Would still make sure you have a rebookable/refundable ticket. I think there could still be quarantine requirements at that point...

Luckily my boss is now understanding of my situation despite himself and others regularly going in...I am more thinking of the many out there who are pressured to go in by less than understanding bosses.

Studies have shown that the home and office are where the virus spreads the most...but instead, we close restaurants that were already under strict measures to begin with to avoid contagion. We should have closed schools and mandated home office instead, a long time ago...very disappointed. Families will now crowd together at the ski lifts and in hotels now...SMH

Try working in a small flat with a 1 year old.

My alternative is a office that resembles the Marie Celeste. Perhaps the way to go is to specify a maximum number of people per sq m.

Being able to work properly is more important than someone having their schnitzel and chips.

Nope, I am in total agreement with you on this, it’s nonsensical and won’t make much difference at all.

Having read it all more closely it seems that cantons in a favourable situation can decide to keep restaurants and sport facilities open as long as the continue to fulfil the criteria outlined last week.

Luckily I can WFH.

You are not looking hard enough or live in a nice area I have seen at least 4-6 people without nose covered on every public transport trip that I have taken for the last few months.

Just now I came home on a super packed bus and 5 people had their nose completely exposed. Lady half a meter away from me blowing her nose when she clearly was suffering from cold/flu or worse!

Many of the workers at Aldi/Lidl checkout have mask under their nose! I won't go into details of all the confrontations I have had with mask dodgers as they could easily identify me I gave up, not worth the stress!


I have zero faith in humans! The best thing that could happen is if some aliens descent and just wipe us all out

The only lockdowns that work are ones where people are virtually welded into their homes. Everything else has an immaterial effect on Covid outcomes. Seems to me there are only two options, putting people under house arrest until the vulnerable are vaccinated, or just accepting that we are in the midst of a pandemic and we have to carry on with life until the vulnerable are vaccinated.

No walks in the forest, no afternoon drives with the roof down like this afternoon, no bike riding? I thought keeping the distance was enough.

What is the reduction level that you will consider to be more than "immaterial"? It's a genuine question.

I can just picture Tony Clifton as the modern day equivalent of the ARP Warden, Hodges from Dad's Army
going round shouting 'put that facemask on' and 'keep that OAP indoors'

"The canton of Vaud uses its right of exemption and remains open."

https://www.tdg.ch/les-restaurants-r...r-199423024014

https://www.20min.ch/fr/story/le-can...s-245965880765

I can see what you mean but its a bit hyperbolic. Closing pubs and restaurants makes some difference on its own - and I think it also signals to people that the situation is bad. Hopefully enough to reduce R to below 1 given its only around 1.1 now.

But yes - lockdown doesn't make as much difference as people think. It did in the first wave because people were scared and didn't do anything. Now the effect is diminished as most people realise their personal risk is very low.

There's plenty of people who will risk spreading the virus unless they are welded in. In the ground floor flat in the building opposite occupied by 2 twenty-something lads, they are constantly having friends round for beers and fifa.

Vaud is the new Aargau.

Neuchâtel is doing the same, at least until the 24th and will discuss with the other cantons whether to continue from the 25th until January 4th after which the criteria becomes a bit more strict.

We’re at 46% occupancy in ICU here at the moment so we’re doing ok.

Merry Christmas....

Zug, Zürich and Schwyz all closing their ski resorts. Expect Glarus and SG to follow. Will be interesting to see what Graubünden do now - according to the BR conditions they should close but I suspect might not...

That's not the right question for me to answer. I'm of the opinion that we're in a pandemic and have to accept that fact and get carry on with life as much as we can. Someone posted a link to a BBC article on Switzerland earlier, and there was a quote in there that struck me where a Swiss doctor said, "we have forgotten how to die".

This is my opinion and the complete opposite to many who believe a single coronavirus death is one too many. I think your question is more relevant to these types of people, whereby whatever lockdown measures are introduced it will still be insufficient to satisfy them.

We know now that there is no correlation between severity of lockdown measures and the eventual death rate, so the question has to be asked, what's the point?

Reading the VD announcement it seems like posturing .. Just because they can ..

We'll stay open against the federal rules but we'll review it again 2 days after the federal rules come into effect.. And we'll do another report one day before the rules come into effect. And then we'll think about the ski areas.

Maybe it's just the wording but seems daft..

https://www.vd.ch/fileadmin/user_upl...1218-COVID.pdf

VD has been such a disaster that they deserve their 2 days in the sun lol. Doubtless they'll reclaim their capital status by the end of Jan

Seems that a lot of the cruelty that was said about Boris has been spared for Macron - who (although he seems to wear a mask) doesn't seem to have taken social distancing very seriously at all.

He's slim, and unlike his wife (67), quite young (42). So I'm sure he will be fine.