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You obviously have not explored your gym fully
There are scientific studies which show that walking/jogging in nature (parks, forest, etc.) is very good for mental health.
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Old 10.12.2020, 13:18
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Re: Coronavirus

Those wishing for more stringent measures should maybe have a look at Germany, they've been in a state of increased lockdown restrictions for a month now and it appears to have had no effect on the number of daily new cases. The type of restrictions Switzerland are looking at would not go beyond those implemented in Germany at present.

What's odd is that the likes of Italy, France and the UK have managed to reduce numbers, perhaps Germany now suffering the consequences for having dealt so "well" with the pandemic back in the Spring?

https://apnews.com/article/pandemics...71f031765a635d
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Old 10.12.2020, 13:27
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There are scientific studies which show that walking/jogging in nature (parks, forest, etc.) is very good for mental health.
Of course. I am a runner too I just meant you can do lot of cardio stuff in gym too. Like group fitness classes, I do Bodycombat for cardio so that I am moving in multiple planes. I am recovering from a running injury as running is a very one plane exercise.

I spend most of my free time in woods and mountains with my Goats.
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Old 10.12.2020, 13:28
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Those wishing for more stringent measures should maybe have a look at Germany, they've been in a state of increased lockdown restrictions for a month now and it appears to have had no effect on the number of daily new cases. The type of restrictions Switzerland are looking at would not go beyond those implemented in Germany at present.

What's odd is that the likes of Italy, France and the UK have managed to reduce numbers, perhaps Germany now suffering the consequences for having dealt so "well" with the pandemic back in the Spring?

https://apnews.com/article/pandemics...71f031765a635d
Yes, we discussed this before. This may have coincided with your period of absence.

I am not "wishing" for more stringent measures, but I find it a nonsensical to say stricter measures might come by Dec 18 without defining the criteria and also with no time for things to improve as all indicators are at least 5-7 days behind. But also this we discussed, and the current discussions in parliament are showing the problem with decision making. More stringent measures by FC might actually also mean that they call "extraordinary" again. SG effectively suggested this yesterday as they were frustrated with FC.
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Old 10.12.2020, 14:22
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Re: Coronavirus

Daily deaths in the US now over 3,000 so higher than in the first wave, the seven-day average is also higher than in the peak of the first wave, daily new cases are several times higher.

Meanwhile, some idiots still claiming it is all a hoax and demonstrating against masks.
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Old 10.12.2020, 14:26
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Daily deaths in the US now over 3,000 so higher than in the first wave, the seven-day average is also higher than in the peak of the first wave, daily new cases are several times higher.

Meanwhile, some idiots still claiming it is all a hoax and demonstrating against masks.
And yet, let's not over-stress the masks. In BS/BL I haven't seen people without a mask in public transport, closed areas, shops and offices for months and yet, cases are increasing. Don't get me wrong, I've said it before, masks are a must as even if they are 1% effective, it's better than 0%. But somehow masks vs. non-mask has turned into the most divisive debate here, while in the end they don't seem to matter that much.
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Have you tried HIIT yoga?
Yes, strenuous Jivamukti & practiced HIIT hot yoga for years back in the States. I became an almost exclusive gym bunny in the past half decade and need to get back into the yoga zone ... not easy to jump right back in practicing solo. Will give it a go - thanks for the reminder.

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Could be, but for me doing cardio in a closed space is strange, I'd rather be outside.
I love my outdoor cardio including track running, jogging and biking - but sadly had to stop regularly since November because my asthma is worsened by cold air.
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Re: Coronavirus

Any news when Switzerland will approve the vaccine ? or will we have to endure a nuclear winter of more
lockdowns, restrictions, quarantines and non-essential shop closures ?

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Any news when Switzerland will approve the vaccine ? or will we have to endure a nuclear winter of more
lockdowns, restrictions, quarantines and non-essential shop closures ?
Estimate is January for at-risk persons - fully rolled out by Spring.
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Old 10.12.2020, 16:34
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In the meantime- this is going to affect many people


https://www.theguardian.com/politics...e_iOSApp_Other


British holidaymakers will be barred from the European Union from 1 January under current Covid-19 safety restrictions, with the EU commission indicating there will be no exemption for the UK.
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meaning it’s a political decision, not one strictly based on science.
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Old 10.12.2020, 16:40
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meaning it’s a political decision, not one strictly based on science.
Which Covid has been ever since March btw...
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Old 10.12.2020, 16:48
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Which Covid has been ever since March btw...
But isn't this rather about the UK wanting a divorce and simply a consequence of a wider inability/unwillingness to come to terms?
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Old 10.12.2020, 16:48
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And yet, let's not over-stress the masks. In BS/BL I haven't seen people without a mask in public transport, closed areas, shops and offices for months and yet, cases are increasing. Don't get me wrong, I've said it before, masks are a must as even if they are 1% effective, it's better than 0%. But somehow masks vs. non-mask has turned into the most divisive debate here, while in the end they don't seem to matter that much.
But we do not know how many cases there would be if masks were not worn, your conclusion has a very weak foundation.
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Old 10.12.2020, 16:51
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In the meantime- this is going to affect many people

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...e_iOSApp_Other

British holidaymakers will be barred from the European Union from 1 January under current Covid-19 safety restrictions, with the EU commission indicating there will be no exemption for the UK.
I guess the ban is reciprocal, thus reasonable to assume EU holidaymakers will be barred from the UK from 01.01.2020 under current covid19 safety restrictions.
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Old 10.12.2020, 16:54
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But isn't this rather about the UK wanting a divorce and simply a consequence of a wider inability/unwillingness to come to terms?
I thought I was replying to the post about approval/availability of vaccines in Switzerland and I see now that it was a post about the EU Council

The UK ability/inability to travel for holidays doesn't bother me the least, if anything, the less obnoxious and drunk young Brits, the better for my holidays


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But we do not know how many cases there would be if masks were not worn, your conclusion has a very weak foundation.
Which part of "masks are a must" did you not understand so I can clarify?
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I guess the ban is reciprocal, thus reasonable to assume EU holidaymakers will be barred from the UK from 01.01.2020 under current covid19 safety restrictions.
Oh what a shame, there goes my winter holiday in Birmingham
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Intensive care units in the Stockholm region reached 99 percent capacity this week for the first time during the ongoing coronavirus pandemic, according to Sweden’s public broadcaster.
Are lockdowns coming?

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The Swedish government indicated this week that it will seek approval from the country’s parliament to close malls and gyms in an effort to slow the spread of the virus.
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Daily deaths in the US now over 3,000 so higher than in the first wave, the seven-day average is also higher than in the peak of the first wave, daily new cases are several times higher.

Meanwhile, some idiots still claiming it is all a hoax and demonstrating against masks.
Just in case anyone is still labouring under false pretences:

coronavirus-deadliest-days.png

... and this is already out of date. The #3 spot, 9/11, has fallen to COVID-19.
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Just in case anyone is still labouring under false pretences:

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... and this is already out of date. The #3 spot, 9/11, has fallen to COVID-19.
Where are V__ and Tony to tell us how all of these stats are meaningless and COVID is nothing worth worrying about?
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Just in case anyone is still labouring under false pretences:

Attachment 140891

... and this is already out of date. The #3 spot, 9/11, has fallen to COVID-19.
Life-years lost (on a daily basis) would be waaaaay behind 9/11. Not only because most 9/11 direct victims were of working age, but because the dust killed a large number of people in the forthcoming years.

9/11 on a daily basis this isn't.
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