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31.12.2020, 17:21
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| | Re: Coronavirus | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | I've taken it for quite a few years (3mg before bedtime), not because of sleep problems, but for the reasons stated in those papers and because it improves vividness and recall of dreams. It has a strange (non-linear) dose/response curve with many people and you sometimes have to experiment a bit to get the right dose (anything from 0.3mg to 10mg).
For the 'immune buffering' (vitamin D has a similar effect), I can't really comment on how effective it is except to say that I haven't had the 'flu for 20 years (when I started seriously supplementing with vitamin D and other stuff) and very rarely even get colds (and never heavy ones).
It's definitely in my 'top 10' supplements...
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31.12.2020, 17:30
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Todays numbers 4391 out of 30 k tests
166 hospitalisations
77 death https://www.covid19.admin.ch/en/overview | The following 2 users would like to thank Sigh for this useful post: | | 
31.12.2020, 17:37
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| | Re: Coronavirus | Quote: | |  | | | 85% is not easy- really. But Lindt 70% with a touch of salt, wow.
Talklater- reading around Coro + Vit D deficiency- it seems that skin rashes can also be a sign of not sufficient Vit D- so worth looking into. | | | | | Yea, chocolate percentage is a fine balance. I think a bit of sugar is needed to bring out the taste, but sugar is certainly the number one thing to avoid in the diet. At least chocolate is easy to calculate - what isn't cocoa solids is going to pretty much all sugar.
My current favourite from Coop is the 76% Madagascar with coffee chips in it. https://www.coop.ch/en/food/sweets-s...ntext=category | 
31.12.2020, 17:44
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I saw in my news feed a bit ago that there is now a COVID-19 Vaccination Centre set up in Zurich. They're allowing people to register online for an appointment to get the vaccine, but it's currently only for those over the age of 75 or who are considered high-risk. It looks their appt slots are all booked up right now, but I'll put a link to the page here anyways, as well as a screen shot from that link... https://coronazentrum.uzh.ch/en/contact/
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Reason: changed the age from 65 to 75 ;)
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31.12.2020, 17:49
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| | Re: Coronavirus | Quote: | |  | | | I saw in my news feed a bit ago that there is now a COVID-19 Vaccination Centre set up in Zurich. They're allowing people to register online for an appointment to get the vaccine, but it's currently only for those over the age of 65 or who are considered high-risk. It looks their appt slots are all booked up right now, but I'll put a link to the page here anyways, as well as a screen shot from that link... https://coronazentrum.uzh.ch/en/contact/ Attachment 140993 | | | | | Isn’t it for over 75 rather than over 65 at the moment?
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31.12.2020, 17:53
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| | Re: Coronavirus | Quote: | |  | | | Isn’t it for over 75 rather than over 65 at the moment? | | | | | Yes. 75, afaik.
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31.12.2020, 17:56
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| | Re: Coronavirus | Quote: | |  | | | Isn’t it for over 75 rather than over 65 at the moment? | | | | | Oops. You're right. Thank you for that. I'll edit my post now.
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31.12.2020, 18:57
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| | Re: Coronavirus | Quote: | |  | | | Oops. You're right. Thank you for that. I'll edit my post now. | | | | | I keep checking for 65......
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31.12.2020, 19:14
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This one was booked out in one hour, I've posted the news before... Hopefully availability will improve as Moderna gets approved first week of January.
P.S. With this new British ultra-covid I have an impression that we are racing against the time now.
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31.12.2020, 19:29
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| | Re: Coronavirus | Quote: | |  | | | Yes. 75, afaik. | | | | | 85 in Ticino!
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31.12.2020, 20:03
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31.12.2020, 20:06
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Judging by the amount of teens and young adults buying beer and wine in the Coop earlier, I'd say there'll be a fair amount of partying still taking place tonight.
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31.12.2020, 20:07
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My neighbour is late 60s- and just come to bring us some goodies for tonight as she knows we are in quarantine. Told me she went to her GP the other day, and because she has severe health problems and seriously at risk- GP asked to vaccinate here there and then. She refused. What can you say.
In the UK, instead of giving the second dose to the 400.000 being vaccinated now- they have decided to give one does to 800000 instead.
