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Because the louder people need to talk, the more aerosols they spread.
makes sense
I'd limit talking time as well. or forbid talking at all. we all have chats in the end
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Old 08.12.2020, 16:43
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Zurich really doesn't care do they?

They have cancelled Sunday shopping after the 24th of December? Is there Sunday shopping after the 24th aside from Zurich HB? This is their answer from federal pressure to take additional measures? pffff
I think there is a day after Christmas, I can‘t recall.
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Old 08.12.2020, 16:54
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Probably to return all the unwanted Christmas presents?
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Old 08.12.2020, 16:58
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Probably to return all the unwanted Christmas presents?
Ja....just like America.
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Old 08.12.2020, 17:00
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Zurich really doesn't care do they?

They have cancelled Sunday shopping after the 24th of December? Is there Sunday shopping after the 24th aside from Zurich HB? This is their answer from federal pressure to take additional measures? pffff
A joke. Two weeks ago Rickli was still bitching how bad the French cantons had handled all this, and how they sent their patients to ZH hospitals. Maybe she should explain why her hospitals are getting fuller now.
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Old 08.12.2020, 17:25
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It's all political silly games. The Kantons like AG just stick it to the Bundesrat and let them deal with it. ZH and TG play the "we changed things" card, TG a little better.

The ZH cop-out with one week of home school is clearly thinking that keeping the kids out of circulation for 3 weeks might prevent the inevitable......

Friday will maybe see country-wide measures. It's a game of chess and we are the pawns.
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Old 08.12.2020, 17:27
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A joke. Two weeks ago Rickli was still bitching how bad the French cantons had handled all this, and how they sent their patients to ZH hospitals. Maybe she should explain why her hospitals are getting fuller now.
And tell her that just maybe there’ll be no room at the inn for the Swiss German patients in french cantonal hospitals should they need them.
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Old 08.12.2020, 17:32
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Zurich really doesn't care do they?

They have cancelled Sunday shopping after the 24th of December? Is there Sunday shopping after the 24th aside from Zurich HB? This is their answer from federal pressure to take additional measures? pffff

I am appalled at the lack of stricter rules in Zurich. I really hoped they would come up with better measured than that.
Lets hope the Federal council bring in further measures at the end of the week.
My seventeen year old son had to get tested today because somebody he goes to college with tested positive last week.Both myself and my husband are in a risk category, So although my son has no symptoms,we maybe not so fortunate to get off so lightly.
He has been told by the Canton of Zurich that the contact
Tracing is no longer able to keep up with the amount of people testing positive. That's how out of control it is.
It's about time people started taking this situation seriously!!
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Old 08.12.2020, 17:36
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It's all political silly games. The Kantons like AG just stick it to the Bundesrat and let them deal with it. ZH and TG play the "we changed things" card, TG a little better.

The ZH cop-out with one week of home school is clearly thinking that keeping the kids out of circulation for 3 weeks might prevent the inevitable......

Friday will maybe see country-wide measures. It's a game of chess and we are the pawns.
Chess? You mean that famous board game where the pro players think 15 moves ahead? is that how this feels to you?
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Old 08.12.2020, 17:51
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Chess? You mean that famous board game where the pro players think 15 moves ahead? is that how this feels to you?
haha good point, more like Russian Roulette.
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Old 08.12.2020, 17:51
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Chess? You mean that famous board game where the pro players think 15 moves ahead? is that how this feels to you?
Do they look like pro players to you?
Not a bad analogy really!
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Old 08.12.2020, 18:02
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It's all political silly games. The Kantons like AG just stick it to the Bundesrat and let them deal with it. ZH and TG play the "we changed things" card, TG a little better.

The ZH cop-out with one week of home school is clearly thinking that keeping the kids out of circulation for 3 weeks might prevent the inevitable......

Friday will maybe see country-wide measures. It's a game of chess and we are the pawns.
Are the hospitals coping though? This is the main point isn't it? So long as the hospitals are coping then there shouldn't be any need for further measures.

