
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Wonder what the brothers Grimm would think
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Old 20.11.2020, 17:34
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Terrible news for BS. I guess covid hysteria is taking over here. The lockdowners have won.
It falls short of a lockdown as we can still go to work, still can do shopping. I find it completely odd though that a gym is closed, but a hair-saloon - not.
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It falls short of a lockdown as we can still go to work, still can do shopping. I find it completely odd though that a gym is closed, but a hair-saloon - not.
15 sq m of floor area per customer. Not so hard to see the difference.
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It falls short of a lockdown as we can still go to work, still can do shopping. I find it completely odd though that a gym is closed, but a hair-saloon - not.
Well at R = 1.1 (more or less), you don't need to close everything, just a little bit more than you have closed at the minute. Gyms with people panting and releasing huge volumes of air are probably worse than hairdressers.

I imagine people will still go to restaurants just over the "state line" - e.g. in Rheinfelden (the restaurant carparks in Frick are already full of German cars). But this is probably fine as it will considerably reduce numbers eating out nonetheless.
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I think its pretty reasonable. Cases are still going up. Its not doing the ultimate sin of shutting "non-essential shops", which is so obviously a complete waste of time, but instead targeting actual high risk activities.
Yes... "back home" in my country, people are locked for a month now (dreamland for lockdown lovers) and the numbers are stagnating at high levels. So I would be careful about saying what works and what not, what is high risk and what not and where will they stop.

Anyway, if you work in this industry you have a problem now. But i guess these people dont count.
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Old 20.11.2020, 17:42
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Well at R = 1.1 (more or less), you don't need to close everything, just a little bit more than you have closed at the minute.
This I get, it's just that it's a much more likely infection scenario when a hair-stylist is 30mm next to a customer, rather than in a gym where everyone is more or less at least a meter away and usually more. Anyways, it's decided, so not much point in debating here
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My question was light-hearted to cheer everyone up. Just the visual of a virus doing a somersault then jumping on poo to enter our back side made me laugh. Sorry about my toilet humour
Don't be. Your analogy reminded me of a particular class about bacteria which I sat for one of my food hygiene certs which kind of went like this...

Class: No effing way?
Tutor: Way!
Class: WTAF?!!!

Suddenly, loads of the guys I worked with began scrubbing up their elbows with a nail brush every time hey used the toilet.

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I find it completely odd though that a gym is closed, but a hair-saloon - not.
The reason they gave back in March was that hairdressers operate an appointment system, it's static and it's largely 1 to 1 for the duration, so track and trace is far easier. Gyms have shared facilities and shared equipment and you only need one person to be asymptomatic and not properly clean down a piece of equipment before moving onto the next. Agreed, it doesn't feel fair to gyms, and I've heard of gyms in the UK who have people employed to properly clean each piece of equipment after each individual use, but is their really any gym based exercise which can't be replicated in the open air? That's where their case for staying open falls down.
I'm saying that as someone who hasn't been to a hairdresser for over a decade but uses gym equipment several days a week.
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