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I regularly get asked for directions in German, usually when I'm laden down with food shopping, which is a fair indication that you're not a tourist. 25yrs ago, whilst in Austria, I was regularly asked if I'm Dutch because apparently, I speak German with a Dutch accent. I still get that question occasionally in Switzerland.
It happened to us in another country we were visiting, not in Switzerland. People imagine they can identify the place you're coming from based on your looks, accent or both, but in my experience few of them are actually able to do that. We're all semi-ignorant cosmopolitans, knowing a little about everything. Not quite enough.

Here I'm addressed in Swiss German, even if I make it clear I'm gonna use High German. For some reason they assume I understand. It's such a dam' pressure.
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Old 30.01.2020, 15:28
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I disagree, then again living around Zürich I don't see all that many swiss people.
Very, very good point.

I’ll be brutally honest as someone who’s been living around Zurich since ‘87.
Yes, it’s really easy to spot non-Swiss in Zurich. Mostly you can even narrow it down to the exact nationality - but there are many, many factors in play, not only the clothes. It’s the bodily stance, the line of the mouth, the interpersonal look, way of walking, tone of talking etc. etc. etc. You can say this about many countries or cities.

It’s also easily, easily possible to spot “real” Swiss (as I think the OP is referring to) on travels to countries outside of Switzerland.
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Old 30.01.2020, 15:39
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It’s also easily, easily possible to spot “real” Swiss (as I think the OP is referring to) on travels to countries outside of Switzerland.
It's the way they light their cigars using 1000CHF notes that gives them away.
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So is the general consensus that, actually you can tell just by looking?
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Not mentioning that "jogging pants" are the new slacks these days. Everyone seems to wear them.



Jogging pants.....Mufflers you mean, see the lips move but no noise
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So is the general consensus that, actually you can tell just by looking?
Yes, you can always tell by looking. Another issue is guessing right
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It's the way they light their cigars using 1000CHF notes that gives them away.
No, it’s not that at all. In-fact the opposite.

In-case you haven’t noticed, most Swiss do not live in a decadent way, even if some (a minority) might be rich (not every Swiss is Roger Federer at all).

Those that do live that way I would even go as far as to say, are not of the OPs typically Swiss origin.
And of course the rest of us / them (dual nationality) are just „Swiss“.
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It's the way they light their cigars using 1000CHF notes that gives them away.
No. But there is such a thing as discrete behavior of wealthy people/or society, rather. As un pc as it sounds...still.
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Re: Sniffing out a " non-swiss"?

Well there is no doubt differences. Australian came from Brits. And they simply look different from the Teutonics/Swiss. I think the Teutonics have more a square head. Brits and Aussies are more rounded!
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No. But there is such a thing as discrete behavior of wealthy people/or society, rather. As un pc as it sounds...still.
I don’t think that many Swiss people would describe themselves as rich.
Compare the average Zurich income to the average Zurich apartment rental costs.

Have no idea why anyone would generally paint the brush over Swiss people as being „rich“. Maybe from too many Roger Federer Credit Suisse adverts passing through the airport?

Standard of living and „rich“ enough to burn money are two very different things
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Well there is no doubt differences. Australian came from Brits. And they simply look different from the Teutonics/Swiss. I think the Teutonics have more a square head. Brits and Aussies are more rounded!
So, reading between the lines dear OP, you are afraid that you have an over-pronounced „Teutonic“ head?
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I don’t think that many Swiss people would describe themselves as rich.
Compare the average Zurich income to the average Zurich apartment rental costs.

Have no idea why anyone would generally paint the brush over Swiss people as being „rich“. Maybe from too many Roger Federer Credit Suisse adverts passing through the airport?

Standard of living and „rich“ enough to burn money are two very different things
I don't think people would describe themselves as rich either.

If we want to call it decent standard of living, we can. Still, it was about discrete behavior (as opposed to attracting attention), not about labeling them.
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Well there is no doubt differences. Australian came from Brits. And they simply look different from the Teutonics/Swiss. I think the Teutonics have more a square head. Brits and Aussies are more rounded!
Although here are a significant number of republicans in Australia, there are still a significant number of royalists who would never consider themselves roundheads.
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If we want to call it decent standard of living, we can. Still, it was about discrete behavior (as opposed to attracting attention), not about labeling them.
I think you mean "discreet" behaviour. "Discrete" behaviour would, by definition, attract attention.
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So, reading between the lines dear OP, you are afraid that you have an over-pronounced „Teutonic“ head?
My great grandfather is German.
It must be that " f you" attitude that they notice. Its a clear aussie trait!
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My great grandfather is German.
Is he still alive?
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Re: Sniffing out a " non-swiss"?

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If dad is 1.90 meters tall, mum 1.85, the kids over 2 meters, yes, you can see they are Dutch
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If dad is 1.90 meters tall, mum 1.85, the kids over 2 meters, yes, you can see they are Dutch
I think the women are not that all. I know three couples (actually one of them is a mixed couple) and only one of the men is indeed very tall, but the rest of them are reasonably tall. If I had to assign them a nationality in a crowd...hmm, I don't know. But you're Dutch and maybe are very apt at this.
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