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Re: Coronavirus

They will talk about the vaccines during todays pressconference

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Old 01.12.2020, 15:09
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Old 01.12.2020, 15:11
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Re: Coronavirus

What would be really helpful would be a breakdown of Coronavirus cases within the cantons with particularly high cases.
Surely each Gemeinde must be getting figures of local cases? Maybe the information is out there and someone can point me in the right direction?

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Old 01.12.2020, 15:13
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What would be really helpful would be a breakdown of Coronavirus cases within the cantons with particularly high cases.
Surely each Gemeinde must be getting figures of local cases? Maybe the information is out there and someone can point me in the right direction?

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For my canton at least you can see it by Wahlkreis on the canton's website. DOn't think they break down to individual Gemeinde, though.
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Old 01.12.2020, 15:16
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Re: Coronavirus

Another Swedish U-turn
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Even young children living with someone who has COVID-19 should stay at home according to the Public Health Agency of Sweden, which is changing its recommendations.
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Curfew on New Year's of 01h
until new year of 2022?
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Old 01.12.2020, 15:18
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Surely each Gemeinde must be getting figures of local cases? Maybe the information is out there and someone can point me in the right direction?

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Somebody posted this a while back. I'm not sure where it gets the info from so use at your own risk.

https://rsalzer.github.io/COVID_19_CH/
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Old 01.12.2020, 15:23
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Berset announcing new restrictions ahead of Christmas

Curfew on New Year's of 01h
This "curfew" makes me laugh - as if the virus is Cinderella and only becomes ugly/contagious after the stroke of 1 AM.
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Re: Coronavirus

"Vaccination doses will be delivered in the first half of 2021
The vaccination is awaited with great impatience, continues Virginie Masserey. «We have signed contracts with three companies, with which we can vaccinate around six million people. We receive vaccine doses from Moderna, Astra Zeneca and Pfizer and are in contact with other corporations to ensure that Switzerland has safe access to sufficient vaccine. ”

"The quality and safety of the vaccines have "top priority".
According to the therapeutic products authority Swissmedic, no approvals can be granted at this point in time . Important information is still missing from all candidates for a vaccine."

"The army is fundamentally responsible for the path of the vaccine from the acceptance by the producers to the acceptance point of the cantons. The final distribution is the responsibility of the cantons."

"The vaccinations will be free but not mandatory
Virginie Masserey gives an initial overview of the Swiss vaccination strategy. “We have several goals in this strategy. First of all, we want to reduce the burden of disease by reducing the number of serious cases and deaths. Second, we want to preserve the health system. The vaccinations will be free, but not compulsory. "

"Claus Bolte, Head of Authorization at Swissmedic, adds: “The prioritized target groups for vaccination are the people who are particularly at risk for Covid-19, then the health staff with care contact and the care staff for those at particular risk. When these groups have been vaccinated, the vaccination will be available to everyone else who wants to be vaccinated. "

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Old 01.12.2020, 15:47
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"Vaccination doses will be delivered in the first half of 2021
The vaccination is awaited with great impatience, continues Virginie Masserey. «We have signed contracts with three companies, with which we can vaccinate around six million people. We receive vaccine doses from Moderna, Astra Zeneca and Pfizer and are in contact with other corporations to ensure that Switzerland has safe access to sufficient vaccine. ”

"The quality and safety of the vaccines have "top priority".
According to the therapeutic products authority Swissmedic, no approvals can be granted at this point in time . Important information is still missing from all candidates for a vaccine."

"The army is fundamentally responsible for the path of the vaccine from the acceptance by the producers to the acceptance point of the cantons. The final distribution is the responsibility of the cantons."

