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BAG publishes vaccination numbers for the first time

https://www.20min.ch/story/das-ist-d...z-136662375229
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Old 22.01.2021, 12:57
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BAG publishes vaccination numbers for the first time

https://www.20min.ch/story/das-ist-d...z-136662375229
Doses delivered by Pfizer/BioNTech & Moderna 459K / Doses applied 169K

What's going on here? Are these numbers about the first shot or also include the second one? As usual 20min provides ZERO context or metadata
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Old 22.01.2021, 13:02
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Doses delivered by Pfizer/BioNTech & Moderna 459K / Doses applied 169K

What's going on here? Are these numbers about the first shot or also include the second one? As usual 20min provides ZERO context or metadata
This time it might not be their fault

Looking at the BAG site its the only info published

https://www.bag.admin.ch/situation-schweiz#-749635158
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Old 22.01.2021, 13:14
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Terrible news for EF members: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tyne-55760281
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Old 22.01.2021, 13:16
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BAG publishes vaccination numbers for the first time

https://www.20min.ch/story/das-ist-d...z-136662375229
It’s not really very helpful to be honest.
It gives the total number of doses delivered to the cantons but doesn’t say when so gives a false picture of the the efficiency of the cantons.
Neuchâtel received a massive delivery of vaccines yesterday so it’s pretty obvious that they won’t have used many of them yet. They had used pretty much all the doses received prior to that.
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Old 22.01.2021, 13:21
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I assumed that doses delivered meant "delivered to the cantons to go and do their thing". The "bislang total verimpft" is clearly the number of people vaccinated but I think almost all of these would have received only one jab so far.

It's really not clear or particularly helpful. But it's interesting to compare the cantons. Go Basel-Stadt!
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Old 22.01.2021, 13:30
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This time it might not be their fault

Looking at the BAG site its the only info published

https://www.bag.admin.ch/situation-schweiz#-749635158
haha of course, a journalist would have called BAG to ask for a clarification and then communicate this info to readers.....but there are no journalists over there, better to be fast and win all the reader clicks
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Old 22.01.2021, 13:38
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I assumed that doses delivered meant "delivered to the cantons to go and do their thing". The "bislang total verimpft" is clearly the number of people vaccinated but I think almost all of these would have received only one jab so far.

It's really not clear or particularly helpful. But it's interesting to compare the cantons. Go Basel-Stadt!
The first people vaccinated should be receiving their second doses around now so there certainly won’t be many people who’ve had two so far.
We get ours on Tuesday having had the first shot on December 29th.

Without a timeline of delivery it’s not really helpful at all in my opinion other than to see the distribution of vaccines to the different cantons.
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Old 22.01.2021, 13:41
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Re: Coronavirus

Our GP is putting OH on list to be vaccinated on his 75th BD in a few weeks time.

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Old 22.01.2021, 13:54
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Emerging evidence suggests new coronavirus variant could be problematic for vaccines
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/21/h...nes/index.html
as I said: this story will never ends

German approach:
https://www.bild.de/politik/inland/p...2178.bild.html
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Old 22.01.2021, 14:13
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Our GP is putting OH on list to be vaccinated on his 75th BD.
He’ll be able to register himself via the cantonal website once he’s 75.
They may even have changed the criteria before then if they have already vaccinated all the over 75s who want it.

https://vaccination.ne.ch/RAPv4Web/g...P=PandemieFree

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Old 22.01.2021, 14:18
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Our GP is putting OH on list to be vaccinated on his 75th BD.
Isn't he 2 months off? You would have thought they'd get to 70 plus people by then??? At least there's a date in the diary.
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Old 22.01.2021, 14:37
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Re: Coronavirus

Todays published numbers are 2156 out of 26 k tests

92 hospitalisations
62 death

https://www.covid19.admin.ch/en/overview

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Todays published numbers are 2396 out of 25 k tests

139 hospitalisations
66 death
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Todays published numbers are 2205 out of 28 k tests

93 hospitalisations
47 death
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Old 22.01.2021, 14:49
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Isn't he 2 months off? You would have thought they'd get to 70 plus people by then??? At least there's a date in the diary.
Yes, she will look for any opportunity to do it before 16.03- but at least we know he can be vaccinated then. Yes, Belgianmum, he would be able to apply on line from the 16.03- but it is better to do it in advance so it can be done on the day or very soon after. We have cancelled our trip to England to see grandchildren at last, planned for end of March- but it is, what it is.
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Old 22.01.2021, 15:56
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The first people vaccinated should be receiving their second doses around now so there certainly won’t be many people who’ve had two so far.
We get ours on Tuesday having had the first shot on December 29th.

