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Old 05.01.2021, 09:48
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How can you say that when it hasn't been tested anywhere? As opposed to the alternative route taken by western governments that demonstrably hasn't worked, both in stopping the spread of the virus and in reducing deaths.

Whatever you do don't let facts and the truth get in the way of a good scare story!
Here is the breakdown of age groups in Swiss hospitals due to COVID-19.

Strangely the hospitalisation rate for ages 0-9 is higher than 10-19.
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Here is the breakdown of age groups in Swiss hospitals due to COVID-19.

Strangely the hospitalisation rate for ages 0-9 is higher than 10-19.
That's not strange at all. Very young children are usually more at risk than teenagers and young adults with respect to infectious diseases.

It's the typical asymmetrical U-shaped danger curve, albeit this disease is particularly brutal for older adults and not so bad for little kids.

For under 25s severity of Covid is lower than influenza. For over 35s the reverse, and increasingly so at higher ages.
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The Swiss response is no less chaotic than the UK's/anyone elses.

Swiss have non- essential shops open, whereas relatively easy to control/clean restaurants/cafes are closed.
Why is that? People wear masks while shopping, mostly don't talk or talk quietly, don't stay on the same place for long. The only risky place is the fitting room.
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Strangely the hospitalisation rate for ages 0-9 is higher than 10-19.
Babies up to 1 year have higher risk than older kids.
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Old 05.01.2021, 10:15
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Yet another press conference today at 14.00

Point de Presse heute 14.00 Uhr in Bern zum Stand der Dinge. Mit EKIF, VKS und BAG.


".... We need to monitor the situation ... " Probably..
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Old 05.01.2021, 10:18
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".... We need to monitor the situation ... " Probably..
Whoa, hold on there; let's not get ahead of ourselves with such drastic actions. Eigenverantwortung and all ...
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Old 05.01.2021, 10:21
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Yet another press conference today at 14.00

Point de Presse heute 14.00 Uhr in Bern zum Stand der Dinge. Mit EKIF, VKS und BAG.


".... We need to monitor the situation ... " Probably..
They might as well just say: "We're going to wait until the situation is much, much worse to do anything to try to keep it from becoming much, much worse."
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Old 05.01.2021, 10:24
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Yet another press conference today at 14.00

Point de Presse heute 14.00 Uhr in Bern zum Stand der Dinge. Mit EKIF, VKS und BAG.


".... We need to monitor the situation ... " Probably..
Isn’t this just the regular Tuesday press conference?

It’s the extraordinary ones that happen after the federal council discussions that are the interesting ones and they’ve usually on Wednesdays or Thursdays.

It says in our local paper today that closing primary schools in Switzerland will be considered as a last resort so I wouldn’t expect that to happen imminently. The same article discusses the suspected COVID death of a 9 year old in St Gallen.
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Old 05.01.2021, 10:34
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Yet another press conference today at 14.00

Point de Presse heute 14.00 Uhr in Bern zum Stand der Dinge. Mit EKIF, VKS und BAG.


".... We need to monitor the situation ... " Probably..
Another waste of time.
They should put us in lockdown now rather than the wait and see approach that they love so much. Lives are needlessly being lost while they drag their feet!
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Old 05.01.2021, 10:46
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It says in our local paper today that closing primary schools in Switzerland will be considered as a last resort so I wouldn’t expect that to happen imminently. The same article discusses the suspected COVID death of a 9 year old in St Gallen.
My colleagues with kids agreed that home office with kids at home is not productive at all. Never underestimate the childcare contribution of elementary education.
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My colleagues with kids agreed that home office with kids at home is not productive at all. Never underestimate the childcare contribution of elementary education.
I may be a right winger and an atheist - but god bless teachers.
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Old 05.01.2021, 10:57
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My colleagues with kids agreed that home office with kids at home is not productive at all. Never underestimate the childcare contribution of elementary education.
It’s not good for the parents nor for the kids but it may become necessary if things don’t improve drastically soon ( which isn’t looking very likely).
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Old 05.01.2021, 11:07
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My colleagues with kids agreed that home office with kids at home is not productive at all. Never underestimate the childcare contribution of elementary education.
As I saw on a facebook meme today ...

If we think this is bad..
In 20 years time the world will be run by people who were home-schooled..
By alcoholics..
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Old 05.01.2021, 11:13
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Isn’t this just the regular Tuesday press conference?

It’s the extraordinary ones that happen after the federal council discussions that are the interesting ones and they’ve usually on Wednesdays or Thursdays.

It says in our local paper today that closing primary schools in Switzerland will be considered as a last resort so I wouldn’t expect that to happen imminently. The same article discusses the suspected COVID death of a 9 year old in St Gallen.
Exactly, Bundesrat is meeting tomorrow. This will be the normal update like they have had it twice a week for a while now.

For tomorrow's Bundesrat, it is known what Berset is suggesting: Continue all as is, but without the "low R" exemptions.
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We have just lost a cousin in NJ and last night a nephew in Cape Town, age 50. This is getting quite scary.
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Old 05.01.2021, 11:31
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It's the typical asymmetrical U-shaped danger curve, albeit this disease is particularly brutal for older adults and not so bad for little kids.
More generally called hormesis, where a biological process follows a J curve. It's seen all over the place in health, e.g. small amounts of alcohol are better than either none or too much (I try to push this curve as far as possible...) or plant toxins (resveratrol, sulforaphane, etc) are beneficial in small amounts.
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We have just lost a cousin in NJ and last night a nephew in Cape Town, age 50. This is getting quite scary.
I'm so very sorry, Jackie.
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We have just lost a cousin in NJ and last night a nephew in Cape Town, age 50. This is getting quite scary.
Sorry for your loss Jackie.

50 is no age to go.
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More generally called hormesis, where a biological process follows a J curve. It's seen all over the place in health, e.g. small amounts of alcohol are better than either none or too much (I try to push this curve as far as possible...) or plant toxins (resveratrol, sulforaphane, etc) are beneficial in small amounts.
Im hoping our little one is past the point of significant danger. Although she's only just turned 1, she's managed to quintuple her body weight already.

2.9 kg to 14kg (99.5% percentile IIRC)!
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Yeah, don't waste your time with it. As expected, they have completely ignored all the evidence that lockdowns have had a significant impact on bringing the numbers down last Spring.
numbers was down in Sweden as well w/o any lockdowns
and, btw, death toll in Sweden now 3 times less then in CH. still w/o lockdowns, business closures, masks etc
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