Potential Crisis at No. 10 as the distribution & vaccination of people in the UK against Covid 19
could be affected by the ongoing delays at the port of Felixstowe and the upcoming Brexit
delays at all other ports, due to the end of the transition period of UK - EU trade on the
31st December 2020 bearing in mind the vaccines produced in Belgium.

London Daily - Felixstowe port in chaos as Christmas and Brexit loom

Will anyway be a challenge to plan as nobody seems to know how long the vaccine conferred immunity will last.
It would be a shame if the immunity runs out before they finished the vaccinations and then have to start the second wave of vaccine distribution.

You are understandably confused. You think that only people with high anti-body titer are immune (protected) from Covid. This is a 5th grader understanding of human immune system. Please read more on the topic.

Expect more of the same, reportedly Tegnell Anders has been sidelined.
You sound like Ioannidis, sans his expertise. According to his predictions the entire US population has been infected about twice by now.

You seem nice.

I merely quoted a study that seems to disagree with your statement that the majority of recovered patients would not have antibodies.

Given that the number 1 vaccine producers in Europe will be the UK and then Switzerland, its really a crisis for everyone except in the UK if what you say is true.

Straw men much?
Many here have a hard time to understand quite simple concepts. Detectable anti-bodies are not the measure of immunity prevalence in population. However it could be used to estimate how many people were already infected with Covid based on % of severe cases in a population. Sever cases n. = cases with detectable anti-bodies.
Everyone who have been infected with Covid will develop natural immunity to it, whether detectable or not does not matter.

I hope you get it now.

I'm sure exceptions can be made allowing the articulated lorries to queue-jump and be expedited through any border controls. And it is very unlikely that there will be any stowaways on a truck chilled to -70C

OK so please comment on this
"630 deaths so far registered as a result of Covid-19 in Sweden this month, representing a death rate per capita ten times that of Norway, where just 30 deaths were recorded between October 28 and November 25."
"Per capita" takes account of the different population sizes.

Why do you keep posting about immunity?
This subtopic is about Covid seropositivity testing to estimate the %ge of Swiss people infected with COVID-19, nobody else here has used the word "immunity" in this context.

EU has already criticized the decision as neither the EMA nor FDA have approved it. A reminder, under normal circumstances vaccine development can take up to a decade or longer with more than 90% of them failing.

Risk/benefit ratio question but there are a lot of question still about this vaccine being touted as a miracle.

1. The vaccine was proven effective in reducing symptoms not transmission
   
2. The vaccine was tested against the base strain (We know there are at least 6 variants) so we have no idea on its effectiveness against other mutations much less the fact that inadequate research has been done to assess the impact or differences of these other strains
   
3. That duration of protection from symptoms? This cannot possibly be answered yet due to the obvious lack of FU.
   
4. Safety FU long-term - this is a pandora's box atm
   
5. This was an EUA application from Pfizer but none of their data has actually been published or peer reviewed - seems like a small point but this is a measure of quality control that is being left to federal regulatory agencies that are usually not staffed to provide rapid & substantial scrutiny & feedback

Not being cynical, just cautious

Worked for the 737Max...

The highlight of today's Number 10 Downing Street news conference with Boris's 'choice of words' conjuring
up all sorts of images in his speech.

It is almost a year since humanity has been tormented by Covid, across the world economic output
has plummeted and a million & half people have died; we have been waiting and hoping for the day
when the searchlights of science would pick out our invisible enemy and give us the power to
stop that enemy from making us ill & now the scientists have done it and they have used
the virus itself to perform a kind of biological jiu jitsu, to turn the virus on itself in the form
of a vaccine.

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Surely the time has come for Boris to 'circle the wagons' for a bit of herd immunity ?

Does anyone know what cycle threshold is used for the PCR tests in Switzerland?

WHO guidelines state 45 cycles, and I understand Switzerland follows WHO guidelines closely, but I can't find anything about the cycle threshold.

My basic knowledge about PCR is that the more cycles you do, the less meaningful the results.

I wonder what the gen is for the rapid antigen tests and the serlogical tests?

My reply was to this post that demonstrates you are posting links to data you don't understand and make conclusions that are incorrect.

You've connected seropositivity with an overall infection rate for cantons. I've tried to help you understand your error that is all.

I did not connect seropositivity with an overall infection rate for cantons, that was the 12 Swiss universities that I linked to.
I recommend you follow my link and tell them where they went wrong.

No strawman, that's exactly what Ioannidis did. And he failed miserably, despite his far superior expertise.

Perhaps you get it now.
There's always choppers and planes. The value density, plus the need to keep at least one vaccine at -70°C, may well make the transport costs pale in comparison to other aspects.

Dry ice is quite common and relatively easy to make. It is typically at -78.5°C. Logistics difficult but not impossible. In the third world more difficult but still not impossible.

I think seropositivity doesnt detects t-cells immunity

It says if you are part of a group of people then one person from the group has to give contact details. It says nothing about a person sitting alone at a table having to give contact details!