Does anyone know the answer to this- can the second dose be from a different vaccine. So Pfizer for the first, and Oxford for the second???
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31.12.2020, 20:25
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| | Re: Coronavirus | Quote: | |  | | | My neighbour is late 60s- and just come to bring us some goodies for tonight as she knows we are in quarantine. Told me she went to her GP the other day, and because she has severe health problems and seriously at risk- GP asked to vaccinate here there and then. She refused. What can you say.
In the UK, instead of giving the second dose to the 400.000 being vaccinated now- they have decided to give one does to 800000 instead.
Does anyone know the answer to this- can the second dose be from a different vaccine. So Pfizer for the first, and Oxford for the second??? | | | | | No, they are different formulation, different doses and different working mechanism.
Since the first shot already gives some protection, they decided to vaccinate as many people as possible, to reduce the spread of their ultra-covid. Perhaps makes sense, time will show. I honestly think it will only increase confusion and errors. Best is to protect the most vulnerable as well as possible, so that they don't overcrowd the hospitals which is the ultimate reason for all those lockdowns etc.
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31.12.2020, 20:27
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| | Re: Coronavirus | Quote: | |  | | | No, they are different formulation, different doses and different working mechanism.
Since the first shot already gives some protection, they decided to vaccinate as many people as possible, to reduce the spread of their ultra-covid. Perhaps makes sense, time will show. I honestly think it will only increase confusion and errors. | | | | | They are getting 2 doses, but up to 12 weeks apart, rather than 3 weeks.
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I think it is an issue with trust. You tell people the vaccine is only effective if you have 2 doses, second one later. Then say, ah well no, never mind- not important- we will do it 12 weeks later.
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31.12.2020, 21:19
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| | Re: Coronavirus | Quote: | |  | | | I think it is an issue with trust. You tell people the vaccine is only effective if you have 2 doses, second one later. Then say, ah well no, never mind- not important- we will do it 12 weeks later. | | | | | But that’s not true, is it? It’s not AS effective with just one dose, but it is certainly more effective than nothing at all.
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31.12.2020, 21:38
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| | Re: Coronavirus | Quote: | |  | | | My neighbour is late 60s- and just come to bring us some goodies for tonight as she knows we are in quarantine. Told me she went to her GP the other day, and because she has severe health problems and seriously at risk- GP asked to vaccinate here there and then. She refused. What can you say.
In the UK, instead of giving the second dose to the 400.000 being vaccinated now- they have decided to give one does to 800000 instead.
Does anyone know the answer to this- can the second dose be from a different vaccine. So Pfizer for the first, and Oxford for the second??? | | | | | Mixing doses of different vaccines do not work and can be dangerous.
Looks like they are panicking and making decisions not based on solid scientific evidence.
There is an argument that it is an option to give just one dose because you then protect twice as many people as with two doses per person. But there was no proper testing of a one-dose approach and how effective that would be in terms of % protection and long term immunity.
So far as I know there was no testing of the effectiveness of a second dose after such a long time period.
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31.12.2020, 22:10
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| | Re: Coronavirus | Quote: | |  | | | But that’s not true, is it? It’s not AS effective with just one dose, but it is certainly more effective than nothing at all. | | | | | True but it would be nice to know exactly how much more effective than nothing at all.
So far, social distancing and appropriate mask-wearing work for me. Difficult to make a decision about getting vaccinated when the goalposts keep moving.
If I had taken one dose of a two-dose vaccine with the expectation of the second dose in three weeks and that has now turned into twelve weeks or, even worse, sometime never, then I would be really unhappy.
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31.12.2020, 22:24
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As I suspected | Quote: |  | | | Pfizer has criticised the UK’s determination to elongate the hole between doses of its Covid-19 vaccine, saying the “security and efficacy” of the brand new schedule had not been evaluated, as infections and hospitalisations continued to soar throughout the UK.
The uncommon intervention by the US pharma firm got here amid rising controversy over the transfer, with GPs complaining that they have been having to cancel appointments and reassure anxious sufferers who had beforehand been advised they wanted the second dose to maintain them protected. | | | | | Seems the clowns have taken over the circus | The following 3 users would like to thank marton for this useful post: | |
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