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Sniffing out a " non-swiss"?

Somehow I think the born here Swiss ( more the second and onwards generation ) somehow percieve that one is not a " born Swiss " simply on a non- verbal perception level even before one opens one mouth. I'm referring more to white Caucasian "non Swiss." I think its that they hold themselves ( posture,facial expressions etc) differently. ( culture oriented ) And I don't think we smell differently
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Somehow I think the born here Swiss ( more the second and onwards generation ) somehow perceive that one is not a " born Swiss " simply on a non- verbal perception level even before one opens one mouth. I'm referring more to white Caucasian "non Swiss." I think its that they hold themselves ( posture,facial expressions etc) differently. ( culture oriented )
If you are noticing all the posture, facial expression, skin colour thing, wouldn't that just be you and your own perception, though? How do you know what other people perceive to be Swiss?
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If you are noticing all the posture, facial expression, skin colour thing, wouldn't that just be you and your own perception, though? How do you know what other people perceive to be Swiss?
Well some Swiss have started off in English even though I had not said a word.
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Well some Swiss have started off in English even though I had not said a word.
With clothing it's easy to spot the people coming from far away. Pants, shoes, jackets, etc. For example, I've noticed that the shirts here have the last 2 buttons closer to the collar compared to the shirts from the other side of the Atlantic. What about ON shoes?
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With clothing it's easy to spot the people coming from far away. Pants, shoes, jackets, etc. For example, I've noticed that the shirts here have the last 2 buttons closer to the collar compared to the shirts from the other side of the Atlantic. What about ON shoes?

I only wear clothes bought in Zurich. Nothing special.
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Just ask them what gave it away and work on it to improve yourself :P

I myself really never have run into this.
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Being you can't help too much
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Re: Sniffing out a " non-swiss"?

Possibly wearing a backpack could contribute to it. But I think its just this " non-verbal" communication
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Well some Swiss have started off in English even though I had not said a word.
On a second thought....sometimes the whole country feels like a small town. The locals will randomly encounter an acquaintance almost anywhere they go (bar, restaurant, gemeindesaal, carwash). If you don't say gruezi to anyone, auslander!

I was happy the first time I could say gruezi mitenand to the people in a restaurant close to home because I truly have met them before, not because of being polite to strangers. In one of these places where everyone knows everyone, not greeting anyone is the giveaway.
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Re: Sniffing out a " non-swiss"?

While I'm driving people speak to - or rather shout at - me the whole time in English, I have no idea why. Maybe they should concentrate on driving on the correct side of the road like me...
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I only wear clothes bought in Zurich. Nothing special.
I'm blond with blue eyes. People always speak to me initially in Swiss German despite my George at Asda clothes often being a little more colourful than many Swiss stores sell.
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Re: Sniffing out a " non-swiss"?

I am blonde and blue eyed too and people speak to me in Hoch Deutch, in suisse romandie. I don't always wear braids.

So I don't know what they sniff. Heidi probably.
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I only wear clothes bought in Zurich. Nothing special.
Only furriners buy Swiss clothes.

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I am blonde and blue eyed too and people speak to me in Hoch Deutsch, in suisse romandie. I don't always wear braids.

So I don't know what they sniff. Heidi probably.
Crikey, you must have found some real exceptions that prove your rule...

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People I know in German part of Switzerland speak French very well. I cannot say the same about Romands speaking German. There might be historically embedded unwillingness, or the way it was introduced here, who knows. But the French level of my friends in German CH is impressive. Maybe French is just so...likeable.
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It must be the Heidi look.

Here, I need to find a new, non Heidi look. This is charming. I hope I can walk very fast in it.



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I only wear clothes bought in Zurich. Nothing special.
If I buy a Hawaii shirt in Frobisher bay . does that make me Hawaiian ?
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Somehow I think the born here Swiss ( more the second and onwards generation ) somehow percieve that one is not a " born Swiss " simply on a non- verbal perception level even before one opens one mouth. I'm referring more to white Caucasian "non Swiss." I think its that they hold themselves ( posture,facial expressions etc) differently. ( culture oriented ) And I don't think we smell differently
That is absolutely amazing actually! This ability the born here Swiss have according to you. I - not a born here but born Swiss - am not able to do that. Maybe it is an ability the born here Swiss bought from their ancestors (the first generation)?

Or maybe people just think "this guy can't be real" when they meet you and they don't mean the Swiss bit?

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Only furriners buy Swiss clothes.

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I'm actually wondering if there is such a thing. Homemade, maybe?
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That is absolutely amazing actually! This ability the born here Swiss have according to you. I - not a born here but born Swiss - am not able to do that. Maybe it is an ability the born here Swiss bought from their ancestors (the first generation)?

Or maybe people just think "this guy can't be real" when they meet you and they don't mean the Swiss bit?


I'm actually wondering if there is such a thing. Homemade, maybe?
Home made by me, in Switzerland? Or by a Swiss?
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Home made by me, in Switzerland? Or by a Swiss?
Home made by you.

To my surprise, I found an article (sorry German) that says there is in fact a handful of clothing-producers in Switzerland. But none of the names I have ever heard of.

Not caring much about fashion and clothes - I'm a jeans girl - I wouldn't be willing to pay their price, I guess.
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Home made by you.

To my surprise, I found an article (sorry German) that says there is in fact a handful of clothing-producers in Switzerland. But none of the names I have ever heard of.

Not caring much about fashion and clothes - I'm a jeans girl - I wouldn't be willing to pay their price, I guess.
Me neither, that why I make them. Skirts, dresses..I avoid jeans. I think it has been drilled into us at uni.

I do have a label but don't sell for money. Which drives my start-up friends nuts
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