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Perhaps not her personally, but the way the community has been talked about in general here. As something different, others.
As I said - not everyone volunteers to be selected and put on a spot, even if for educational purposes. Some need privacy and dignity it comes with.
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As I said - not everyone volunteers to be selected and put on a spot, even if for educational purposes. Some need privacy and dignity it comes with.
Then she wouldn't have mentioned she's gay or participated in the discussion at all, no?

I don't think OP's intention was to put anyone on a spot, he merely expressed his hope that, for the sake of his own daughter, some things are going to change.
It's maybe more "dignified" to pretend there are no problems in this area, but that won't change the status quo.

Anyway, it's really difficult to understand how zurirollt draws her conclusions, so I won't pretend I do. She's perfectly entitled to withdraw from the forum or whatever, if she so desires.

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Old 13.02.2020, 12:57
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--- zurirollt ....She's perfect entitled to withdraw from the forum or whatever, if she so desires.
Yes. But I still hope she doesn't leave.
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Old 13.02.2020, 13:14
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Yes. But I still hope she doesn't leave.
Same here but it's not for us to decide..
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These are rather recent discussions, it wasn't even a "theme" until relatively recently.
Perhaps it was the final straw? It doesn't really make it better in any case...
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Old 13.02.2020, 13:28
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I don't think OP's intention was to put anyone on a spot, he merely expressed his hope that, for the sake of his own daughter, some things are going to change.
It's maybe more "dignified" to pretend there are no problems in this area, but that won't change the status quo.

Anyway, it's really difficult to understand how zurirollt draws her conclusions, so I won't pretend I do. She's perfectly entitled to withdraw from the forum or whatever, if she so desires.
Exactly. It's not as if we can't discuss anything in case it's too close to the heart of particular members. If a topic is then they just need to avoid reading it. Most topics have pretty clear titles. This one certainly does.
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Old 13.02.2020, 13:58
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Exactly. It's not as if we can't discuss anything in case it's too close to the heart of particular members. If a topic is then they just need to avoid reading it. Most topics have pretty clear titles. This one certainly does.
This. Nobody is obliged to read discussion that they are not comfortable with nor reveal their sexual orientation.
It is a discussion forum and we all probably have topics that we’d prefer not to read about nor discuss and we simply ignore them.
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Old 13.02.2020, 14:08
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Total side track, but I just did the test and got ENFP-A / ENFP-T. Good fit? Who knows... That's the thing with subject led tests as opposed to observer led tests. When the subject provides all the answers, there's always a subconscious element of how we would like to be perceived.

The referendum result on Sunday is just a baby step forward in Switzerland's legal progress. Other countries are further down the track and many lag far behind, but it's still progress. Societal acceptance of homosexuality has fluctuated throughout history from the Sacred Band of Thebes which actively encouraged it, to the Crusades to the present day. Our job is to make sure that there isn't a step backwards from this. It's got to be continuous progress from here on.

From my own perspective, it shocks me a little that we still need to have this conversation when my cousin and her wife have been very happily married for over 15yrs and I've been having late night chats with the first of my friends who's divorcing his husband.
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Total side track, but I just did the test and got ENFP-A / ENFP-T. Good fit? Who knows... That's the thing with subject led tests as opposed to observer led tests. When the subject provides all the answers, there's always a subconscious element of how we would like to be perceived.
Especially when folk might have read the personality descriptors before taking the test.
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Total side track, but I just did the test and got ENFP-A / ENFP-T. Good fit? Who knows... That's the thing with subject led tests as opposed to observer led tests. When the subject provides all the answers, there's always a subconscious element of how we would like to be perceived.
Do it genuinely and a few times, it should come to the same type. It is pretty accurate.
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Especially when folk might have read the personality descriptors before taking the test.
Never thought of that. D'oh!
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Never thought of that. D'oh!
I usually come out as INFJ and it's mostly a good fit, it relates to the Facet 5 profile stuff I've done too. It's interesting, especially when considering the make up of effective teams.
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Total side track, but I just did the test and got ENFP-A / ENFP-T. Good fit? Who knows... That's the thing with subject led tests as opposed to observer led tests. When the subject provides all the answers, there's always a subconscious element of how we would like to be perceived.
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It doesn't seem very accurate to me (not in your case btw, in general) and I don't take these tests too seriously tbh.
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It doesn't seem very accurate to me (not in your case btw, in general) and I don't take these tests too seriously tbh.


And where do ENFP-A / ENFP-T and INFJ fit on the sexual orientation spectrum?
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And where do ENFP-A / ENFP-T and INFJ fit on the sexual orientation spectrum?
Good question. I have no idea.
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I usually come out as INFJ and it's mostly a good fit, it relates to the Facet 5 profile stuff I've done too. It's interesting, especially when considering the make up of effective teams.
I’m INFJ-T, and I must say it’s pretty accurate in my case!
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Mélusine! You're still on this forum???
Yeah! I lurk more than I post, but I read most threads!
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And where do ENFP-A / ENFP-T and INFJ fit on the sexual orientation spectrum?
Anywhere they damn well please, I hope
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And where do ENFP-A / ENFP-T and INFJ fit on the sexual orientation spectrum?
It's only a matter of time. Once the acronyms got past LGBTQ+, I got confused and tended to wander down the MG BGT route. My head's already stuffed to the brim with acronyms for airlines, countries, airports and GAL entries. There's precious little room left in the owd noggin for any more acronyms. I do try to keep up with it all, but I was reading about aromantics the other day....
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