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5g and Swiss paranoia, or is it?

i have perfectly normal Swiss friends but when it comes to 5g aka
cinq g , the subject turns to brain frying conspiracies and philosophical discussions on tech invasion. aside from putting a 3g phone next to an egg 24/7 for 8 years ( it gets cooked) i cant find anything that would spur this type of angst . 5g wtf.
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i have perfectly normal Swiss friends but when it comes to 5g aka
cinq g , the subject turns to brain frying conspiracies and philosophical discussions on tech invasion. aside from putting a 3g phone next to an egg 24/7 for 8 years ( it gets cooked) i cant find anything that would spur this type of angst . 5g wtf.
Is it that this seems to be an "issue" in the French part and not in the German one? So far I've seen very little coverage around here, admittedly I follow mainly the free daily newspaper, but still.
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Old 06.02.2020, 19:08
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Re: 5g and Swiss paranoia, or is it?

At the local pharmacy there is an anti-5g petition to sign if so inclined (which of course I don't), right next to the homeopathic crap.

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Is it that this seems to be an "issue" in the French part and not in the German one? So far I've seen very little coverage around here, admittedly I follow mainly the free daily newspaper, but still.
good point about the french side, its apparent
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Old 06.02.2020, 19:23
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i have perfectly normal Swiss friends but when it comes to 5g aka
cinq g , the subject turns to brain frying conspiracies and philosophical discussions on tech invasion. aside from putting a 3g phone next to an egg 24/7 for 8 years ( it gets cooked) i cant find anything that would spur this type of angst . 5g wtf.
That explains the angst-ridden article I read recently about how children sleep with their phones next to the bed. Give them 8 years and they're hard boiled.
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That explains the angst-ridden article I read recently about how children sleep with their phones next to the bed. Give them 8 years and they're hard boiled.
loll!! ... if only there was a way to stop those sometimes self destructive young uns. but you've keyed on a valid point.. it used to be rock stars and race car idols on posters. . now its self and whatever configuration of social media influencers. on tap 24/7
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Re: 5g and Swiss paranoia, or is it?

Just to put things into perspective... number of 5G antennas in Europe per country

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Re: 5g and Swiss paranoia, or is it?

5g is a reality , so will 6g and whatever, Switzerland is ridiculously small so infrastructure investment is small. the thing is no one talks about is upgrades from 4g to 5g... thats the part that pisses off the US.. they are 5 years behind.. the upgrade from 4g to 5g is cost effective as it uses existing 4g infrastructure. .its a sell, brain frying or not.
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Re: 5g and Swiss paranoia, or is it?

Here in my French part the biggest concern seems to be around the placement of new antennas ..
Not so much "what they do to you" but just that people don't want new structures popping up..
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Re: 5g and Swiss paranoia, or is it?

I've got a 5G router on loan as a consumer service. The 5g router is smaller than my wired router - I could even carry it around in my pocket, so kind of very fast mobile connection. Works fine - but I just don't need speed above 4g.

The reason for 5g AIUI, is that it gives more capacity and flexibility for the suppleir.

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loll!! ... if only there was a way to stop those sometimes self destructive young uns.
Change the wifi password, or surgically remove their phones from them. Or don't buy them one in the first place.
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5g is a reality , so will 6g and whatever, Switzerland is ridiculously small so infrastructure investment is small. the thing is no one talks about is upgrades from 4g to 5g... thats the part that pisses off the US.. they are 5 years behind.. the upgrade from 4g to 5g is cost effective as it uses existing 4g infrastructure. .its a sell, brain frying or not.
On the contrary, due to the terrain, infrastructure here is very expensive.

In the US, you could cover the surface with a couple FM transmitters, currently there are 170 FM transmitting stations (down from 500+ 30 years ago)

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Re: 5g and Swiss paranoia, or is it?

Antennas drive a lot of NIMBY behaviour because people think it decreases the value of their house/terrain (either due to ugliness or because they think people is afraid). These NIMBYs then enter in some kind of unholy alliance with conspiracy theorists who just love the opportunity to spread their ignorance, even if those houseowners normally they would not make it political but just oppose through the normal ways.
You get this in several locations and all of a sudden you have a facebook group, marches and signature being collected and they look bigger than they are.
I think most people don't give a crap and don't know much about it anyway, but of course they're not doing street protests with "I don't care stop" slogans which can lead to the perception that opposition to 5G is wide spread.
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Re: 5g and Swiss paranoia, or is it?

"5G is dangerous" say people with a 4G phone inside their pockets - and admittedly not knowing the difference between the two.
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"5G is dangerous" say people with a 4G phone inside their pockets - and admittedly not knowing the difference between the two.
what are they cooking? eggs?
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Re: 5g and Swiss paranoia, or is it?

On the back of this, I can't wait to play my vr titles on the cloud at 5k : now that's brain fry!!!
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Re: 5g and Swiss paranoia, or is it?

News just in (I can't believe it, not many sources cited) 5G suspended in CH:
https://www.infowars.com/switzerland...alth-concerns/
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News just in (I can't believe it, not many sources cited) 5G suspended in CH:
https://www.infowars.com/switzerland...alth-concerns/
Fake news, but a lot of sites love to copy&paste it due to the subject, some days ago the government already denied this but nobody is interested in that, since panic and fear mongering sells better.

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"Switzerland’s environmental agency has denied calling a halt to the switching on of 5G over health concerns.

Updated, 2.49pm, 14 February 2020: Since the original publication of the story in the Financial Times, the Swiss Federal Office for the Environment has denied plans for a blanket ban on 5G in Switzerland. The agency said it had written to the country’s cantons about the placement of 5G equipment, but the assertion that previous reports had made about halting 5G entirely were “misleading”."
https://www.siliconrepublic.com/comm...ealth-concerns
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Re: 5g and Swiss paranoia, or is it?

They never thought twice a long time ago about using asbestos in the home. Now they know its a poison and its forbidden. The same with 5G. It will really cause alot of damage!
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Re: 5g and Swiss paranoia, or is it?

5g is officially suspended, yawn. Until its proven No Brains will fry..yawn some more...
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