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Re: Help Me Love Winter and Avoid Darkness/Depression

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Things I like about Winter in CH:
. Views of Mountains Standout with Snow on them.
. Winter Walks
. Full Moon Nights if Clear Sky with Light bouncing off snow

(P.S. I'm not a skier)

Given the 3 points, you listed and if you intend to stay around I would say try to pick some snow sport? It can be skiing or snowboarding (for the Amazing views), but there is also Nordic skiing (you can do it in the evenings at some places with the full moon) or snowshoe hiking (winter walks).
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Old 02.02.2020, 21:28
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Take away the clouds and the wind and those SHIT jet trails in Zurich then you have a really warm perfect sunny 20 degree day.

Last year in the last 2 weeks of February a really strong Azonen High took control over Europe. Hopefully it repats itself this year
What can I say? Prognosis for tomorrow is 15C
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Hi OP,

I lived in Amsterdam and can relate to your "winter blues". I suggest you explore nature. If you can, go to a mountain and hike and feel/experience the sun which is tough to do in Zurich some days.

Venturing outside and experiencing the natural beauty of this country has done wonders for me. I am constantly reminded how lucky I am to experience such an amazing landscape/topography.

My first few months were not easy here but when I joined a hiking group, things became easier. My OH walks home from work from Allstetten to our place in Zurich and his Swiss colleagues thinks he is nuts!

That said, he gets to explore various routes in Zurich and decompress before he arrives home. I should note that his colleagues are complete mountain biking enthusiasts! I find it funny that they think walking home is too laborious when they routinely bike those insanely crazy mountain trails. To each their own I guess
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Things looked pretty good to me last week after just a 2 hour train ride from Zurich to Arosa (and the trains are on time here .
Arrived before Iíd even finished my WiFi surfing.

Then went for a wonderful 5 hour walk in the snow, followed by wine in the sun.
Wow! Beautiful.
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Old 02.02.2020, 22:01
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This is all you got to do:
Buy jeans with lots of holes in em.
Wear sneakers without any socks.
Get a stylish hooded sweatshirt
Pretend to be a teenager.
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This is all you got to do:
Buy jeans with lots of holes in em.
Wear sneakers without any socks.
Get a stylish hooded sweatshirt
Pretend to be a teenager.
But Manor is closed, so what will you do now?
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Old 02.02.2020, 22:38
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But Manor is closed, so what will you do now?
Read a book? Watch a movie? What a perfect weather for enjoying this type of things.
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But Manor is closed, so what will you do now?

Head to C&A


Oh yes! forgot to mention the shades. Makes all the difference.
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Re: Help Me Love Winter and Avoid Darkness/Depression

This winter has been the easiest I have encountered in Europe...worryingly so.

However, despite the warmer temps, less snow and sunnier days - the days are significantly shorter and there is less opportunity to spend time in nature. I am eagerly awaiting the return of Spring despite the mild winter. This year, in order to help, I've been keeping myself busy in my home playing guitar, cooking elaborate recipes from my cookbook collection and reading ravenously. It is quite easy to zone out during the winter months, but keeping my mind sharp & healthy has helped significantly. For physical activity, I have been attending frequent yoga classes (I also don't voluntarily choose to fly down snowy mountains).
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For physical activity, I have been attending frequent yoga classes (I also don't voluntarily choose to fly down snowy mountains).
It's magic.

(Thank you to those who sent me the avalanche warning yesterday.)
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It's magic.
I really wish I could be into it, especially since I'm so sporty - I find the entire process entirely cumbersome.

