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23.12.2020, 12:38
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A 90-year-old woman was the first person in Switzerland to be vaccinated against the coronavirus in Lucerne. https://www.20min.ch/story/die-erste...t-713887593331 | The following 4 users would like to thank Sigh for this useful post: | | 
23.12.2020, 12:46
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| | Re: Coronavirus | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | I only hope she was aware of the risk | The following 3 users would like to thank komsomolez for this useful post: | | 
23.12.2020, 13:03
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| | Re: Coronavirus | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | Well, it won't be tomorrow or next week but in some months a significant part of the population will be vaccinated. So, the days of measures against the transmission of the virus are counted | The following 2 users would like to thank Axa for this useful post: | | 
23.12.2020, 13:23
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| | Re: Coronavirus | Quote: | |  | | | I only hope she was aware of the risk  | | | | | I wonder if her default search engine has changed to Bing yet ... or does that happen after the booster shot?
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23.12.2020, 13:38
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Some additonal information in the announcement:
Canton Lucerne to use its exhibition centre (Messe Luzern) as vaccination centre.
Vaccination for general population probably in late Spring. https://newsletter.lu.ch/inxmail/htm...ynufGhxe9NQ%3D | The following 2 users would like to thank MajorGrubert for this useful post: | | 
23.12.2020, 13:58
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| | Re: Coronavirus | Quote: | |  | | | I wonder if her default search engine has changed to Bing yet ... or does that happen after the booster shot? | | | | | With that possibility, you'll risk putting everyone off!
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23.12.2020, 13:59
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| | Re: Coronavirus | Quote: | |  | | | I wonder if her default search engine has changed to Bing yet ... or does that happen after the booster shot? | | | | | But does she get free 5G? | This user would like to thank MajorGrubert for this useful post: | | 
23.12.2020, 14:42
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Todays published numbers are 5033 out of 45 k tests
292 hospitalisations
98 death https://www.covid19.admin.ch/en/overview
Compared to last wednesday | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | |
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23.12.2020, 14:51
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It looks like the canton of Aargau has gone into "only-essential shops mode" (?). My husband is there visiting his elderly mother and went to the Migros in Brugg yesterday to do her shopping for her. He said that all the non-essential stuff was closed off in Migros so that people are unable to buy it, like what they were doing last Spring (he was wanting to buy a new mouse for his laptop but wasn't able to because the electronics section was closed).
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23.12.2020, 14:58
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| | Re: Coronavirus | Quote: | |  | | | It looks like the canton of Aargau has gone into "only-essential shops mode" (?). My husband is there visiting his elderly mother and went to the Migros in Brugg yesterday to do her shopping for her. He said that all the non-essential stuff was closed off in Migros so that people are unable to buy it, like what they were doing last Spring (he was wanting to buy a new mouse for his laptop but wasn't able to because the electronics section was closed). | | | | | That's a pity really. I don't understand the need to close non-essential shops, especially during this lonely time when those shops can provide a welcome activity.
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23.12.2020, 15:01
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| | Re: Coronavirus | Quote: | |  | | | That's a pity really. I don't understand the need to close non-essential shops, especially during this lonely time when those shops can provide a welcome activity. | | | | | The point is to avoid "welcome activity".
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23.12.2020, 15:03
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| | Re: Coronavirus | Quote: | |  | | | The point is to avoid "welcome activity". | | | | | If you're wearing a mask and have sanitized your hands, I don't see how the virus can be spread in those shops.
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23.12.2020, 15:05
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I think they're just trying to discourage people from crowding the shops there and from going out just to do "leisurely shopping." The situation in Aargau is really bad right now. The last I saw, there were only two ICU beds available in that canton (that was a few days ago).
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23.12.2020, 15:08
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| | Re: Coronavirus | Quote: | |  | | | If you're wearing a mask and have sanitized your hands, I don't see how the virus can be spread in those shops. | | | | | Droplets can still spread if people are wearing masks, it's just that they don't spread as easily as having no mask at all. I read an article just this morning in the "Physics of Fluids" journal that found that only N95 masks really fully contain most droplets, and most of us aren't wearing those (so of course, regular medical masks, etc. are still helpful, but certainly aren't 100% effective).
Edit: I was able to find that article again, so I'll include a link here: https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/5.0035072
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23.12.2020, 15:29
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| | Re: Coronavirus | Quote: | |  | | | Droplets can still spread if people are wearing masks, it's just that they don't spread as easily as having no mask at all. I read an article just this morning in the "Physics of Fluids" journal that found that only N95 masks really fully contain most droplets, and most of us aren't wearing those (so of course, regular medical masks, etc. are still helpful, but certainly aren't 100% effective).
Edit: I was able to find that article again, so I'll include a link here: https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/5.0035072 | | | | | I understand and thank you for linking the article. I think we're all suffering from Covid weariness and I wish all these safety measures would help but I suspect there are many out there who are disregarding the rules and still going on holiday, still meeting up in groups and still dismissing regulations as something for others to follow.
I've become quite pessimistic on seeing numbers actually go down until widespread vaccination has reached 60%+. We need to get the elderly and those at risk vaccinated ASAP.
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23.12.2020, 15:35
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| | Re: Coronavirus | Quote: | |  | | | I understand and thank you for linking the article. I think we're all suffering from Covid weariness and I wish all these safety measures would help but I suspect there are many out there who are disregarding the rules and still going on holiday, still meeting up in groups and still dismissing regulations as something for others to follow.
I've become quite pessimistic on seeing numbers actually go down until widespread vaccination has reached 60%+. We need to get the elderly and those at risk vaccinated ASAP. | | | | | Yeah, I know what you mean... I definitely feel like I'm suffering from "COVID weariness," too. And it really sucks because here we were finally beginning to see a "light at the end of the tunnel" with the vaccines finally starting, and now all this craziness with this new mutation emerges. | This user would like to thank Pancakes for this useful post: | | 
23.12.2020, 15:37
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I still cant believe how grown up people can believe , wearing a cloth on the mouth can stop spreading a respiratory virus ??
I can understand how people are under some psychosis and pressure so they cant reason with logic but still.. it's been months now
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23.12.2020, 15:40
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I don't think that we could expect people to become more cautious as the time goes. Realistically, the opposite. I can say that I am used to the safe routine and being exposed a lot, we cannot slip and reverse back to the old normal. Most people I know who have to, like me, work every work day, take packed public transport multiple times of the day and in a couple of cities the same day, do keep up the same safe routines since the last spring and don't nag about it much nor cannot cave in to anxiety or panic. It's the resilience that daily drill in high exposure causes. But the young ones and older ones cannot hold up the emergency behavior for too long. It fatigues.
The vax may change it for the people at risk but I think it will take a while. I'd say a year. In the meantime, it's good to focus on the other positive stuff - holidays, healthy life style changes, improvement within what's possible to improve...etc.
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23.12.2020, 15:42
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| | Re: Coronavirus | Quote: | |  | | | I wonder if her default search engine has changed to Bing yet ... or does that happen after the booster shot? | | | | | I think I'd take slow asphyxiation over Bing thanks!
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23.12.2020, 15:44
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| | Re: Coronavirus | Quote: | |  | | | I still cant believe how grown up people can believe , wearing a cloth on the mouth can stop spreading a respiratory virus ??
I can understand how people are under some psychosis and pressure so they cant reason with logic but still.. it's been months now
wearing mask in no way can "stop" the virus  | | | | | Most of those catching the virus were in situations where they weren't wearing a mask.
Edit: And no, I don't have any evidence accept for hearing stories in my own circle of friends and aquaintances.
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