Looking over the border into Germany, they've been in lockdown light (restaurants and bars closed) for a month now and it doesn't seem to have had any effect on the numbers.
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Re: Coronavirus

This loose, cantonal-driven approach is quickly becoming a clown show of ineptitude and takes zero learning from the clearly failed US model of every state doing what it wants.

Putting aside differences on what measures should or shouldn't be taken, how does it make any sense that the rules differ by canton? I live in SO and therefore within short distance of BS, BL and AG and now need to sort out what restrictions exist where and when.

Again, right or wrong, IMO it is far past time for a coordinated and consistent Federal response.
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Old 08.12.2020, 18:17
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Are the hospitals coping though? This is the main point isn't it? So long as the hospitals are coping then there shouldn't be any need for further measures.

Looking over the border into Germany, they've been in lockdown light (restaurants and bars closed) for a month now and it doesn't seem to have had any effect on the numbers.
Dusting off this link

https://icumonitoring.ch/
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Old 08.12.2020, 18:19
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I am appalled at the lack of stricter rules in Zurich. I really hoped they would come up with better measured than that.
Lets hope the Federal council bring in further measures at the end of the week.
My seventeen year old son had to get tested today because somebody he goes to college with tested positive last week.Both myself and my husband are in a risk category, So although my son has no symptoms,we maybe not so fortunate to get off so lightly.
He has been told by the Canton of Zurich that the contact
Tracing is no longer able to keep up with the amount of people testing positive. That's how out of control it is.
It's about time people started taking this situation seriously!!
i haven't been to zurich for a long time but here in bern most people seem to be taking it seriously.
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Old 08.12.2020, 18:25
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The Innerschwyz is taking it seriously too.
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Old 08.12.2020, 18:38
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The Innerschwyz is taking it seriously too.
I wouldn't say that's the case in Basel. I mentioned before that I was at the Münszerplatz and by the Rhine in Kleinbasel the weekend before last and everywhere was heaving, including a pretty large anti-Nazi demonstration. No social distancing whatsover. I would only expect it all to get worse as Christmas draws nearer.
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Old 08.12.2020, 18:46
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i haven't been to zurich for a long time but here in bern most people seem to be taking it seriously.
Are you in the city? I popped into a bakery this AM for some bread and it was full of older people crowded together without a care in the world. All bars and restaurants are pretty full too, plus we have the Christmas markets / food & beverage stands. The city is full of shoppers and daytrippers. I don't think they are taking it seriously at all... I was in Zurich last weekend and it seemed pretty much the same.
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Re: Coronavirus

Switzerland is not a country, it is a confederation of independent republics. The Cantons are responsible for health matters with the federal government only taking an advisory role. That’s the way it is.

What the Federal Government did in the Spring was not ‘legal’. Ordering country-wide rules is not their responsibility. But they got away with it, in the sense that no Canton objected. But there were a lot of unhappy people in the Cantonal Governments and they have made their feelings known.

While it is obvious to just about everyone that the Federal Government should again be taking a lead, this just isn’t going to happen. That is unless the Cantons, collectively agree to delegate their responsibilities to Berne. All 26 of them.
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Old 08.12.2020, 19:24
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What the Federal Government did in the Spring was not ‘legal’. Ordering country-wide rules is not their responsibility. But they got away with it, in the sense that no Canton objected. But there were a lot of unhappy people in the Cantonal Governments and they have made their feelings known.
That is not correct, see Art 185 of the Constitution. These extraordinary powers have to be time-limited (they were) though and appropriate (no canton asked the court in Lausanne to rule on this).


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While it is obvious to just about everyone that the Federal Government should again be taking a lead, this just isn’t going to happen. That is unless the Cantons, collectively agree to delegate their responsibilities to Berne. All 26 of them.
They will never do this actively. Hence this ridiculous game now.
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