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Old 08.02.2020, 22:21
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Re: Is renting really that expensive?

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About grocery shopping in Germany...how much of a hassle is it really if you live near the border? Can you cross the border using public transportation, carrying shopping bags with you? I heard that you need to show the receipt to prove that certain items are not bought in excess?
Yes, you can travel by train from Switzerland to the main German shopping towns.

Yes, the customs officers do random checks on bags and receipts. There are limits of importing certain types of foods and other goods, and if you exceed those you can be charged and extra fee by the customs officers.

Personally, I think that, to start with, it's not worth focussing so much on shopping in Germany. Yes, it is possible, and yes, some people say that it saves a lot of money. This is less the case, though, than it used to be, since some lower-prices supermarkets (from Germany) now also have branches in Switzerland.

In any case, the kinds of low-rent properties you're looking at will not be right next to the border, but further out into the country. That means that travelling to Germany to shop will become a time-consuming task, and one has to factor in the train ticket, etc.

Since you're at the beginning of learning about how it all works, I think you'd probably gain more of the overall picture by reading through some of the threads to which 3Wishes and I referred you. They can give you - from a number of different sides - a strong, general introduction, probably much more effectively than if you ask individual questions here. I'm not saying don't post, just that you will get ahead faster if you read up some of what has already been posted.
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In any case, the kinds of low-rent properties you're looking at will not be right next to the border, but further out into the country. That means that travelling to Germany to shop will become a time-consuming task, and one has to factor in the train ticket, etc.
There are places in Kanton Aargau which are very close to the German border and rents can be very reasonable.
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I currently live in northern Europe, but I'm considering moving to Switzerland. I run my own business, and what I'm most worried about is the extremely high living costs that everyone seems to mention about Switzerland.


However, I've done some searches for rental apartments in the northern parts of Switzerland. I was able to find many small (studio) apartments in the canton of Schaffhausen that had a monthly rent of about 700-800 CHF. That seems very reasonable and actually less expensive than what renting costs in my country.


Maybe there is something I'm missing here? Is, for example, Schaffhausen somehow a bad area to live in? I would imagine that rent is not much more expensive in other cantons (with the exception of larger cities such as Zurich, Geneva, etc.)?
If you want to come here and have so many thoughts about money etc then its far better to stay where you are
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If you want to come here and have so many thoughts about money etc then its far better to stay where you are
Agreed, CH is a great place to live if you have money or the kind of job that allows you to not to think about money. For all others CH can be a cold place, it can be done but itīs an everlasting uphill struggle.
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Re: Is renting really that expensive?

Assuming you live out in the sticks you also need to factor in cost for public transport; 3'700 CHF/year.

And if you want to do more than work, eat and sleep you need to know that everything is really expensive compared to what you are used to; eating out, playing tennis or golf, skiing, a drink, going to a disco....
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There are places in Kanton Aargau which are very close to the German border and rents can be very reasonable.
OP just needs to make sure to wear white socks all the time so he fits in better with the locals, right?

Actually I have no idea but it seems to be a running joke here on EF so it must be true...
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