Fight to get through the train station with ski gear early in the AM (first have to buy or rent expensive ski gear and clothes), fight to find a hotel near the lifts, fight to get on the lifts, fly down the mountain knowingly at risk of severely broken bones, do it all over again.
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Re: Help Me Love Winter and Avoid Darkness/Depression

The gym is great. Sometimes boring but if I don't go for 2 weeks I feel worse later, so it's like bad tasting medicine

"Invest in cozy warm clothing so don't care about cold." Being a bit cynic, is there other way to leave the house? There's lot of chance to be fashionable indoors, but when going outdoors all the photos are with the same waterproof pants, vest and boots

"Eat more winter-helping foods that give me more energy in cold ..... root vegetables, potatoes, meats, some starches, warm drinks such as herbal teas, etc." Where's the cheese? The locals know a thing or two about surviving winter. Devouring fatty cheese is one of them.

PS. last Friday and Saturday morning I drove the car with the roof down. This is not a normal Swiss winter (my 7th one), it was cabrio weather, a few more degrees and it would have been barbecue weather.
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Re: Help Me Love Winter and Avoid Darkness/Depression

Thanks guys with thoughts.

I find when I am prepared with my ideas ahead of time, then I can get into gear more quickly when I'm starting to feel my dark/indoor/cold getting too out of balance for my needs.

If you have any more practical tips of specific things you actually do, please feel free to add more ..... I'm always surprised how I get ideas that sound obvious but I never thought of.


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EF makes me laugh.

I often start a post thinking "Now surely this time I am submitting a completely innocuous topic that people don't need to fight, criticize and groan about".

Then, of course, like clockwork, some obscure negative tangent spirals.

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Re: Help Me Love Winter and Avoid Darkness/Depression

The Zurich winter grey is a tough one for sure. I usually try to split it in half with a couple weeks in the Caribbean on the beach. Unfortunately that didn't work out this year

That being said, ZŁrich has some great outdoor Ice Rinks, which operate October to March. Not many countries in the world can consistently make outdoor ice rinks in this climate.

(Ice hockey is an exciting and exhilarating sport!)
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Thanks guys with thoughts.

I find when I am prepared with my ideas ahead of time, then I can get into gear more quickly when I'm starting to feel my dark/indoor/cold getting too out of balance for my needs.

If you have any more practical tips of specific things you actually do, please feel free to add more ..... I'm always surprised how I get ideas that sound obvious but I never thought of.

Yes, we all live in a country that has itís wonderful as well as itís more inhospitable sides.

Itís important to find at least humor and understanding within such a community.
Especially to get us through the winter (although this year has been record breakingly kind - itís usually awful).
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The Zurich winter grey is a tough one for sure. I usually try to split it in half with a couple weeks in the Caribbean on the beach. Unfortunately that didn't work out this year

That being said, ZŁrich has some great outdoor Ice Rinks, which operate October to March. Not many countries in the world can consistently make outdoor ice rinks in this climate.

(Ice hockey is an exciting and exhilarating sport!)
It explains why people would rather be at work in winter sitting in their stuffy offices. The Swiss love working!
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EF makes me laugh.

I often start a post thinking "Now surely this time I am submitting a completely innocuous topic that people don't need to fight, criticize and groan about".

Then, of course, like clockwork, some obscure negative tangent spirals.

Look at post 5 again carefully....!
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The current winter may be laughable when compared to others, but what if someone was already jaded before it?

We're humans that go through ups and downs. Our strength is variable and it depends on such things as food, rest, socialization, emotional health, etc. We're not steel beams with a fixed and measured load capacity. Believing that if you survived X thing once, you'll make it fine later in the future it's comforting, but not true. We live, improve and decay through time.
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The current winter may be laughable when compared to others, but what if someone was already jaded before it?

We're humans that go through ups and downs. Our strength is variable and it depends on such things as food, rest, socialization, emotional health, etc. We're not steel beams with a fixed and measured load capacity.
It took me years of experiencing the grayness of the Zurich weather to realise how to combat it well. Got it down to a tee finally, and my dream would be to win the lotto and set-up home around 69 degrees north, in Norway. But with a bolt-hole for summer. Having already experienced the miserable winters here in Switzerland, I’m ready for anything tbh.
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