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If that rate is maintained then by summer the majority will be vaccinated and the outlook should be very different.
In the UK maybe. Not in other countries, Germany is much much slower:

https://www.omnicalculator.com/healt...ankungen-liste

Bei einer Impfrate von 669.998 pro Woche und einer Impf-Bereitschaft von 54%, können Sie erwarten, Ihre erste Impfdosis von 7.8.2021 bis 20.2.2022 zu erhalten.

Die zweite Impfdosis sollten Sie dann vom 28.8.2021 bis 13.3.2022 erhalten.

According to this my first vaccination date would be somewhen between 28.08 this year and 20.02 next year.......
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No no a traditional set up but it does appear to be efficient. It cannot be concluded that people were not closely monitored either.

I think fast and loose is inaccurate, personally. From what i understand of it, and from what family and friends tell me who have been vaccinated, it's working pretty well. I think you may just be determined to be annoyed by this way of doing things. Btw it is only one way - still done the more traditional walk in way too.
I only make observations. It doesn't affect me and I have no reason to be annoyed.

I mentioned exactly that it can't be concluded that people weren't closely monitored but it was very likely the case. When I posted this previously, Castro quoted from an article:

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The Hyde site is a drive-through model but chiefs are advising that, where possible, people who need the vaccine are not the ones driving.
It's these kinds of things that are concerning. Vehicles are controlled missiles. Potentially you have people driving them immediately after receiving an experimental vaccine.
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In the UK maybe. Not in other countries, Germany is much much slower:

https://www.omnicalculator.com/healt...ankungen-liste

Bei einer Impfrate von 669.998 pro Woche und einer Impf-Bereitschaft von 54%, können Sie erwarten, Ihre erste Impfdosis von 7.8.2021 bis 20.2.2022 zu erhalten.

Die zweite Impfdosis sollten Sie dann vom 28.8.2021 bis 13.3.2022 erhalten.

According to this my first vaccination date would be somewhen between 28.08 this year and 20.02 next year.......
That's quite a large estimated window. Perhaps the capacity will increase in the interim and the window might move forward.
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It's these kinds of things that are concerning. Vehicles are controlled missiles. Potentially you have people driving them immediately after receiving an experimental vaccine.
Indeed. But the same could be said for someone driving and having a sneezing /coughing fit or asthma attack. I sincerely doubt most of those so far using the drive through option were driving.

I'm all for it. The quicker we can get vaccinated the better.
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BAG said we will not be able to choose though.
I don't understand how they could not let me to. They must inform me which vaccine they are going to use for me and I always have right to refuse and go to another vaccination center. They want to make vaccination appealing to people, right? Not letting people know which vaccine is used will only decrease the trust in their vaccination campaign and the percentage of people wanting to be vaccinated. I don't even mention that some people are allergic to certain components of some vaccines, so not letting people know what vaccine they are going to use can be simply dangerous.
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in the brave new shiny world you will be probably limited in your rights w/o vaccination passport (out dog already have it and can travel freely )
I mostly stay at home anyway. It's unlikely that they limit my rights to go shopping in Migros, and even without it my family can survive ordering food online.
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Just finished watching the BBC News...

Perfect viewing for all those ´I want, I want I want´people who don't get it!!!
All the egoistic, stuck up nonbelivers who are just creating more problems for the rest of us. Carry on, don't use a mask, don't worry about distancing. Don't exist, it's all Holiwood init (?) Fluffing fools!!!

Please look back at the program! Maybe then you'll get it!

as usual (after my rant) stay healthy y'all

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Just finished watching the BBC News...

Perfect viewing for all those ´I want, I want I want´people who don't get it!!!
All the egoistic, stuck up nonbelivers who are just creating more problems for the rest of us. Carry on, don't use a mask, don't worry about distancing. Don't exist, it's all Holiwood init (?) Fluffing fools!!!

Please look back at the program! Maybe then you'll get it!

as usual (after my rant) stay healthy y'all

an' 'ave a Great evening y'all

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Could you please provide a link? It's hard to know what you're talking about without more context.
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Israeli data is indicating that the UK strategy of delaying the 2nd dose may well be mistaken.

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Israel’s coronavirus tsar has warned that a single dose of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine may be providing less protection than originally hoped, as the country reported a record 10,000 new Covid infections on Monday.

In remarks reported by Army Radio, Nachman Ash said a single dose appeared “less effective than we had thought”, and also lower than Pfizer had suggested.
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Can't seem to find link (?)

But for all those with a normal TV connection, just go into BBC 1, scrole back to the News at 7o-clock (six British time) just click on it. It's the first report on the main evening news.

Hope ya' find it, good luck

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Do you mean this? https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-us-canada-55720066
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UK seems to be up around 1.5M a week now. Deaths should be imminently plummeting.
Most of the deaths are lagging the infections by 2-4 weeks, they don't die instantly, you know. Plus 2 weeks is needed to reach that 95% antibody level. This brings us to the point that there will be at least a 1-2 month lag between most of 75+ taking the second shot and death rate plummeting.
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Has anyone used that PCR test from Roche/Viselio that can be done at home? They say it is accepted in several countries and is reliable.
No, but I went to their website and watched the video and looked at the data they want to collect.

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I haven't heard of it, but to me it sounds quite implausible that a self-administered PCR test can be accepted anywhere (it has to be carried by professionals by inserting a long flexible stub into your nose down your throat and is quite uncomfortable, done it three times here for travel).
If done properly I could see how it could be accurate, but then if you can do this less invasive technique at home, why on earth do they need to tickle your brain at the official sites?

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I also cannot see how this could work. What you need is generally not a test, but a certificate from a reputable lab.
I believe the lab they work with issues the certificate.

FYI the website asks for tons of personal information, including passport number and trip details if the test is for travel.

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I'm really starting to feel desperate about the vaccine ... do we have any outlook on when under 75's who are at risk might be vaccinated? I've signed us up here in Bern, but apparently even the over 75's in this canton aren't getting them unless they have a chronic disease...
Have you been assigned a group letter? I have friends in group E and group N. No dates for those yet.

Bern only started rolling out their vaccine program on the 11th of January so they're not very far along yet. So far they also haven't done a very good job of publicizing from what I've seen. I had to hunt for info myself and ask around.
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