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Has anyone gone to the grocery store with the new regulations?

My local Coop is on the front page of 20min with people lined up outside this AM. Is it less crowded inside because of these new regulations? Otherwise I'm really upset with BAG for making this ridiculous decision.

Not really looking forwards to going tomorrow to get my Xmas period food shopping done with this facing me. Hoping if I show up at opening time, it won't be so bad.

Thanks!
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Old 22.12.2020, 10:44
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Has anyone gone to the grocery store with the new regulations?

My local Coop is on the front page of 20min with people lined up outside this AM. Is it less crowded inside because of these new regulations? Otherwise I'm really upset with BAG for making this ridiculous decision.

Not really looking forwards to going tomorrow to get my Xmas period food shopping done with this facing me. Hoping if I show up at opening time, it won't be so bad.

Thanks!
If you are frightened to go out, why not order online. I was getting COOP deliveries 8 years ago in ZH.
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Old 22.12.2020, 10:50
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If you are frightened to go out, why not order online. I was getting COOP deliveries 8 years ago in ZH.
I tried - do you have any idea what the wait period is now for online orders? I have been ordering online for some time now, but it isn't possible lately.
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Old 22.12.2020, 11:02
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In the BBC this morning is SPECULATION that the new varient is better at infecting Children. That has the potential to change the school situation.
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Old 22.12.2020, 11:05
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If you are frightened to go out, why not order online. I was getting COOP deliveries 8 years ago in ZH.
Are you no longer frightened to go out..

The trains are empty again, guys. CFF added carriages, finally! I think infecting family members over the holidays is less likely, awesome! Before Dec 18 we were sitting on eachothers laps, almost. Shortening trains in Nov and Dec made no sense.
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Old 22.12.2020, 11:10
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In the BBC this morning is SPECULATION that the new varient is better at infecting Children. That has the potential to change the school situation.
There is a new publication by Public Health England which came out yesterday. Higher transmission seems confirmed, but as far as I can see there is no data on age groups. Also nothing on severity.

"A novel variant has been identified which has spread rapidly within the UK. We have assessed this variant as having substantially increased transmissibility with high confidence. Further studies are underway to characterise the variant and updates will be provided."

" This analysis shows an increase of Rt of 0.52 [95%CI: 0.39-0.70] when we use a fixed effect model for each area. We also fitted a similar model but with a random effect model on the area, giving an estimated additive effect of 0.60 [95%CI:0.48 - 0.73]. Similar estimates of 0.56 [95%CrI:0.37-0.75] were obtained using a Bayesian regression model accounting for errors in VUI frequencies and Rt estimates. As an example, under the fixed effect model, an area with an Rt of 0.8 without the new variant would have an Rt of 1.32 [95%CI:1.19-1.50] if only the VOC was present."


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Old 22.12.2020, 11:15
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Re: Coronavirus

Due to measures taken by the French government to temporarily close its border with the UK, shipments between the UK/Ireland and continental Europe will be delayed. As a result of the border closure, UPS has taken the decision to temporarily suspend Transborder Standard shipments in both directions between the UK/Ireland and continental Europe.
Express shipments are not yet impacted by the suspension, yet delays may occur due to increased volume
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There is a new publication by Public Health England which came out yesterday. Higher transmission seems confirmed, but as far as I can see there is no data on age groups. Also nothing on severity.

"A novel variant has been identified which has spread rapidly within the UK. We have assessed this variant as having substantially increased transmissibility with high confidence. Further studies are underway to characterise the variant and updates will be provided."

" This analysis shows an increase of Rt of 0.52 [95%CI: 0.39-0.70] when we use a fixed effect model for each area. We also fitted a similar model but with a random effect model on the area, giving an estimated additive effect of 0.60 [95%CI:0.48 - 0.73]. Similar estimates of 0.56 [95%CrI:0.37-0.75] were obtained using a Bayesian regression model accounting for errors in VUI frequencies and Rt estimates. As an example, under the fixed effect model, an area with an Rt of 0.8 without the new variant would have an Rt of 1.32 [95%CI:1.19-1.50] if only the VOC was present."


https://assets.publishing.service.go...H_NJL2_SH2.pdf
Media at home are saying that this new strain is way more infectious amongst the young ones.
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Due to measures taken by the French government to temporarily close its border with the UK, shipments between the UK/Ireland and continental Europe will be delayed. As a result of the border closure, UPS has taken the decision to temporarily suspend Transborder Standard shipments in both directions between the UK/Ireland and continental Europe.
Express shipments are not yet impacted by the suspension, yet delays may occur due to increased volume
Time to stock up on Worcestershire sauce - there was actually a severe shortage in the summer!
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Time to stock up on Worcestershire sauce - there was actually a severe shortage in the summer!
I was without Marmite since about June!
My local supplier finally got a delivery last week, albeit at 3x UK prices.
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Old 22.12.2020, 12:08
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Time to stock up on Worcestershire sauce - there was actually a severe shortage in the summer!
Nice to have, but I hardly ever use it. I do have a spare bottle in the cellar, I should check its use by date. If anyone gets really desperate let me know.
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Media at home are saying that this new strain is way more infectious amongst the young ones.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55406939
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Cantons Fribourg, Neuchâtel, Valais and Vaud to close restaurants from the evening of 26 December

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In the cantons of Fribourg, Vaud, Neuchâtel and Valais, public establishments (restaurants, bars) will be closed from the evening of Saturday, December 26th. In order to harmonize the cantonal provisions, their governments have decided not to make use of the derogation option still authorized by federal law for public establishments.