"The vaccinations will be free but not mandatory
Virginie Masserey gives an initial overview of the Swiss vaccination strategy. “We have several goals in this strategy. First of all, we want to reduce the burden of disease by reducing the number of serious cases and deaths. Second, we want to preserve the health system. The vaccinations will be free, but not compulsory. "

"Claus Bolte, Head of Authorization at Swissmedic, adds: “The prioritized target groups for vaccination are the people who are particularly at risk for Covid-19, then the health staff with care contact and the care staff for those at particular risk. When these groups have been vaccinated, the vaccination will be available to everyone else who wants to be vaccinated. "

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Another Swedish U-turn
still irritating?
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Old 01.12.2020, 16:59
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Re: Coronavirus

Sensible decisions are based on the latest information not on these ancient historical stories.
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Old 01.12.2020, 17:20
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A very low herd effect.

Most other western European nations including Switzerland are probably in the region of 15-20% of people having been infected. Bear in mind that a disproportionate people in high risk professions (and also those who engage in high risk behaviour) will have had it - the effect on R is probably bigger than 15-20%.

Germany isn't anywhere near that, more like 5%.

The same explanation might see why French speaking Switzerland might finally begin to stop underperforming German speaking Switzerland with the same level of restrictions.
According to this group of 12 Swiss universities around 3% to 11% of the Swiss (varies by Canton) were infected up to the end of October.

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Old 01.12.2020, 17:32
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Re: Coronavirus

Interesting theory.

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The coronavirus was in the U.S. as early as mid-December 2019, a period earlier than officially identified in either China or the U.S., according to new research from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

The study, published Monday, found evidence of the virus in 106 of 7,389 blood donations to the Red Cross in nine states.

Antibodies were detected in 39 samples on the West Coast in Washington, Oregon and California, all of them collected between Dec. 13 and 16. Antibodies were detected in another 67 samples in Connecticut, Iowa, Massachusetts, Michigan, Rhode Island and Wisconsin.
Those samples were collected between Dec. 30 and Jan. 17.
Not the first time this theory was put forward but it seems to have more solid evidence than before.
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According to this group of 12 Swiss universities around 3% to 11% of the Swiss (varies by Canton) were infected up to the end of October.

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Over 50% of diagnosed cases and deaths have however been in November - so their method and mine (I made it about 15% for Switzerland.) come to reasonably similar numbers!

At the end of October I would have put at 6-7% nationwide - very consistent with their 3 to 11% per kanton.

Actually that is reassuring that my death rates (0.3% for second wave, 0.5% for first wave) I use to calculate a ballpark of the herd effect are pretty close to reality.

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Over 50% of diagnosed cases have however been in November - so their method and mine (I made it about 15% for Switzerland.) come to reasonably similar numbers!
How can you include recent cases in your argument for a higher herd protection from previous infections?
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How can you include recent cases in your argument for a higher herd protection from previous infections?
Sorry not entirely sure what you mean.

Very roughly I think the French bit of Switzerland had c. 10% infected by end of October, and the German part of Switzerland c. 5%. - thus the French bit had a higher herd effect already.

Germany itself really low - just a couple of %.
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Old 01.12.2020, 18:04
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Over 50% of diagnosed cases and deaths have however been in November - so their method and mine (I made it about 15% for Switzerland.) come to reasonably similar numbers!

At the end of October I would have put at 6-7% nationwide - very consistent with their 3 to 11% per kanton.

Actually that is reassuring that my death rates (0.3% for second wave, 0.5% for first wave) I use to calculate a ballpark of the herd effect are pretty close to reality.
The university study was not based on diagnosed cases.
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The university study was not based on diagnosed cases.
Sure but I was just using that to illustrate my point that data from the end of October is very out of date given the big November wave. The fact death rates have declined due to treatment advances yet their were more deaths in November than the whole of the first wave is indicative that most cases did indeed come recently.
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Sure but I was just using that to illustrate my point that data from the end of October is very out of date given the big November wave. The fact death rates have declined due to treatment advances yet their were more deaths in November than the whole of the first wave is indicative that most cases did indeed come recently.
Sure but you are assuming that the mathematical relationship between the number of diagnosed cases and the number of people with antibodies is the same in November as in the period before when there is no evidence to support this assumption.

Clearly, there will be more people with antibodies at the end of November versus the end of October but it is just a guess as to how many.
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