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Old 05.01.2021, 20:36
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It must have been mentioned here before, but if not I watch this character’s YouTube channel each day. A retired UK GP and Phd who give a daily insight in a rather laboured but honest and authorities manner.

More accurate and up-to-date info than you will ever find on EF. Worth subscribing to...

That dude makes sense, as good a layman as you can get I guess. I still prefer expert podcasts.

The writing on the projector is hilarious and reminds me so much of my university times.
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Old 05.01.2021, 20:37
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How old are your medic parents Music? You should send them this meme.
Why would I? He said that we are awesome. Why wouldn't anyone like that?

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Old 05.01.2021, 20:55
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I guess one person's 'mildly concering' is another person's 'terrifying'.
This thread is peppered with people being groaned for stating facts, and others being thanked for projecting their somewhat highly strung emotions.
It would indeed be nice if there was a separate Coronavirus thread where people could express their concerns about a pandemic and have an intelligent conversation about it without having to deal with a few select people constantly trying to accuse them of being "hysterical" and projecting their "high strung emotions."
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Old 05.01.2021, 21:04
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And if we all would try not to take the bait all the time, this would be a much shorter thread.
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It would indeed be nice if there was a separate Coronavirus thread where people could express their concerns about a pandemic and have an intelligent conversation about it without having to deal with a few select people constantly trying to accuse them of being "hysterical" and projecting their "high strung emotions."

and even worse 'baited'
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So stop posting altogether then or stay off this thread.It will please alot of people.
Discussion as part as forum implies quite opposite opinions. You have to deal with this
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Old 05.01.2021, 22:40
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It would indeed be nice if there was a separate Coronavirus thread where people could express their concerns about a pandemic and have an intelligent conversation about it without having to deal with a few select people constantly trying to accuse them of being "hysterical" and projecting their "high strung emotions."
intelligent conversation about expressing concerns? what he point?
corona is concerning? indeed. you want to discuss level of concern? deep concern, more deep concern, deepest concern?
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Old 05.01.2021, 22:54
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intelligent conversation about expressing concerns? what he point?
corona is concerning? indeed. you want to discuss level of concern? deep concern, more deep concern, deepest concern?
It will quickly turn into "I'm more concerned than you", "your concern is just not underpinned enough, you peasant", "where is the proof for your concern, link please" and "the basis of your concern is simply not scientific enough" all the way to "stop posting your pathetic concerns, they don't match mine so shut up".

I covered it, so let's not (have an other thread on this).
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Old 05.01.2021, 22:58
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Below a study that German Covid popstar Drosten just referred to in his podcast. It seems to find that the South African variant is potentially resistant to anti-bodies.

Drosten speculates that this could be sign of "escape" amid a relatively immune population (areas of RSA close to herd immunity, >50% with antibodies). If I understood correctly, his point is that sooner or later the virus will adapt to a more immune population, just a matter of time. Likely to be imported from populations with already relatively high immunity without new strains being detected. The more important that wide parts of the population receive some form of immunity as soon as possble, and he seemed to support spreading time between vaccine shots. Clearly he argues that immunity is not black/white, but there are degrees.

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...12.31.425021v1
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best news for us tonight- OH's test has come back negative. He is very much more at risk than me, so will be vaccinated soon. Pheeew.
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best news for us tonight- OH's test has come back negative. He is very much more at risk than me, so will be vaccinated soon. Pheeew.
Thats great news!!!

How are you doing? Better I hope!
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Ah thank you- I am fine- just flat as a pancake and no energy at all- and patience running thin. But fine and so relieved not passed on to OH.
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best news for us tonight- OH's test has come back negative. He is very much more at risk than me, so will be vaccinated soon. Pheeew.
Great news! Stay safe and well!
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I can only think that their [Swiss Government] current thinking is purely based on finances and not people losing their lives?
Most probably. In fact, given the age of people who mostly die, this virus is a blessing for the economy in the long-term, so they take maximum advantage of it.

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Below a study that German Covid popstar Drosten just referred to in his podcast. It seems to find that the South African variant is potentially resistant to anti-bodies.
finally great news
I was afraid that after vaccination this madness will end, but no, show must go on
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Below a study that German Covid popstar Drosten just referred to in his podcast. It seems to find that the South African variant is potentially resistant to anti-bodies.

Drosten speculates that this could be sign of "escape" amid a relatively immune population (areas of RSA close to herd immunity, >50% with antibodies). If I understood correctly, his point is that sooner or later the virus will adapt to a more immune population, just a matter of time. Likely to be imported from populations with already relatively high immunity without new strains being detected. The more important that wide parts of the population receive some form of immunity as soon as possble, and he seemed to support spreading time between vaccine shots. Clearly he argues that immunity is not black/white, but there are degrees.

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...12.31.425021v1
This is not peer-reviewed. No matter how big the popstar is. I remember in Spring there were plenty of widely cited non-peer-reviewed publications by popstars saying that we are on the verge of herd immunity, where are they now?
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Old 06.01.2021, 01:08
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This is not peer-reviewed. No matter how big popstar is. I remember in Spring there were plenty of non-reiewed publications by popstars saying that we are on the verge of herd immunity, where are they now?
Take a deep breath. That's why I wrote "seems to find" and "speculates". Also this here is no argument for herd immunization by spread, but is to say that higher degree of immunization will naturally force the virus to adapt.
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Old 06.01.2021, 01:13
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finally great news
I was afraid that after vaccination this madness will end, but no, show must go on
It is quite likely this virus is going to be endemic, i.e. become something like influenza with a high degree of underlying partial immunity and ever evolving virus strains to which vaccines will have to be adopted. That's it, no need to exaggerate.
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It must have been mentioned here before, but if not I watch this character’s YouTube channel each day. A retired UK GP and Phd who give a daily insight in a rather laboured but honest and authorities manner.

More accurate and up-to-date info than you will ever find on EF. Worth subscribing to...

Just a detail: he was a qualified registered nurse and nursing instructor with a doctorate, but AFAIK he was not an actually BMA registered GP. (John Campbell, RN, BSc, MSc, PGC.Pharm, PhD).
That doesn't mean he's not more than qualified to do what he's doing on YT.

I've also been watching him since January '20. I also like the Medcram channel on YouTube. In fact both channels did a collaboration yesterday as follows: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LXZTU9UbSc
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