Consultation between the governments of the French-speaking cantons has continued over the past few days. Noting that the cantons of Bern, Jura and Geneva are already subject to the federal system, the governments of the cantons of Fribourg, Vaud, Neuchâtel and Valais have decided to renounce the use of the possibilities of derogation still allowed by federal law for catering establishments. This measure takes into account the evolution of the epidemic (in particular the stabilization of the number of cases at a high level or the recent mutation of the virus) and the fact that some cantons in Western Switzerland are unable to make use of the possibilities of derogation under federal law.

The governments of the French-speaking cantons will continue their exchanges over the next few weeks. They will also remain in close contact with the federal authorities and will provide a further update on the situation with a view to the start of the new school year at the beginning of January. As a reminder, the Federal Council is continuously monitoring the situation and has announced that it will carry out an interim assessment on 30 December, reserving the possibility of taking additional measures should the situation deteriorate further.
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Old 22.12.2020, 13:13
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Has anyone gone to the grocery store with the new regulations?

My local Coop is on the front page of 20min with people lined up outside this AM. Is it less crowded inside because of these new regulations? Otherwise I'm really upset with BAG for making this ridiculous decision.

Not really looking forwards to going tomorrow to get my Xmas period food shopping done with this facing me. Hoping if I show up at opening time, it won't be so bad.

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Opening time is the worst time. I live in front of a Migros and I see every morning from my window people waiting for for the opening at 8AM. The retired love to do their shopping at that time. If you go by lunch time it's less crowded. Another option are the supermarkets in places you only reach by car. I was in one of those Coop last Saturday and 1 before closing time it was empty.

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Old 22.12.2020, 13:50
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Our British neighbours here in Klosters, found a print out of their legal requirement to quarantine from midnight tonight on their front door 14 minutes after it was announced. They also received an email from the Tourist Office informing them of the new restrictions. They drove over and are packing up now and leaving tonight.

There's quite a bit of bad feeling here in Klosters from the locals to the Brits, who are quite obvious in their presence. We have changed our family language from English to Swiss German at the moment when we are not at home. My personal feeling is that they should never have been here. They took a selfish risk and it hasn't paid off. Not that much sympathy from me personally.
This sort of curtain twitching Covid policing is not a good look, especially as it is supposed to be the season of goodwill.
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Opening time is the worst time. I live in front of a Migros and I see every morning from my window people waiting for for the opening at 8AM. The retired love to do their shopping at that time. If you go by lunch time it's less crowded. Another option are the supermarkets in places you only reach by car. I was in one of those Coop last Saturday and 1 before closing time it was empty.
Thanks! OK ... will rethink my plan then. I don't have a car, otherwise I would most definitely do as you suggested.
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Our British neighbours here in Klosters, found a print out of their legal requirement to quarantine from midnight tonight on their front door 14 minutes after it was announced. They also received an email from the Tourist Office informing them of the new restrictions. They drove over and are packing up now and leaving tonight.

There's quite a bit of bad feeling here in Klosters from the locals to the Brits, who are quite obvious in their presence. We have changed our family language from English to Swiss German at the moment when we are not at home. My personal feeling is that they should never have been here. They took a selfish risk and it hasn't paid off. Not that much sympathy from me personally.
Not from me either. We have not seen our daughters and grandchildren since last February half-term. There was a small window in August when we could have gone, but because OH is particularly high risk, and so is one of our grandchildren- we all decided to wait for Christmas. So we will be on our own as current travelling was unwise, stupid and massively selfish, especially to go skiing FFS - and I am a very keen skier. We have no idea when we will see our grandchildren again- so people's skiing 'needs' are truly and massively irrelevant.
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Old 22.12.2020, 14:24
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https://www.vd.ch/toutes-les-actuali...-publics-1608/
In Neuchâtel they are still however making use of the derogation for shops, museums and libraries so there will be no restriction on shop opening hours for the time being.
This may change on January 4th as the R rate here is 0.92 currently and it needs to be below 0.9 after January 4th.
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Todays published numbers are 4275 out of 32 k tests

171 hospitalisations
129 death

https://www.covid19.admin.ch/fr/overview

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Todays published numbers are 4271 out of 41 k tests.

187 hospitalisations
103 death

https://www.covid19.admin.ch/fr/overview

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