Without a timeline of delivery it’s not really helpful at all in my opinion other than to see the distribution of vaccines to the different cantons.
Glad you'll be getting your second dose soon. My mother-in-law is scheduled to receive her second dose on February 4th.

I just hope to god that these vaccines prove to have some protection against these new mutations. I was reading a bit earlier about how the current vaccines work and then found myself thinking about what Dr. Fauci said in the press conference yesterday and how the virus latches on to our ACE-2 receptors (with the new mutations latching on more easily, thus making them more dangerous). I am clearly not an immunologist, etc., but I can't help but think that, apart from the vaccines, they really need to consider trying to get some angiotensin receptor blockers out there.
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Glad you'll be getting your second dose soon. My mother-in-law is scheduled to receive her second dose on February 4th.

I just hope to god that these vaccines prove to have some protection against these new mutations. I was reading a bit earlier about how the current vaccines work and then found myself thinking about what Dr. Fauci said in the press conference yesterday and how the virus latches on to our ACE-2 receptors (with the new mutations latching on more easily, thus making them more dangerous). I am clearly not an immunologist, etc., but I can't help but think that, apart from the vaccines, they really need to consider trying to get some angiotensin receptor blockers out there.
That's good thinking, Pancakes, but paradoxically the opposite is probably true: it is believed that AIIRAs (ARBs) and ACE-inhibitors may actually increase the risk of contracting COVID-19 and resulting more severe disease outcomes. However, the linked study (and several others) concludes to hat "there is low-certainty evidence that patients on long-term therapy with ACE inhibitors or ARBs are not at higher risk of poor outcomes from COVID-19", which is promising, but there's certainly no evidence of any benefit (with respect to COVID-19) from renin-angiotensin system medications.

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Old 22.01.2021, 17:02
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Glad you'll be getting your second dose soon. My mother-in-law is scheduled to receive her second dose on February 4th.

I am clearly not an immunologist, etc., but I can't help but think that, apart from the vaccines, they really need to consider trying to get some angiotensin receptor blockers out there.
It will be nice to have had the second dose and feel a bit more relaxed about things, especially for my husband who has a tendency towards anxiety.
Not that there’s anywhere really to go.

We had three major milestones in this year (big birthday for OH and son and big wedding anniversary for us) and all out planned celebrations went out of the window. We also have twin grandsons in the UK that we have yet to see as well as the kids and other grandchildren there plus other family members there that we haven’t seen in over a year.
We’re not making any plans to go over there before summer because realistically I don’t think it will really be feasible before then.


Angiotensin receptor blockers are widely available as are ACE inhibitors but they are primarily used to reduce blood pressure.
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Old 22.01.2021, 17:44
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It seems Switzerland and CZ (Musicchick) are on Mrs Merkel's naughty stair.
I am not a president but thank you.

They've been on a naughty stair of everyone since about 1526, so old news. Actually 1414, when they burned Jan Hus alive in Constanz. Just in case that anyone else wants to mention "a naughty stair".

More Eastern European Front facts: CZ schools will reopen only when the number of Covid hospitalized patients reduce (it is still high, 6 131 today). Pirates have passed their salary increase proposal for all teachers to become 130% of the average salary in the country. I am starting to like them. Teachers together with medical staff have obtained the "at risk" category and are getting vaxed earlier than others. Well, it is planned. Not enough vax for anyone, as it is.

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Emerging evidence suggests new coronavirus variant could be problematic for vaccines
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/21/h...nes/index.html
Fauci said vaccines are gonna work anyway, as they have a good safety margin above the threshold when they lose the efficacy completely. Particularly he mentioned 80% (number from the skies) for mRNA vaccines.

https://deadline.com/2021/01/dr-fauc...us-1234677911/

The point is, vaccines produce many more and perhaps bigger variety of antibodies, and even if only some of them are attaching to the virus, it is still enough to deactivate it. Besides, the percentage numbers we are talking about are complete absence of infection. It will still be nearly 100% effective against severe outcome (hospitalizations and deaths).

I don't understand the panic in the media. In the worst case scenario, vaccines will still prevent hospitalizations and deaths. Thus, we will be able to enjoy lives and quite a big degree of normality, even if we might need to quarantine or get a mild fever sometimes.
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